OT - Ofcom admits DAB sound quality isn't good enough
 

no_spam" "andy(no_spam)wilkins wrote:
What has this got to do with digital TV, the subject of the newsgroup?


What do you think 'OT' stands for?


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OT - Ofcom admits DAB sound quality isn't good enough
 

The solution is DON'T BUY A DAB RADIO and make sure that the people you know
don't buy one either and don't listen to it. Tell the broadcasts and Ofcom
to go take a flying leap into the Thames.


"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
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http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/ar...ood-enough.php

Ofcom's Director of Radio & Multimedia, Peter Davies, has said:

"I don't think the sound quality [on DAB] is good enough."

But he then goes on to say that they can't tell the broadcasters what bit
rate levels to use (err, of course they can, they're the bloody
regulators), and what he failed to mention was that under his leadership
he's allowed the bit rates to be reduced to 112 kbps (all of the stereo
stations on the new national DAB multiplex that will launch next summer
will use 112 kbps, whereas the current minimum bit rate used for stereo
stations is 128 kbps) and there were no music stations broadcasting in
mono on DAB before Ofcom came into being, but now there's loads of mono
music stations on DAB.

Overall, the audio quality is as bad as it is BECAUSE of the regulation -
the BBC wouldn't have used lower bit rates than commercial radio - because
the Radio Authority, which regulated radio before Ofcom, set the minimum
bit rate for stereo stations to be 128 kbps in the first place, which is
the main problem with DAB's sound quality, and Ofcom has carried on
allowing the audio quality to be degraded further still.



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OT - Ofcom admits DAB sound quality isn't good enough
 

On Jul 25, 8:19 pm, no_spam
wrote:
What has this got to do with digital TV, the subject of the newsgroup?

Digital Freeview carries a range of stations
that are also un/available on DAB. I don't
know how the range of stations compares but
Steve did start off talking about how the
BBC are degrading the audio quality across
the range (i.e., through Freeview and the
digital cable/satellite subscription packs)
in order to try to make DAB sound good...

....it's not actually quite so unconnected as
it may seem, albeit he is hamming the whole
DAB thing to the rafters in various places
just at the moment.

Perhaps it's time to raise a charter for
uk.tech.digital-radio?

Or perhaps alt.flame.DAB might be a better
way to go...

G DAEB

COPYRIGHT (C) 2007 SIPSTON
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OT - Ofcom admits DAB sound quality isn't good enough
 

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Agamemnon wrote:
The solution is DON'T BUY A DAB RADIO and make sure that the people you
know don't buy one either and don't listen to it.

What if they want to listen to a station not on FM?

Tell the broadcasts and Ofcom to go take a flying leap into the Thames.

Very good. You think they'll obey you?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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OT - Ofcom admits DAB sound quality isn't good enough
 

FCS wrote:
On Jul 25, 8:19 pm, no_spam
wrote:
What has this got to do with digital TV, the subject of the
newsgroup?

Digital Freeview carries a range of stations
that are also un/available on DAB. I don't
know how the range of stations compares but
Steve did start off talking about how the
BBC are degrading the audio quality across
the range (i.e., through Freeview and the
digital cable/satellite subscription packs)
in order to try to make DAB sound good...

...it's not actually quite so unconnected as
it may seem, albeit he is hamming the whole
DAB thing to the rafters in various places
just at the moment.


I very rarely post in groups other than this one, alt.radio.digital and
uk.media.tv.misc. I very, very rarely post about DAB in uk.media.tv.misc,
although I did use DAB as an example a couple of days ago to show why the
BBC isn't as honest as someone thought they were. You then tried to take me
to task on what I wrote, but unfortunately you confused reception quality
and audio quality, which meant that all the points you were trying to make
weren't actually relevant.


Perhaps it's time to raise a charter for
uk.tech.digital-radio?


I don't think that's a bad idea, although there's already alt.radio.digital,
but I think more people would find the group you've mentioned.



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Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

OT - Ofcom admits DAB sound quality isn't good enough
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Agamemnon wrote:
The solution is DON'T BUY A DAB RADIO and make sure that the people you
know don't buy one either and don't listen to it.

What if they want to listen to a station not on FM?

Then the station will go bust, and once all of the digital only stations go
bust either the bandwidth will be used to improve the quality of the
simulcast stations or the DTT platform will go bust too. Lets just see how
many people will advertise an a station that everybody refuses to listen
too.


Tell the broadcasts and Ofcom to go take a flying leap into the Thames.

Very good. You think they'll obey you?

To tell that to the broadcasters and Ofcom or to take a flying leap?


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Dave Plowman London SW
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OT - Ofcom admits DAB sound quality isn't good enough
 

In article ,
Agamemnon wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Agamemnon wrote:
The solution is DON'T BUY A DAB RADIO and make sure that the people
you know don't buy one either and don't listen to it.

What if they want to listen to a station not on FM?

Then the station will go bust, and once all of the digital only stations
go bust either the bandwidth will be used to improve the quality of the
simulcast stations or the DTT platform will go bust too. Lets just see
how many people will advertise an a station that everybody refuses to
listen too.

The *vast* majority who have bought DAB radios are satisfied with the
quality. Or have you figures for Argos returns?

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*I'm already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

OT - Ofcom admits DAB sound quality isn't good enough
 

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:55:55 GMT, DAB sounds worse than FM [email protected] wrote:

What do you think 'OT' stands for?

Outside toilet?

OT - Ofcom admits DAB sound quality isn't good enough
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Agamemnon wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Agamemnon wrote:
The solution is DON'T BUY A DAB RADIO and make sure that the people
you know don't buy one either and don't listen to it.

What if they want to listen to a station not on FM?

Then the station will go bust, and once all of the digital only stations
go bust either the bandwidth will be used to improve the quality of the
simulcast stations or the DTT platform will go bust too. Lets just see
how many people will advertise an a station that everybody refuses to
listen too.

The *vast* majority who have bought DAB radios are satisfied with the
quality. Or have you figures for Argos returns?


So the stupids are satisfied with crap. What do you expect from stupids.
Lets not be like them.

OT - Ofcom admits DAB sound quality isn't good enough
 

In article ,
Agamemnon wrote:
The *vast* majority who have bought DAB radios are satisfied with the
quality. Or have you figures for Argos returns?

So the stupids are satisfied with crap. What do you expect from stupids.
Lets not be like them.

As an alternative to AM reception it has its uses. And to FM also under
some conditions. Until you are forced to use it through FM broadcasts
being stopped this continual harping on strikes as evangelism.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.