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Peter Pan wrote:
Peter Pan wrote:
On 2007-08-20, John Schutkeker
wrote:
Herb wrote in news:Rp5yi.54979$jE4.54052
@fe12.news.easynews.com:

A VCR does NOT give you free what you pay for with Tivo. What
you're paying for is automatic programming, finding programs that
shift times (or even channels), knowing if it missed a recording
and finding a rerun, and lots more

Not me. I want to pay for the hard drive and nothing more, because
that's where the benefits are. You get fast access, without
tedious spooling, the ability to record more than one program at a
time, the ability to watch and record at the same time, or to
pause a real time broadcast.

So why don't you just get a plain ole DVR instead of looking only at
units with Tivo? They have many dvr's with no tivo, even at places
like walmart......

PS Happened to be in walmart today, and they have a 160 GB panasonic
DVR (no Tivo) and reads and writes DVD's, for $258

DRA-01601A: DVD Recorder with 160GB Hard Drive
Records up to 204 hours of media on the 160GB built-in hard disc
drive (No subscription needed)
Includes YesDVD Software to create DVDs at the touch of a button
HDMI connections for easy cable hookups
Built-in ATSC digital and NTSC analog tuners

Correction, it started with a P but different second letters... It was a
Polaroid, not a Panasonic, and forgot to paste a link
http://www.polaroid.com/global/detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441765904&FOL DER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032643&bmUID=11876305 70687&bmLocale=en_US

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John Schutkeker wrote:
"Peter Pan" wrote in

Any of the S2's that have a lifetime basic thing would work for you
(look for things like the Toshiba/Humax/Etc on Ebay, just looked and
306 hits for Series2 DVR)

I don't want lifetime; I don't want any subscription.

Peter stated it wrong; "basic" is the opposite of "lifetime".

Some S2 units come with basic functionality. (No season passes, no
wishlists, only a few days of programming info.) The device calls
home to get info, but no subscription is required.

-Joe

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Joe Smith shaped the electrons to say:
Peter stated it wrong; "basic" is the opposite of "lifetime".

Some S2 units come with basic functionality. (No season passes, no

All Pioneer and Toshiba units included TiVo Basic - and that's it. No
other TiVo has Basic.

The Series1, of course, can be used without a subscription with just
time/channel recording.

-MZ
--
megazone-at-megazone.org http://www.MegaZone.org/ Gweep, Geek, Human, me.
http://www.TiVoLovers.com/ http://www.Eyrie-Productions.com/ -- Hail Eris
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-852-2171

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John Schutkeker wrote:

Any of the S2's that have a lifetime basic thing would work for you
(look for things like the Toshiba/Humax/Etc on Ebay, just looked and
306 hits for Series2 DVR)

I don't want lifetime; I don't want any subscription.

I'm not sure what your objection to basic lifetime is. But any of the older
Series 1 machines that originally shipped with software version 1.3 (circa 2001)
will function in "VCR mode" without a subscription. You can record a particular
channel, starting at a particular time, ending at some other time.

-- Doug