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Beck August 1st 07 12:40 PM

Telephone line connected to box
 
It really frustrates me that we have to have the telephone line connected to
the sky boxes at all times with multiroom.
Just trying to setup my phone line ready for tomorrow's extra install and
its a right royal pain. Because the phoneline is downstairs and the box
will be upstairs, I have had to trail the extension via the central heating
boiler up through the ceiling and around into the 3rd bedroom. Its
certainly not a pretty sight. We already have two boxes plugged in, am now
having to piggy back a double phone socket into a quad socket. I hope this
does not interfere with my broadband.

What is the purpose for the stupidty of plugging in boxes to the lines? Its
only used for interactive services anyway, its not like its needed for box
updates. I can't even get away with not plugging them in as I know from
experience they continually bug you with letters warning of a cancellation
if its not plugged in. I wonder if anyone has actually had their service
cancelled for doing this...?


Beck August 1st 07 01:33 PM

Telephone line connected to box
 

"Anthony R. Gold" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:40:42 +0100, "Beck" [email protected] wrote:

What is the purpose for the stupidty of plugging in boxes to the lines?


To demonstrate that the boxes are at the same address.

I wonder if anyone has actually had their service
cancelled for doing this...?


No, of course not. You don't need to keep the phones plugged in to the
phone lines except only in order to qualify for the Multiroom discount of
£10 per added box. If you choose not to have the phones connected then
Sky will just bill you the full price for the extra box subscriptions, but
no-one will cancel your services because you don't have phone connections.


Ah okay thanks, I didn't realise the £10 multiroom was discounted.
The line itself does not prove its the same address though, anyone can
dnagle a line to their neighbour. :-)


the dog from that film you saw[_2_] August 1st 07 06:32 PM

Telephone line connected to box
 

"Beck" [email protected] wrote in message
anews.com...
It really frustrates me that we have to have the telephone line connected
to the sky boxes at all times with multiroom.
Just trying to setup my phone line ready for tomorrow's extra install and
its a right royal pain. Because the phoneline is downstairs and the box
will be upstairs, I have had to trail the extension via the central
heating boiler up through the ceiling and around into the 3rd bedroom.
Its certainly not a pretty sight. We already have two boxes plugged in,
am now having to piggy back a double phone socket into a quad socket. I
hope this does not interfere with my broadband.

What is the purpose for the stupidty of plugging in boxes to the lines?




with multiroom it's so they know box 2 isnt in your aunt ednas house at a
cut rate.



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/



Paul Hyett August 1st 07 07:38 PM

Telephone line connected to box
 
In uk.media.tv.sky on Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Anthony R. Gold wrote :
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:40:42 +0100, "Beck" [email protected] wrote:

What is the purpose for the stupidty of plugging in boxes to the lines?


To demonstrate that the boxes are at the same address.

I wonder if anyone has actually had their service
cancelled for doing this...?


No, of course not. You don't need to keep the phones plugged in to the
phone lines except only in order to qualify for the Multiroom discount of
£10 per added box. If you choose not to have the phones connected then
Sky will just bill you the full price for the extra box subscriptions


But if they tried that, people would just cancel the 2nd sub, so Sky
would lose the revenue anyway...
--
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

Brian McIlwrath August 1st 07 08:42 PM

Telephone line connected to box
 
Paul Hyett wrote:
: £10 per added box. If you choose not to have the phones connected then
: Sky will just bill you the full price for the extra box subscriptions

: But if they tried that, people would just cancel the 2nd sub, so Sky
: would lose the revenue anyway...

But that's precisely what they do do! Loss of Multiroom revenue is *FAR*
more preferable to Sky than tolerating any chance of people giving their 2nd
cards to friends or family!

steeler August 2nd 07 01:31 AM

Telephone line connected to box
 

"Anthony R. Gold" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:33:28 +0100, "Beck" [email protected] wrote:

Ah okay thanks, I didn't realise the £10 multiroom was discounted.


For just £10 per month you can mirror the same packages that may be
costing £50 per month or more for your first box.

The line itself does not prove its the same address though, anyone can
dnagle a line to their neighbour. :-)


And with VOIP that "neighbour" may even be on a different continent :-)


Try getting them to accept a non-geographic number.



Paul Hyett August 2nd 07 09:33 AM

Telephone line connected to box
 
In uk.media.tv.sky on Wed, 1 Aug 2007, the dog from that film you saw
wrote :


What is the purpose for the stupidty of plugging in boxes to the lines?


with multiroom it's so they know box 2 isnt in your aunt ednas house at a
cut rate.


But they'll only get £10pm from it, whether its still at your house, or
aunt Edna's. If they tried charging people two full subs in those
circumstances, I suspect most people would tell them to FOAD.
--
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

Brian McIlwrath August 2nd 07 11:44 AM

Telephone line connected to box
 
Paul Hyett wrote:

: But they'll only get £10pm from it, whether its still at your house, or
: aunt Edna's. If they tried charging people two full subs in those
: circumstances, I suspect most people would tell them to FOAD.

If people don't keep *BOTH* STBs connected to the phone line Sky *WILL*
cancel the Multiroom subscription! What the csutomer wants to do then is
up to them!

the dog from that film you saw[_2_] August 2nd 07 06:03 PM

Telephone line connected to box
 

"Paul Hyett" wrote in message
...
In uk.media.tv.sky on Wed, 1 Aug 2007, the dog from that film you saw
wrote :


What is the purpose for the stupidty of plugging in boxes to the lines?


with multiroom it's so they know box 2 isnt in your aunt ednas house at a
cut rate.


But they'll only get £10pm from it, whether its still at your house, or
aunt Edna's. If they tried charging people two full subs in those
circumstances, I suspect most people would tell them to FOAD.



but if they didnt enforce it, all across the country families would do it -
imagine all those £20-30 a month that would dissapear from their income.



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/



Graham. August 2nd 07 11:44 PM

Telephone line connected to box
 

"Anthony R. Gold" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:33:28 +0100, "Beck" [email protected] wrote:

Ah okay thanks, I didn't realise the £10 multiroom was discounted.


For just £10 per month you can mirror the same packages that may be
costing £50 per month or more for your first box.

The line itself does not prove its the same address though, anyone can
dnagle a line to their neighbour. :-)


And with VOIP that "neighbour" may even be on a different continent :-)

Tony

I've tried it, but never quite got it to work. Not as easy as sending a fax
for example. If you have succeeded, I would be interested to know the
details.

--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%



Paul Hyett August 3rd 07 09:50 AM

Telephone line connected to box
 
In uk.media.tv.sky on Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Mike Henry wrote :
In , Paul Hyett
wrote:

In uk.media.tv.sky on Wed, 1 Aug 2007, the dog from that film you saw
wrote :


What is the purpose for the stupidty of plugging in boxes to the lines?

with multiroom it's so they know box 2 isnt in your aunt ednas house at a
cut rate.


But they'll only get £10pm from it, whether its still at your house, or
aunt Edna's. If they tried charging people two full subs in those
circumstances, I suspect most people would tell them to FOAD.


People can do that if they like, but it doesn't affect the next stage of
the process which is that multiroom is immediately halted and only the
first viewing card works. HTH


Going off at a tangent, the reason I still have plain Sky boxes, is that
a stand-alone DVD/HD recorder gives more flexibility - you can choose
the recording quality, copying recordings is easier, plus (until
recently) there was the extra £10pm cost.
--
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

guv August 3rd 07 06:35 PM

Telephone line connected to box
 
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 07:50:08 GMT, Paul Hyett
wrote:

In uk.media.tv.sky on Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Mike Henry wrote :
In , Paul Hyett
wrote:

In uk.media.tv.sky on Wed, 1 Aug 2007, the dog from that film you saw
wrote :


What is the purpose for the stupidty of plugging in boxes to the lines?

with multiroom it's so they know box 2 isnt in your aunt ednas house at a
cut rate.

But they'll only get £10pm from it, whether its still at your house, or
aunt Edna's. If they tried charging people two full subs in those
circumstances, I suspect most people would tell them to FOAD.


People can do that if they like, but it doesn't affect the next stage of
the process which is that multiroom is immediately halted and only the
first viewing card works. HTH


Going off at a tangent, the reason I still have plain Sky boxes, is that
a stand-alone DVD/HD recorder gives more flexibility - you can choose
the recording quality, copying recordings is easier, plus (until
recently) there was the extra £10pm cost.


Its not flexible enough to watch one channel and record another though
- which is where $ky+ wins.


Paul Hyett August 4th 07 09:36 AM

Telephone line connected to box
 
In uk.media.tv.sky on Fri, 3 Aug 2007, guv wrote :

Going off at a tangent, the reason I still have plain Sky boxes, is that
a stand-alone DVD/HD recorder gives more flexibility - you can choose
the recording quality, copying recordings is easier, plus (until
recently) there was the extra £10pm cost.


Its not flexible enough to watch one channel and record another though


But given how often programs are repeated on Sky, that's not really a
problem.

- which is where $ky+ wins.

--
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett


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