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Dr Hfuhruhurr September 25th 07 02:07 PM

Best tv for pc resolution
 
On 24 Sep, 20:39, Colin Stamp wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:43:57 -0000, wrote:
I want to purchase a new lcd tv which will be connected to a pc as
well as my sky+. I want a 1080p resolution tv, but I also want to get
the maximum resolution use from the connected pc. Those tv's that I
have looked at so far allow a max res from pc input of 1024x768. Is
this the best I can expect ?


TIA


I think it's the PC that's your problem, not the TV. The 15-pin
analogue VGA connector that's standard on PCs isn't really capable of
doing 1080p resolution properly.


Unfortunately this is totally untrue.

You can get PC graphics cards with
DVI or even HDMI outputs, so you won't need to use the TV's ropey "PC"
input. Then you should be able to drive the TV to its full resolution
even if it quotes a lower value for PCs.


No you won't.

Make sure you get a card that supports the TVs native resolution and a
TV with enough inputs, so you can still plug in your DVD player,
decoder etc. as well as the PC.


Not necessary if you use 'powerstrip'

Incidentally, If you wan't to be able to read the text at 1080p,
you'll need to sit really close, or get a really big TV. Our 32 inch
TV is only 720p and, from a "normal" TV viewing distance, the text is
borderline unreadable.


Nothing to do with how close you sit. Text is unreadable on your 32"
telly because its only 720.

Cheers,

Colin.


Doc


Roderick Stewart September 25th 07 03:22 PM

Best tv for pc resolution
 
In article . com, Dr
Hfuhruhurr wrote:
I think it's the PC that's your problem, not the TV. The 15-pin
analogue VGA connector that's standard on PCs isn't really capable of
doing 1080p resolution properly.


Unfortunately this is totally untrue.


Agreed. My PC monitor is 1600 x 1200 and has both the standard 15-pin VGA
analogue input and a digital input. I've been perfectly happy with it
connected via 15-pin analogue, but the graphic card on my most recent
computer (built this year) has both types of output, giving me the
opportunity to try both, so just out of curiosity, I did. I can't see any
difference at all.

Rod.


Paul D.Smith September 25th 07 03:33 PM

Best tv for pc resolution
 
....snip...

Make sure you get a card that supports the TVs native resolution and a
TV with enough inputs, so you can still plug in your DVD player,
decoder etc. as well as the PC.


Not necessary if you use 'powerstrip'

Incidentally, If you wan't to be able to read the text at 1080p,
you'll need to sit really close, or get a really big TV. Our 32 inch
TV is only 720p and, from a "normal" TV viewing distance, the text is
borderline unreadable.


Nothing to do with how close you sit. Text is unreadable on your 32"
telly because its only 720.


It's also probably running interlaced which won't help. There are some
sites on the web that suggest that you can run half the resolution but
non-interlaced into most TVs. Not tried it yet but they claim the picture
is more readable.

Paul DS.



Paul D.Smith September 25th 07 03:35 PM

Best tv for pc resolution
 
....snip..
Make sure you get a card that supports the TVs native resolution and a
TV with enough inputs, so you can still plug in your DVD player,
decoder etc. as well as the PC.


Not necessary if you use 'powerstrip'

Incidentally, If you wan't to be able to read the text at 1080p,
you'll need to sit really close, or get a really big TV. Our 32 inch
TV is only 720p and, from a "normal" TV viewing distance, the text is
borderline unreadable.


Nothing to do with how close you sit. Text is unreadable on your 32"
telly because its only 720.


Whoops - must also read closer. Your telly might support 720p but I'll bet
the computer is outputting 720i. Powerstrip can help if that is the case
and the text should become far more readable. 720p is not far off 768p
which is what many older monitors use and the text is perfectly good on
those.

Paul DS



Colin Stamp September 25th 07 07:04 PM

Best tv for pc resolution
 
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:58:11 +0100, Bigguy wrote:

Colin Stamp wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:43:57 -0000, wrote:

I want to purchase a new lcd tv which will be connected to a pc as
well as my sky+. I want a 1080p resolution tv, but I also want to get
the maximum resolution use from the connected pc. Those tv's that I
have looked at so far allow a max res from pc input of 1024x768. Is
this the best I can expect ?

TIA


I think it's the PC that's your problem, not the TV. The 15-pin
analogue VGA connector that's standard on PCs isn't really capable of
doing 1080p resolution properly.


No. It's crappy tellies that can't do a decent res' via their VGA inputs...
I've run 1600 x 1200 over VGA analogue with no probs...


Well bully for you. 1600 is rather less than 1920 though isn't it?
Presumably, if you manage to get your car to go at 120MPH, you will
assume that it, and all other cars are actually capable of at least
144MPH.
I notice you're not using a VGA cable for your 1080p telly, by the
way...



You can get PC graphics cards with
DVI or even HDMI outputs, so you won't need to use the TV's ropey "PC"
input. Then you should be able to drive the TV to its full resolution
even if it quotes a lower value for PCs.
Make sure you get a card that supports the TVs native resolution and a
TV with enough inputs, so you can still plug in your DVD player,
decoder etc. as well as the PC.

Incidentally, If you wan't to be able to read the text at 1080p,
you'll need to sit really close, or get a really big TV. Our 32 inch
TV is only 720p and, from a "normal" TV viewing distance, the text is
borderline unreadable.


Then there is something wrong with your telly or the way it's connected
up... ;-)

I'm driving a 52" 1080 Sharp LCD TV from my PC at 1920 x 1080 using DVI
to HDMI cable and it's pixel perfect.

No problem reading text at all - even small stuff.


Like I said, you'll need a really big TV.


Get a PC graphics card that does genuine HD1920 x 1080 via DVI connector.
Use a DVI to HDMI cable and go in to the telly via HDMI (NOT PC/VGA)
Make sure telly is not resizing / overscanning - most do (stupidly) even
with a 'native' 1920 x 1080 signal.


At last, we agree on something.

Cheers,

Colin.

Colin Stamp September 25th 07 07:04 PM

Best tv for pc resolution
 
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:29:57 GMT, "ThePunisher"
wrote:


What a load of ********.


Indeed you are.

Cheers,

Colin.

Colin Stamp September 25th 07 07:04 PM

Best tv for pc resolution
 
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:07:18 -0000, Dr Hfuhruhurr
wrote:

On 24 Sep, 20:39, Colin Stamp wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:43:57 -0000, wrote:
I want to purchase a new lcd tv which will be connected to a pc as
well as my sky+. I want a 1080p resolution tv, but I also want to get
the maximum resolution use from the connected pc. Those tv's that I
have looked at so far allow a max res from pc input of 1024x768. Is
this the best I can expect ?


TIA


I think it's the PC that's your problem, not the TV. The 15-pin
analogue VGA connector that's standard on PCs isn't really capable of
doing 1080p resolution properly.


Unfortunately this is totally untrue.


Unfortunately, you either didn't read what I said, or you don't know
what you're talking about.


You can get PC graphics cards with
DVI or even HDMI outputs, so you won't need to use the TV's ropey "PC"
input. Then you should be able to drive the TV to its full resolution
even if it quotes a lower value for PCs.


No you won't.


Why Not?


Make sure you get a card that supports the TVs native resolution and a
TV with enough inputs, so you can still plug in your DVD player,
decoder etc. as well as the PC.


Not necessary if you use 'powerstrip'

Incidentally, If you wan't to be able to read the text at 1080p,
you'll need to sit really close, or get a really big TV. Our 32 inch
TV is only 720p and, from a "normal" TV viewing distance, the text is
borderline unreadable.


Nothing to do with how close you sit.


Oh yes it is. I feel a little better qualified than you to comment on
this, since I live in the house but, to my knowledge, you've never
even visited.

Text is unreadable on your 32" telly because its only 720.


Superb! So you reckon that, if my 32" TV was 1080 rather than 720, the
text would be larger! I guess the laws of physics must be a little
different round your way.

Cheers,

Colin.


Colin Stamp September 25th 07 07:04 PM

Best tv for pc resolution
 
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:19:48 -0700, "
wrote:


Control Panel, Display, Settings, Advanced, DPI setting. Change to
suit.

(some poorly written programs won't understand; some web pages will
stupidly over ride - but most things work very well. I'm using 120DPI
right now)


I've tried bigger DPI settings, but actually "borderline unreadable"
is fine for me. I don't normally try to read text from my TV viewing
position. Others might though, hence my comment to the OP.

Cheers,

Colin.

Colin Stamp September 25th 07 07:04 PM

Best tv for pc resolution
 
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:22:46 +0100, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

In article . com, Dr
Hfuhruhurr wrote:
I think it's the PC that's your problem, not the TV. The 15-pin
analogue VGA connector that's standard on PCs isn't really capable of
doing 1080p resolution properly.


Unfortunately this is totally untrue.


Agreed. My PC monitor is 1600 x 1200 and has both the standard 15-pin VGA
analogue input and a digital input. I've been perfectly happy with it
connected via 15-pin analogue, but the graphic card on my most recent
computer (built this year) has both types of output, giving me the
opportunity to try both, so just out of curiosity, I did. I can't see any
difference at all.


What's agreed? That neither of you have tried 1920X1080 over a VGA
connection?

Actually, it's probably possible to get it to work, but it'll be
hit-and-miss at best. Any TV manufacturer who claims to support
1920X1080 on their VGA input is opening themselves up to loads of
complaints.

Cheers,

Colin

Colin Stamp September 25th 07 07:04 PM

Best tv for pc resolution
 
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:33:38 +0100, "Paul D.Smith"
wrote:

...snip...

Make sure you get a card that supports the TVs native resolution and a
TV with enough inputs, so you can still plug in your DVD player,
decoder etc. as well as the PC.


Not necessary if you use 'powerstrip'

Incidentally, If you wan't to be able to read the text at 1080p,
you'll need to sit really close, or get a really big TV. Our 32 inch
TV is only 720p and, from a "normal" TV viewing distance, the text is
borderline unreadable.


Nothing to do with how close you sit. Text is unreadable on your 32"
telly because its only 720.


It's also probably running interlaced which won't help. There are some
sites on the web that suggest that you can run half the resolution but
non-interlaced into most TVs. Not tried it yet but they claim the picture
is more readable.


I'm afraid you've been led up the garden path by Dr Hfuhruhurr.
The PC display on my TV is perfect. The text is nearly unreadable
because I sit too far away from it.

Cheers,

Colin.



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