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[email protected] August 8th 07 10:05 PM

Is there such thing as OTA HDTV without dropouts?
 
By the way..... My signal strength still remains at about 75%.
However, it's consistent. It didn't matter if the antenna was in the
attic or the roof, as long as it was aimed at the antenna farm. NO
DROPOUTS....AWESOME!!!!

I never changed my wires to the R6, since changing it would of
involved a lot of work. I would of done that next if this route
didn't work.

THANKS EVERYBODY.

Stan



[email protected] August 8th 07 10:10 PM

Is there such thing as OTA HDTV without dropouts?
 
GG,
I never tried the attenuators either. I figured I wanted to work with
what I had first. I did try an indoor antenna that was made for UHF
only. It's one of those double bow tie stuff they sell at Radio Shack
a long time ago. That only made my reception worst.

thanks for your advice,
stan

As an inexpensive experiment, you could try a couple different value
attenuators say 3, 6 or 10 dB. If the amplifier made it worse, you may
be simply overloading the front end(s). At 12 miles you shouldn't need
any large antenna unless you have a difficult multipath issue that a
more directional could help though it would have more signal output as
well. Attenuators are excellent for that scenario.

We're in LA and use a Winegard SquareShooter (little over 4 dB gain,
13 dB front-back) 35 miles out, line of sight, signal split 4 ways.
Dropouts are so rare I don't remember the last one.

GG




Tantalust August 8th 07 11:33 PM

Is there such thing as OTA HDTV without dropouts?
 
wrote in message
ups.com...
FINALLY COMPLETED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I went up in the attic and looked at the position of the antenna. The
antenna was actually aimed West (it should be aimed North at Mt
Wilson's antenna farm.) I aimed the antenna North and checked the
reception.

The HDTV reception remained at about 75%....however this time it was
consistent. There were no dropouts. Wow! I then checked my analog
station and it actually made some channels worst. Since I have
ReplayTV, I still need analog TV.

I then moved the antenna out of the attic and on the roof. On my
roof, I can actually see the antenna farm where the TV stations
antenna are. I never noticed the Antenna Farm until Alan F mention it
on the thread. I pointed my antenna directly at the Antenna Farm.

Now both my analog TV works fine, and my Digitial HDTV works perfect.
I was watching TV for about an hours and there wasn't even one drop-
out.

AWESOME!!!!




Glad you got it to work!

Now, see how long it's going to be before you start to really dislike analog
and love only the HDTV reception. :-)



Alan F August 9th 07 06:24 AM

Is there such thing as OTA HDTV without dropouts?
 
wrote:
By the way..... My signal strength still remains at about 75%.
However, it's consistent. It didn't matter if the antenna was in the
attic or the roof, as long as it was aimed at the antenna farm. NO
DROPOUTS....AWESOME!!!!

I never changed my wires to the R6, since changing it would of
involved a lot of work. I would of done that next if this route
didn't work.

THANKS EVERYBODY.

Stan


Good to hear that you solved your problem. Don't worry about the 75%.
As long it is good enough to get a stable lock, you are set. The meters
are more of a measurement of error rate than they are of actual signal
strength.

What you probably getting in the attic was multipath. Going up on the
roof made for a clean direct shot at the Mt. Wilson antenna farm. If you
run into problems in the future, you may want to someday replace the
cable with shielded RG-6.

Alan F


[email protected] August 9th 07 06:01 PM

Is there such thing as OTA HDTV without dropouts?
 

Now, see how long it's going to be before you start to really dislike analog
and love only the HDTV reception. :-)


Yeap.......new problem. I don't think I can watch analog TV through
my Tivo/ReplayTV anymore. Now I need to upgrade to a HDTV PVR. I
think I will start a new thread for more information.

Stan


Bill's News August 9th 07 06:36 PM

Is there such thing as OTA HDTV without dropouts?
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Tantalust" wrote:

Now, see how long it's going to be before you start to really
dislike analog
and love only the HDTV reception. :-)


You are making the common mistake of equating "digital" with
"HDTV".

While high def IS digital, digital is not hi def.

Properly spoken, your statement would be "start really to
dislike analog
and love only the digital reception". When analog goes away,
all OTA
will be digital--but of that digital, some will be standard
def ("low
resolution") and some will be hi def ("high resolution").


More likely that he meant SD, when stating "analog." I find it,
HD, to be a deciding factor when choosing among insignificant
offerings. If only there were an HD candidate to be seen ;-0)




Tantalust August 9th 07 07:33 PM

Is there such thing as OTA HDTV without dropouts?
 
wrote in message
ps.com...

Now, see how long it's going to be before you start to really dislike
analog
and love only the HDTV reception. :-)


Yeap.......new problem. I don't think I can watch analog TV through
my Tivo/ReplayTV anymore. Now I need to upgrade to a HDTV PVR. I
think I will start a new thread for more information.

Stan


You might try poking around over at

http://www.weaknees.com/

Lots 'o stuff.



Tantalust August 9th 07 07:39 PM

Is there such thing as OTA HDTV without dropouts?
 
"Bill's News" wrote in message
...

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Tantalust" wrote:

Now, see how long it's going to be before you start to really dislike
analog
and love only the HDTV reception. :-)


You are making the common mistake of equating "digital" with "HDTV".

While high def IS digital, digital is not hi def.

Properly spoken, your statement would be "start really to dislike analog
and love only the digital reception". When analog goes away, all OTA
will be digital--but of that digital, some will be standard def ("low
resolution") and some will be hi def ("high resolution").

More likely that he meant SD, when stating "analog." I find it, HD, to be
a deciding factor when choosing among insignificant offerings. If only
there were an HD candidate to be seen ;-0)




Hmm, I wonder why I didn't see elmo's posting here.

Oh, that's right . . . . I killfiled that peasant years ago.



alien August 9th 07 11:18 PM

Is there such thing as OTA HDTV without dropouts?
 

wrote in message
ps.com...

Now, see how long it's going to be before you start to really dislike
analog
and love only the HDTV reception. :-)


Yeap.......new problem. I don't think I can watch analog TV through
my Tivo/ReplayTV anymore. Now I need to upgrade to a HDTV PVR. I
think I will start a new thread for more information.

Stan


I still use my replaytv and have turned the sharpness and color saturation
down on the component input that the replay feeds. It helps with the
watchability factor somewhat. It's grainy compared to HD, but I've gotten
used to it in the last year. I also put in a 250gb hard drive and only
record on medium quality. Standard or low (I forget what it's called) was
just too grainy. For my HD recording I use a moto 6412 cable box and I'm
happy with it but HD recording takes up space fast. That's why I still use
the replaytv for SD recording.

alien




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