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David August 7th 07 07:21 PM

Freeview, less hieght on ITV than BBC
 
Noticed the bottom of my w/s TV that the bottom of the picture as shrunk
slightly on BBC stations but on ITV stations it is 3 times as much.
So I will be getting my info. out to go to service menu and adjust it. But
I'm of course going to have to do a compromise.
Any ideas why the difference between BBC stations and ITV stations? Do
they not work to same standards?
Philips Freeview, Panasonic crt TV and Emley Moor transmitter.

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Regards,
David

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Andy Burns[_2_] August 7th 07 11:37 PM

Freeview, less hieght on ITV than BBC
 
On 07/08/2007 18:21, David wrote:

Noticed the bottom of my w/s TV that the bottom of the picture as shrunk
slightly on BBC stations but on ITV stations it is 3 times as much.
So I will be getting my info. out to go to service menu and adjust it. But
I'm of course going to have to do a compromise.
Any ideas why the difference between BBC stations and ITV stations? Do
they not work to same standards?
Philips Freeview, Panasonic crt TV and Emley Moor transmitter.


Do you want to try to re-phrase that to be either a question or
statement we might understand?

Graham. August 8th 07 12:04 AM

Freeview, less hieght on ITV than BBC
 

"David" wrote in message
...
Noticed the bottom of my w/s TV that the bottom of the picture as shrunk
slightly on BBC stations but on ITV stations it is 3 times as much.
So I will be getting my info. out to go to service menu and adjust it.
But I'm of course going to have to do a compromise.
Any ideas why the difference between BBC stations and ITV stations? Do
they not work to same standards?
Philips Freeview, Panasonic crt TV and Emley Moor transmitter.


If material was originally shot in a format wider than 16:9, I would want
to see it full-frame, ie letterboxed. Your TV probably left the factory
correctly set-up, I wouldn't opt for a compromise setting if I were you.
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Graham.
%Profound_observation%



Bill Wright August 8th 07 01:04 AM

Freeview, less hieght on ITV than BBC
 

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
On 07/08/2007 18:21, David wrote:

Noticed the bottom of my w/s TV that the bottom of the picture as shrunk
slightly on BBC stations but on ITV stations it is 3 times as much.
So I will be getting my info. out to go to service menu and adjust it.
But I'm of course going to have to do a compromise.
Any ideas why the difference between BBC stations and ITV stations? Do
they not work to same standards?
Philips Freeview, Panasonic crt TV and Emley Moor transmitter.


Do you want to try to re-phrase that to be either a question or statement
we might understand?


You are obviously not used to dealing with the public. Compared with what I
get every day that was a masterpiece of clarity.

Bill



David August 8th 07 06:04 AM

Freeview, less hieght on ITV than BBC
 

"David" wrote in message
...
Noticed the bottom of my w/s TV that the bottom of the picture as shrunk
slightly on BBC stations but on ITV stations it is 3 times as much.
So I will be getting my info. out to go to service menu and adjust it.
But I'm of course going to have to do a compromise.
Any ideas why the difference between BBC stations and ITV stations? Do
they not work to same standards?
Philips Freeview, Panasonic crt TV and Emley Moor transmitter.

--

Ok another way of putting the change that as occured.

There is now a very small black band at bottom of BBC pictures, just about
noticable.
On ITV stations it is 3 times size and noticable.

As this is there all time it is nothing to do with the occasional movie film
etc. which might be transmitted in a different ratio to the now normal w/s
16x9.

2 solutions as I see it.
Adjust so band removed on BBC stations, and leaving a smaller band on ITV
stations.
Or, adjust to remove the band on ITV stations, thus causing very slight loss
of picture at bottom of BBC stations.

Hope this as made my situation clearer.



David August 8th 07 06:04 AM

Freeview, less hieght on ITV than BBC
 

"Graham." wrote in message
...

.. Your TV probably left the factory
correctly set-up,


Well I wish this were true.

I find the set makers supply the TV s with a picture that is larger than the
display size so any shrinkage in picture as the set ages does not show.

If it were possible these days to see the Test Card as one did in the old
days before TV went 24/7 I wonder if the circle would be round and the
squares all same size and lines straight?

( Is there any station at any stange time transmitting the test card?)

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Regards,
David

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the dog from that film you saw[_2_] August 8th 07 07:36 AM

Freeview, less hieght on ITV than BBC
 

"David" wrote in message
...



--

Ok another way of putting the change that as occured.

There is now a very small black band at bottom of BBC pictures, just about
noticable.
On ITV stations it is 3 times size and noticable.

As this is there all time it is nothing to do with the occasional movie
film etc. which might be transmitted in a different ratio to the now
normal w/s 16x9.





are you watching digital or analogue broadcasts?
if analogue, they are usually 14:9 - so will have visible black bands if you
watch them with your tv set to wide - you would need to switch to 14:9
zoom - or better still watch the widescreen digital version.



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Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
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Graham. August 8th 07 08:50 AM

Freeview, less hieght on ITV than BBC
 

"David" wrote in message
...

"Graham." wrote in message
...

. Your TV probably left the factory
correctly set-up,


Well I wish this were true.

I find the set makers supply the TV s with a picture that is larger than
the display size so any shrinkage in picture as the set ages does not
show.

If it were possible these days to see the Test Card as one did in the old
days before TV went 24/7 I wonder if the circle would be round and the
squares all same size and lines straight?

( Is there any station at any stange time transmitting the test card?)

--


That certainly can be true of CRT sets, and may be true of Pasama/LCD,
but not for the reason you state (allowing for shrinkage) because the pixels
are addressed, rather than scanned like a CRT. Also you say that the effect
is different on different channels to which I conclude the set is displaying
the
material as broadcast. Is the gap there on live studio camera material?

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Graham.
%Profound_observation%



David August 8th 07 08:53 AM

Freeview, less hieght on ITV than BBC
 

"the dog from that film you saw" wrote
in message ...

are you watching digital or analogue broadcasts?
if


Yes digital, I did say Freeview.
Ye anologue a complete disastor on a w/s set.
--
Regards,
David

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Malcolm H August 8th 07 09:23 AM

Freeview, less hieght on ITV than BBC
 

"David" wrote in message
...

"David" wrote in message
...
Noticed the bottom of my w/s TV that the bottom of the picture as shrunk
slightly on BBC stations but on ITV stations it is 3 times as much.
So I will be getting my info. out to go to service menu and adjust it.
But I'm of course going to have to do a compromise.
Any ideas why the difference between BBC stations and ITV stations? Do
they not work to same standards?
Philips Freeview, Panasonic crt TV and Emley Moor transmitter.

--

Ok another way of putting the change that as occured.

There is now a very small black band at bottom of BBC pictures, just about
noticable.
On ITV stations it is 3 times size and noticable.

As this is there all time it is nothing to do with the occasional movie
film etc. which might be transmitted in a different ratio to the now
normal w/s 16x9.

2 solutions as I see it.
Adjust so band removed on BBC stations, and leaving a smaller band on ITV
stations.
Or, adjust to remove the band on ITV stations, thus causing very slight
loss of picture at bottom of BBC stations.

Hope this as made my situation clearer.


Would be interesting to see what happens if you try a w/s panel (LCD or
plasma) in place or the CRT TV. All BBC and ITV channels are perfectly
framed on my Humax w/s LCD TV.




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