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DAB sounds worse than FM August 1st 07 01:56 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you who're
already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the TV programmes
you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the duration of the
programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what bit rate they're using
for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the audio?


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



AC[_2_] August 1st 07 02:25 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 

"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you
who're already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the
TV programmes you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the
duration of the programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what
bit rate they're using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the
audio?


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info


Bombey Dreams , 60min show, 378Mb
HyperDrive, 30mins, 149Mb

The files are WMV. No sign of a separate WMA file, but that might be
cos I dont know what Im looking for.

AC



David Wright August 1st 07 02:55 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
The files are WMV. No sign of a separate WMA file, but that might be cos I
dont know what Im looking for.



There is only a WMV file - WMV contains audio so why would there be a
seperate WMA download??

Mountain, 58 mins, 228Mb
In The Night Garden, 25mins, 114Mb.

The first time I downloaded something, it took ages to get started - mainly
because I discovered it also downloaded about 2 dozen channel idents in WMV
format too - so now I have a range of idents for all the BBC channels, which
play as appropriate before you watch a programme.

D.



DAB sounds worse than FM August 1st 07 02:57 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
AC wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you
who're already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the
TV programmes you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the
duration of the programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what
bit rate they're using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the
audio?


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info


Bombey Dreams , 60min show, 378Mb



That's 881 kbps


HyperDrive, 30mins, 149Mb



That's 694 kbps.

Both are better than the 531 kbps (228 MB file size / 60 minute programme)
I've seen someone else report, but once you take off the bit rate for the
audio of about 100 - 128 kbps or so, it's no wonder that people are saying
that the picture quality is crap.


The files are WMV. No sign of a separate WMA file, but that might be
cos I dont know what Im looking for.



Yeah, my mistake, they should only be WMV files.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



DAB sounds worse than FM August 1st 07 03:07 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
David Wright wrote:
The files are WMV. No sign of a separate WMA file, but that might be
cos I dont know what Im looking for.



There is only a WMV file - WMV contains audio so why would there be a
seperate WMA download??



That was my mistake - I must've got mixed up with the iMP which had radio
programmes that could be downloaded in WMA.


Mountain, 58 mins, 228Mb



550 kbps


In The Night Garden, 25mins, 114Mb.



637 kbps

Once you've taken off the audio (~100-128kbps), they're both crap bit rate
levels for video using WMV.

BTW, if you want to calculate the bit rate (I'm sure most people won't want
to, but some might), you do the following:

bit rate in kbps = (number of MB x 2^23 / number of seconds) / 1000

or just

bit rate in kbps = number of MB x 8389 / number of seconds



--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



Ben August 1st 07 04:43 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Bombey Dreams , 60min show, 378Mb



That's 881 kbps


HyperDrive, 30mins, 149Mb



That's 694 kbps.

Both are better than the 531 kbps (228 MB file size / 60 minute programme)
I've seen someone else report, but once you take off the bit rate for the
audio of about 100 - 128 kbps or so, it's no wonder that people are saying
that the picture quality is crap.


Have they reduced the resolution? This might make the lower bitrates a
little more acceptable. And on the subject of resolution, is there any
HD to be had yet?

DAB sounds worse than FM August 1st 07 05:26 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
Ben wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Bombey Dreams , 60min show, 378Mb



That's 881 kbps


HyperDrive, 30mins, 149Mb



That's 694 kbps.

Both are better than the 531 kbps (228 MB file size / 60 minute
programme) I've seen someone else report, but once you take off the
bit rate for the audio of about 100 - 128 kbps or so, it's no wonder
that people are saying that the picture quality is crap.


Have they reduced the resolution? This might make the lower bitrates a
little more acceptable.



According to this thread, they are using a low resolution, but there's quite
a few comments about dodgy picture quality:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07...tion/comments/


And on the subject of resolution, is there any
HD to be had yet?



I doubt it, because the person behind DAB sounding so ****e (Simon Nelson)
is now in charge of the TV side of new media at the BBC, so HD will be the
last thing that low quality loving technically-incompetent imbecile will
provide.

Personally, I'd have thought launching a system where there'll be 5 million+
DAB radios (roughly £300m worth) being made obsolete by his incompetent
decisions would get him the sack. Oh no, not at the BBC, he gets promoted so
that he can screw up TV as well!


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



Paul D.Smith August 1st 07 05:33 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
....snip...
Personally, I'd have thought launching a system where there'll be 5
million+ DAB radios (roughly £300m worth) being made obsolete by his
incompetent decisions would get him the sack. Oh no, not at the BBC, he
gets promoted so that he can screw up TV as well!


Maybe from the perspective of Radio, this is the sack ;-).

Paul DS.



DAB sounds worse than FM August 1st 07 06:00 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
Paul D.Smith wrote:
...snip...
Personally, I'd have thought launching a system where there'll be 5
million+ DAB radios (roughly £300m worth) being made obsolete by his
incompetent decisions would get him the sack. Oh no, not at the BBC,
he gets promoted so that he can screw up TV as well!


Maybe from the perspective of Radio, this is the sack ;-).



I'd like to be able to think of it that way, but the reality is that he went
from one position in radio to an equal position in TV, and TV is deemed to
be a lot more important than radio by the BBC - I think about 90% of the
BBC's revenue is spent on TV - so it is really a promotion. I think the
problem is that BBC executives just don't have a clue about digital
technology so they don't even realise how unbelievably incompetent his
decisions were.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



Light of Aria August 1st 07 06:09 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 

"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you who're
already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the TV programmes
you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the duration of the
programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what bit rate they're
using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the audio?


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



Does it have [B[b][C] DOG **** on the picture and ****-voices?



David Pitt August 1st 07 06:31 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
In message
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:

Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you who're
already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the TV programmes
you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the duration of the
programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what bit rate they're using
for the programmes?


Obligingly Windows Media Player shows the bit rate by hovering the
mouse over the file type icon near the bottom left of the WMA window,
to the left of the filename.

The Prom 22 download replays at 729kb/s, which is correct for the file
size and duration.

It looks and sounds every bit as poor as that bit rate would suggest.

--
David Pitt.

Computing with RISC OS.

DAB sounds worse than FM August 1st 07 06:43 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
David Pitt wrote:
In message
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:

Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you
who're already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the
TV programmes you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the
duration of the programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what
bit rate they're using for the programmes?


Obligingly Windows Media Player shows the bit rate by hovering the
mouse over the file type icon near the bottom left of the WMA window,
to the left of the filename.

The Prom 22 download replays at 729kb/s, which is correct for the file
size and duration.

It looks and sounds every bit as poor as that bit rate would suggest.



If you play the file in Windows Media Player and go to File Properties,
what information does it have about the audio stream?


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



DAB sounds worse than FM August 1st 07 06:46 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
Light of Aria wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you
who're already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the
TV programmes you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the
duration of the programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what
bit rate they're using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the
audio? --
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



Does it have [B[b][C] DOG **** on the picture and ****-voices?



No idea, cos the BBC is limiting the number of people that can use it - so
much for their much vaunted "launch" on 27th July...


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



Damot August 1st 07 06:58 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:43:47 GMT, "DAB sounds worse than FM"
[email protected] wrote:

David Pitt wrote:
In message
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:

Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you
who're already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the
TV programmes you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the
duration of the programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what
bit rate they're using for the programmes?


Obligingly Windows Media Player shows the bit rate by hovering the
mouse over the file type icon near the bottom left of the WMA window,
to the left of the filename.

The Prom 22 download replays at 729kb/s, which is correct for the file
size and duration.

It looks and sounds every bit as poor as that bit rate would suggest.



If you play the file in Windows Media Player and go to File Properties,
what information does it have about the audio stream?


Or better still right-cick the file, then "Summary" That'll tell you
the audio and video rates.

David Pitt August 1st 07 07:10 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
In message
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:

David Pitt wrote:


[snip]

The Prom 22 download replays at 729kb/s, which is correct for the file
size and duration.

It looks and sounds every bit as poor as that bit rate would suggest.


If you play the file in Windows Media Player and go to File Properties,
what information does it have about the audio stream?


Good thinking, thanks.

Video size 672 x 384

Aspect ratio 7:4

Audio codec Windows Media Audio 9.1
128kb/s, 48kHz, stereo 1-pass CBR

--
David Pitt.

Computing with RISC OS.

DAB sounds worse than FM August 1st 07 08:17 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
David Pitt wrote:
In message
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:

David Pitt wrote:


[snip]

The Prom 22 download replays at 729kb/s, which is correct for the
file size and duration.

It looks and sounds every bit as poor as that bit rate would
suggest.


If you play the file in Windows Media Player and go to File
Properties, what information does it have about the audio stream?


Good thinking, thanks.

Video size 672 x 384

Aspect ratio 7:4

Audio codec Windows Media Audio 9.1
128kb/s, 48kHz, stereo 1-pass CBR



The audio quality shouldn't be too bad then, because 128 kbps WMA is capable
of providing good quality (miles better than typical DAB quality), so if the
file you've downloaded sounds crap then it's probably down to bad
engineering practice (they've probably decoded from the stream that would be
broadcast on digital TV then re-encoded to WMA, which is a big no-no, and I
wouldn't be surprised if they're doing this for the video stream as well,
which is also a big no-no, but the BBC is basically incompetent with regards
to engineering these days due to the BBC executives being about as clueless
as it is possible to be about everything technical).


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



Geoff Pearson August 1st 07 08:40 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 

"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you who're
already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the TV programmes
you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the duration of the
programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what bit rate they're
using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the audio?


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info


I can't get anything to download - it keeps telling me to download the
iplayer - which I have done 10 times.



Dom Robinson August 1st 07 09:47 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
In article , [email protected] says...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you who're
already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the TV programmes
you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the duration of the
programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what bit rate they're using
for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the audio?



Why would anyone download a programme from the BBC's system with it's own
software set-up, then do the same with C4, then Five and ITV (when they start
them), when there's the universal language of bittorrent?
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
/* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
/* 1134 DVDs, 350 games, 338 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news
/* alfie, flatout 3, last king of scotland, life & lyrics, activision psp
New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml
Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DVDfeverDom

DAB sounds worse than FM August 1st 07 10:06 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
Dom Robinson wrote:
In article , [email protected]
says...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you
who're already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the
TV programmes you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the
duration of the programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what
bit rate they're using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the
audio?



Why would anyone download a programme from the BBC's system with it's
own software set-up, then do the same with C4, then Five and ITV
(when they start them), when there's the universal language of
bittorrent?



Maybe I'm trying the wrong bittorrent sites, but sometimes when I've tried
to download a BBC or whatever programme, it's not always available, whereas
with the BBC iPlayer and the other broadcasters applications they should at
least be available and should be relatively quick to download because there
should be a lot of people with the file on their PCs.

Which bittorrent sites would you recommend?


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



Calum August 1st 07 10:16 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
Dom Robinson wrote:

Why would anyone download a programme from the BBC's system with it's own
software set-up, then do the same with C4, then Five and ITV (when they start
them), when there's the universal language of bittorrent?


Because it would be a lot harder for them to track who was downloading
what, and a lot slower for us punters (if every torrent experience I've
ever had is anything to go by)...?

Mike Plowman August 1st 07 10:47 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:47:59 +0100, Dom Robinson
wrote:

Why would anyone download a programme from the BBC's system with it's own
software set-up, then do the same with C4, then Five and ITV (when they start
them), when there's the universal language of bittorrent?


The ITV one will be streaming only Dom.
--
Mike Plowman
"Hey you, Horror Face. I'm a Printhead"

Dom Robinson August 2nd 07 12:21 AM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
In article , [email protected] says...
Dom Robinson wrote:
In article , [email protected]
says...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you
who're already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the
TV programmes you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the
duration of the programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what
bit rate they're using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the
audio?



Why would anyone download a programme from the BBC's system with it's
own software set-up, then do the same with C4, then Five and ITV
(when they start them), when there's the universal language of
bittorrent?



Maybe I'm trying the wrong bittorrent sites, but sometimes when I've tried
to download a BBC or whatever programme, it's not always available, whereas
with the BBC iPlayer and the other broadcasters applications they should at
least be available and should be relatively quick to download because there
should be a lot of people with the file on their PCs.

Which bittorrent sites would you recommend?

UK Nova (which isn't easy to sign up to as is often full), plus the following:
http://www.eztvefnet.org
http://www.mininova.org
http://thepiratebay.org
http://thebox.bz
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
/* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
/* 1134 DVDs, 350 games, 338 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news
/* alfie, flatout 3, last king of scotland, life & lyrics, activision psp
New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml
Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DVDfeverDom

Dom Robinson August 2nd 07 12:23 AM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
In article ,
am says...
Dom Robinson wrote:

Why would anyone download a programme from the BBC's system with it's own
software set-up, then do the same with C4, then Five and ITV (when they start
them), when there's the universal language of bittorrent?


Because it would be a lot harder for them to track who was downloading
what, and a lot slower for us punters (if every torrent experience I've
ever had is anything to go by)...?

Try downloading something recent (which is the point of Iplayer that has stuff
from the past 7 days) and it's not slow at all.
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
/*
http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
/* 1134 DVDs, 350 games, 338 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news
/* alfie, flatout 3, last king of scotland, life & lyrics, activision psp
New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml
Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DVDfeverDom

Dom Robinson August 2nd 07 12:24 AM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:47:59 +0100, Dom Robinson
wrote:

Why would anyone download a programme from the BBC's system with it's own
software set-up, then do the same with C4, then Five and ITV (when they start
them), when there's the universal language of bittorrent?


The ITV one will be streaming only Dom.

Ta for that. BTW, can you please convince someone at ITV to show the remaining
eps of Tough Gig, even if it's on ITV2-4? :)
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
/*
http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
/* 1134 DVDs, 350 games, 338 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news
/* alfie, flatout 3, last king of scotland, life & lyrics, activision psp
New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml
Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DVDfeverDom

AC[_2_] August 2nd 07 02:19 AM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 

"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
...
In article , [email protected]
says...
Dom Robinson wrote:
In article ,
[email protected]
says...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you
who're already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of
the
TV programmes you've downloaded so far please, and also say what
the
duration of the programme is in minutes so that I can calculate
what
bit rate they're using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the
audio?



Why would anyone download a programme from the BBC's system with
it's
own software set-up, then do the same with C4, then Five and ITV
(when they start them), when there's the universal language of
bittorrent?



Maybe I'm trying the wrong bittorrent sites, but sometimes when
I've tried
to download a BBC or whatever programme, it's not always available,
whereas
with the BBC iPlayer and the other broadcasters applications they
should at
least be available and should be relatively quick to download
because there
should be a lot of people with the file on their PCs.

Which bittorrent sites would you recommend?

UK Nova (which isn't easy to sign up to as is often full), plus the
following:
http://www.eztvefnet.org
http://www.mininova.org
http://thepiratebay.org
http://thebox.bz
--


Do any of these sites have the program about India that Sanjeev whats
his name did the other night?

I would assume the the popular stuff (Dr Who, LoM etc) is avaliable on
general BT, but this iplayer lark is good for the more obscure stuff.
Had to wait ages to get the The Seven Ages of Rock via normal BT. The
iplayer would have (probably) had this .

AC



David Pitt August 2nd 07 10:22 AM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
In message
"Geoff Pearson" wrote:


"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you who're
already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the TV programmes
you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the duration of the
programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what bit rate they're
using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the audio?


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info


I can't get anything to download - it keeps telling me to download the
iplayer - which I have done 10 times.


Has the Kontiki ActiveX been loaded. It appears in IE in a not very
noticeable tool bar.

--
David Pitt.

Computing with RISC OS.

DAB sounds worse than FM August 2nd 07 11:13 AM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
Dom Robinson wrote:
In article , [email protected]
says...
Dom Robinson wrote:
In article , [email protected]
says...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you
who're already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the
TV programmes you've downloaded so far please, and also say what
the duration of the programme is in minutes so that I can
calculate what bit rate they're using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the
audio?



Why would anyone download a programme from the BBC's system with
it's own software set-up, then do the same with C4, then Five and
ITV (when they start them), when there's the universal language of
bittorrent?



Maybe I'm trying the wrong bittorrent sites, but sometimes when I've
tried to download a BBC or whatever programme, it's not always
available, whereas with the BBC iPlayer and the other broadcasters
applications they should at least be available and should be
relatively quick to download because there should be a lot of people
with the file on their PCs.

Which bittorrent sites would you recommend?

UK Nova (which isn't easy to sign up to as is often full), plus the
following: http://www.eztvefnet.org
http://www.mininova.org
http://thepiratebay.org
http://thebox.bz



Thanks.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



Nick Austin August 2nd 07 11:55 AM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:21:29 +0100, Dom Robinson
wrote:

UK Nova (which isn't easy to sign up to as is often full)


They've not been full for the last month or so.

Nick.


Nick Austin August 2nd 07 11:55 AM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:19:34 GMT, "AC" wrote:

Do any of these sites have the program about India that Sanjeev whats
his name did the other night?


http://www.uknova.com/wsgi/torrent/view/47271

Nick.


AC[_2_] August 2nd 07 04:31 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 

"Nick Austin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:19:34 GMT, "AC" wrote:

Do any of these sites have the program about India that Sanjeev
whats
his name did the other night?


http://www.uknova.com/wsgi/torrent/view/47271

Nick.


Ah, its a sign up site. No ta.

But, I will believe that the torrent is there.

AC



Light of Aria August 2nd 07 05:33 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 

"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Light of Aria wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you
who're already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the
TV programmes you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the
duration of the programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what
bit rate they're using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the
audio? --
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



Does it have [B[b][C] DOG **** on the picture and ****-voices?



No idea, cos the BBC is limiting the number of people that can use it - so
much for their much vaunted "launch" on 27th July...


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info




Any answer to my question please?

[B[b][C] DOG **** on the picture and ****-voices or are the programmes
un-damaged?



Dom Robinson August 2nd 07 08:22 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
In article , says...

"Nick Austin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:19:34 GMT, "AC" wrote:

Do any of these sites have the program about India that Sanjeev
whats
his name did the other night?


http://www.uknova.com/wsgi/torrent/view/47271

Nick.


Ah, its a sign up site. No ta.

But, I will believe that the torrent is there.

Sign-up to a site or download a piece of bloatware from the BBC? No contest.

However, just for you:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/821025
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Geoff Pearson August 2nd 07 09:27 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 

"David Pitt" wrote in message
...
In message
"Geoff Pearson" wrote:


"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you who're
already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the TV
programmes
you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the duration of the
programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what bit rate they're
using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the audio?


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I can't get anything to download - it keeps telling me to download the
iplayer - which I have done 10 times.


Has the Kontiki ActiveX been loaded. It appears in IE in a not very
noticeable tool bar.

--
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Computing with RISC OS.


KHost.exe is running - where would this toolbar be?



Dom Robinson August 2nd 07 10:16 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
In article ,
says...

"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you who're
already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the TV programmes
you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the duration of the
programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what bit rate they're
using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the audio?


--
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www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info


I can't get anything to download - it keeps telling me to download the
iplayer - which I have done 10 times.

One wonders why you bothered to download it the once.
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/* 1134 DVDs, 350 games, 338 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news
/* alfie, flatout 3, last king of scotland, life & lyrics, activision psp
New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml
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Dom Robinson August 2nd 07 10:35 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
In article ,
says...
In article , {$mrtickle$}
@nospam.demon.co.uk says...
In , "AC" wrote:


"Nick Austin" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:19:34 GMT, "AC" wrote:

Do any of these sites have the program about India that Sanjeev
whats
his name did the other night?

http://www.uknova.com/wsgi/torrent/view/47271

Nick.


Ah, its a sign up site.


Yes of course, as Dom mentioned in the post you replied to. The best
torrent sites are often like that.

No ta.


Cut your nose off to spite your face if you must!

But, I will believe that the torrent is there.


It is indeed there in excellent quality with 127 seeders as I type this.


UK Nova is lightning fast. He really is cutting off his nose.....

He's totally Danniella Westbrook! :)
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/* alfie, flatout 3, last king of scotland, life & lyrics, activision psp
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David Pitt August 3rd 07 08:40 AM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
In message
"Geoff Pearson" wrote:


"David Pitt" wrote in message
...
In message
"Geoff Pearson" wrote:


"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Now that the BBC iPlayer has launched in beta, could some of you who're
already using the iPlayer say what the file sizes are of the TV
programmes
you've downloaded so far please, and also say what the duration of the
programme is in minutes so that I can calculate what bit rate they're
using for the programmes?

Also, are the files all using WMV for the video and WMA for the audio?


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info


I can't get anything to download - it keeps telling me to download the
iplayer - which I have done 10 times.


Has the Kontiki ActiveX been loaded. It appears in IE in a not very
noticeable tool bar.


KHost.exe is running - where would this toolbar be?


See IE's help, ActiveX controls, Information bar.

I missed it the first few times around and got the "download iPlayer
again" run around. I found a note about Kontiki on the iPlayer message
board.


--
David Pitt.

Computing with RISC OS.

Adrian C August 3rd 07 08:00 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
Dom Robinson wrote:
Sign-up to a site or download a piece of bloatware from the BBC? No contest.


The Kontiki software takes about 5-6MB of disk space - hardly bloat
these days ;-)

--
Adrian C

DAB sounds worse than FM August 4th 07 02:15 AM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
Adrian C wrote:
Dom Robinson wrote:
Sign-up to a site or download a piece of bloatware from the BBC? No
contest.


The Kontiki software takes about 5-6MB of disk space - hardly bloat
these days ;-)



Maybe not, but it seems to crash on my PC every other day ever since I
installed 4oD (Kservice.exe or something like that isn't it?).


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info



DVDfever Dom August 4th 07 02:24 AM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
On 4 Aug, 01:15, "DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:
Adrian C wrote:
Dom Robinson wrote:
Sign-up to a site or download a piece of bloatware from the BBC? No
contest.


The Kontiki software takes about 5-6MB of disk space - hardly bloat
these days ;-)


Maybe not, but it seems to crash on my PC every other day ever since I
installed 4oD (Kservice.exe or something like that isn't it?).


Why does anyone download these things from TV companies? If they all
used the same software..... then I still wouldn't, but anyway.


Adrian C August 4th 07 04:31 PM

BBC iPlayer programme file sizes
 
DVDfever Dom wrote:

Why does anyone download these things from TV companies? If they all
used the same software..... then I still wouldn't, but anyway.


Er, they do use the same software - BBC iplayer, 4oD and SkyAnytime all
basically use Kontiki. However, it's packaging where the flaws are...
You land up with an unstable Windows machine with repeated instances of
the same software if you want all services :-(

At the moment it takes technical workarounds, ISP co operation, messing
about and the realization that this is all still buggy "in beta" - and
won't be ready for the general public until someone defines some
industry standards or virtualisation OS technology becomes commonplace
in consumer PC hardware.

That's not going to happen anytime soon, and with the piracy problems I
sadly don't think UK broadcasters are going to be there for the distance
without burning a lot of money to protect their copyrights.

Doomed ;-(

(but me enjoying the Iplayer trial anyway :-)

--
Adrian C


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