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In article , charles
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In article , Jim Lesurf
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In article , Max Demian


Ah, yes. Sort of tucked away in a comment at the bottom of the box,
with no real details. Hardly surprising I missed it! Not much help for
those who are now wondering, "Where has ITV3 gone?..." is it.

I wonder how many people around the UK now assume they can't get ITV
any more due to the change in PIDs and station numbers, and haven't
even seen the obscure RT 'announcement' or realise what it means.

Well done, RT. Fountain of useful info. Not. :-)


well, it is a BBC publication. TV Times would be the one to look at for
details about changes to ITV

Strange, then, that RT has blazed on the front cover: "The Ultimate Digital
and TV Guide." Do they mean, "This is the last issue you will buy as you
will find it worthless?" :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Bill Wright
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Isn't life funny? When I failed the 11+ (mostly due to fighting; we were
assessed, not examined) I was told that my adult life was ruined before
it had started...

Anyway, it was going to be really horrid. But of course it wasn't.
Teachers always overemphasise the importance of academic success.

When I failed my 11+ none of the teachers seemed to be bothered one way or
another. Maybe this was because I was at school so rarely. Maybe it was
because they guessed I'd become a uni academic. ;-

Slainte,

Jim

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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:47:07 +0100, Bill Wright
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No, if anything I under-exerted my mind in my younger days! If I'd worked
harder all through school, really applied myself and got a decent degree,
studied assiduously all though my early 20s, I could have spent the last 40
years working for some vast organisation, suffering all the internal
politics, the inhumanity of higher management, the senseless bureaucracy,
the long hours, the poor rewards. As it is I was an idle little ****er at
school, interested only in booze and birds, and as a result I've been
condemmed to 40 years of fairly carefree self employment, dealing only with
people I like, quickly ditching those I don't, choosing my own hours, making
my own decisions, and generally having a nice time.

And you've made a lot more money than you would have.

Teachers always overemphasise the importance of academic success.

And everyone has to go to 'university' although that term itself has been
completely cheapened compared to what it used to mean.
Now we have very few competent people in trades, and those that are any
good make pots of dosh.
Seems I chose the wrong path... but I'm going to be making up for it in the
future by being a useless, moaning, argumentative, disinterested layout.
Lots of people get away with it where I work, so why not me?

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In article , Paul Ratcliffe
scribeth thus
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:47:07 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

No, if anything I under-exerted my mind in my younger days! If I'd worked
harder all through school, really applied myself and got a decent degree,
studied assiduously all though my early 20s, I could have spent the last 40
years working for some vast organisation, suffering all the internal
politics, the inhumanity of higher management, the senseless bureaucracy,
the long hours, the poor rewards. As it is I was an idle little ****er at
school, interested only in booze and birds, and as a result I've been
condemmed to 40 years of fairly carefree self employment, dealing only with
people I like, quickly ditching those I don't, choosing my own hours, making
my own decisions, and generally having a nice time.

And you've made a lot more money than you would have.

Teachers always overemphasise the importance of academic success.

And everyone has to go to 'university' although that term itself has been
completely cheapened compared to what it used to mean.
Now we have very few competent people in trades, and those that are any
good make pots of dosh.
Seems I chose the wrong path... but I'm going to be making up for it in the
future by being a useless, moaning, argumentative, disinterested layout.
Lots of people get away with it where I work, so why not me?



A young lady relative I have didn't got to uni, but is now earning
serious money in sales in London and is debt free of tuition fees and
isn't exactly thick either;)...
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:42:30 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

Seems I chose the wrong path... but I'm going to be making up for it in the
future by being a useless, moaning, argumentative, disinterested layout.

Of course I meant "layabout". I'll blame this error on being up since 3.30am
working on bloody breakfast TV.

A young lady relative I have didn't got to uni, but is now earning
serious money in sales in London and is debt free of tuition fees and
isn't exactly thick either;)...

Lucky her. BTW, the quoting rules apply in Usenet news as well as on
email lists.

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In article , Paul Ratcliffe
scribeth thus
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:42:30 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

Seems I chose the wrong path... but I'm going to be making up for it in the
future by being a useless, moaning, argumentative, disinterested layout.

Of course I meant "layabout". I'll blame this error on being up since 3.30am
working on bloody breakfast TV.

A young lady relative I have didn't got to uni, but is now earning
serious money in sales in London and is debt free of tuition fees and
isn't exactly thick either;)...

Lucky her.

Not really, she works very hard and very long hours, bit like her dad!..

BTW, the quoting rules apply in Usenet news as well as on
email lists.

Yes...well thats Mike B 4 U..

I don't think half a page or thereabouts matters do you?..
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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , charles
wrote:
In article , Jim Lesurf
wrote:
In article , Max Demian


Ah, yes. Sort of tucked away in a comment at the bottom of the box,
with no real details. Hardly surprising I missed it! Not much help for
those who are now wondering, "Where has ITV3 gone?..." is it.

I wonder how many people around the UK now assume they can't get ITV
any more due to the change in PIDs and station numbers, and haven't
even seen the obscure RT 'announcement' or realise what it means.

Well done, RT. Fountain of useful info. Not. :-)


well, it is a BBC publication. TV Times would be the one to look at for
details about changes to ITV

Strange, then, that RT has blazed on the front cover: "The Ultimate
Digital and TV Guide." Do they mean, "This is the last issue you will buy
as you will find it worthless?" :-)

cynical mode on it will have nothing technical whatsover cynical mode
off

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charles wrote:

Strange, then, that RT has blazed on the front cover: "The Ultimate
Digital and TV Guide." Do they mean, "This is the last issue you will buy
as you will find it worthless?" :-)

cynical mode on it will have nothing technical whatsover cynical mode
off

It used to Charles, I can remember UHF coverage maps in there when a new
transmitter launched in the early 1970s?


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"Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message
...
And you've made a lot more money than you would have.

Probably. The people I was at junior school with who passed the 11+ have had
a wide range of fortunes. I still see some of them, surprisingly, and I
suppose I'm about average for income. They've mostly got much better
pensions though.

Interestingly, the ones who've made serious amounts of money have done it in
ways that bear no relationship to their university courses or early jobs.

I was trained as a teacher, and very few of my contemporaries from the
college are still teaching. Most packed it in years ago.

Bill

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"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Ratcliffe
scribeth thus
A young lady relative I have didn't got to uni, but is now earning
serious money in sales in London and is debt free of tuition fees and
isn't exactly thick either;)...

Our Paul announced in 1996 that he was going to have a gap year and spend it
fixing TV aerials. The gap year still continues . . .

Bill