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Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
The other day I bought a Humax freeview box. Seems to work ok.
Something I've noticed though is that the BBC and ITV seem to broadcast their main channels in a semi letterbox format with fat black borders at the top and bottom. I'm presuming this is for all those rich sods with widescreen TVs but what about us lot who still have a normal TV? Why should we be expected put up with a picture thats smaller than its analogue equivalent? Fine , for now we can just switch back to analogue , but what happens when analogue goes? Are the powers that be in the media expecting us to all buy widescreen TVs now too? B2003 |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Boltar wrote:
The other day I bought a Humax freeview box. Seems to work ok. Something I've noticed though is that the BBC and ITV seem to broadcast their main channels in a semi letterbox format with fat black borders at the top and bottom. I'm presuming this is for all those rich sods with widescreen TVs but what about us lot who still have a normal TV? Why should we be expected put up with a picture thats smaller than its analogue equivalent? Fine , for now we can just switch back to analogue , but what happens when analogue goes? Are the powers that be in the media expecting us to all buy widescreen TVs now too? Is there a setting for 4:3 or letterbox on your decoder? -- Alex "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"Boltar" wrote in message ups.com... The other day I bought a Humax freeview box. Seems to work ok. Something I've noticed though is that the BBC and ITV seem to broadcast their main channels in a semi letterbox format with fat black borders at the top and bottom. I'm presuming this is for all those rich sods with widescreen TVs but what about us lot who still have a normal TV? Why should we be expected put up with a picture thats smaller than its analogue equivalent? Fine , for now we can just switch back to analogue , but what happens when analogue goes? Are the powers that be in the media expecting us to all buy widescreen TVs now too? no, they expect you to bother to read the manual that came with your freeview box and switch your box to 4:3 output. -- Gareth. That fly... is your magic wand. http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/ |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"Boltar" wrote in message ups.com... The other day I bought a Humax freeview box. Seems to work ok. Something I've noticed though is that the BBC and ITV seem to broadcast their main channels in a semi letterbox format with fat black borders at the top and bottom. I'm presuming this is for all those rich sods with widescreen TVs but what about us lot who still have a normal TV? It is 14:9 - a sort of compromise. Why should we be expected put up with a picture thats smaller than its analogue equivalent? Fine , for now we can just switch back to analogue , but what happens when analogue goes? Are the powers that be in the media expecting us to all buy widescreen TVs now too? Most receiver boxes allow you to choose the aspect ratio of the output. RTFM B2003 |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"Boltar" wrote in message
ups.com... The other day I bought a Humax freeview box. Seems to work ok. Something I've noticed though is that the BBC and ITV seem to broadcast their main channels in a semi letterbox format with fat black borders at the top and bottom. I'm presuming this is for all those rich sods with widescreen TVs but what about us lot who still have a normal TV? Why should we be expected put up with a picture thats smaller than its analogue equivalent? Fine , for now we can just switch back to analogue , but what happens when analogue goes? Are the powers that be in the media expecting us to all buy widescreen TVs now too? Press the 'wide' button on your remote (or whatever it's called on yours). It should cycle between 16:9, 14:9 and 4:3 (assuming your box is configured for a 4:3 TV - usually it's the default). -- Max Demian |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
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Boltar wrote: The other day I bought a Humax freeview box. Seems to work ok. Something I've noticed though is that the BBC and ITV seem to broadcast their main channels in a semi letterbox format with fat black borders at the top and bottom. I'm presuming this is for all those rich sods with widescreen TVs but what about us lot who still have a normal TV? Why should we be expected put up with a picture thats smaller than its analogue equivalent? Fine , for now we can just switch back to analogue , but what happens when analogue goes? Are the powers that be in the media expecting us to all buy widescreen TVs now too? Just think of those poor sods who've paid out good money for widescreen only to discover older 4:3 stuff is still 4:3. -- *Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Boltar wrote: The other day I bought a Humax freeview box. Seems to work ok. Something I've noticed though is that the BBC and ITV seem to broadcast their main channels in a semi letterbox format with fat black borders at the top and bottom. I'm presuming this is for all those rich sods with widescreen TVs but what about us lot who still have a normal TV? Why should we be expected put up with a picture thats smaller than its analogue equivalent? Fine , for now we can just switch back to analogue , but what happens when analogue goes? Are the powers that be in the media expecting us to all buy widescreen TVs now too? Is there a setting for 4:3 or letterbox on your decoder? Probably, but the *******ised version of 14:9 is default for displaying 16:9 on a 4:3 set according to the DTT specs. My Topfield is running old firmware to enable me to select full letterbox (which is how I like it) but there is an option to display a centre cut out of widescreen broadcast on a 4:3 set. This is from a Humax manual: A/V Control 3. Screen Ratio You can set the aspect ratio of your TV. 1. Select Screen Ratio using the button, and press the OK or button. 2. Select one option from 4:3 or 16:9 using the button, and press the OK button. Note: If 2 options are provided, you can switch the option at a time using the OK button. Namely, Whenever you press the OK button, Screen Ratio is switched between 4:3 and 16:9. 4. Display Format You can select the Display Format according to TV Screen Ratio. 1. Select Display Format using the button, and press the OK or button. 2. If the Screen Ratio is set to 4:3, you can select one from Auto/Letter box/Center Mode using the button, and press the OK button. 3. If the Screen Ratio is set to 16:9, you can select one from Auto/Pillar box/Full mode using the button, and press the OK button. -- Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks" |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:32:53 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote: Just think of those poor sods who've paid out good money for widescreen only to discover older 4:3 stuff is still 4:3. If only that were true all the time. Some broadcasters make 16:9 out of 4:3 by unceremoniously chopping off a large lump of the top and bottom of the original picture thus completely buggering the original shot composition. They seem to think this is acceptable. Most of the time it is not. |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message
... On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:32:53 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Just think of those poor sods who've paid out good money for widescreen only to discover older 4:3 stuff is still 4:3. If only that were true all the time. Some broadcasters make 16:9 out of 4:3 by unceremoniously chopping off a large lump of the top and bottom of the original picture thus completely buggering the original shot composition. They seem to think this is acceptable. Most of the time it is not. Especially if you have a 4:3 set and chop off the sides as well. -- Max Demian |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
On 14 Jul, 18:50, "the dog from that film you saw"
wrote: "Boltar" wrote in message ups.com... The other day I bought a Humax freeview box. Seems to work ok. Something I've noticed though is that the BBC and ITV seem to broadcast their main channels in a semi letterbox format with fat black borders at the top and bottom. I'm presuming this is for all those rich sods with widescreen TVs but what about us lot who still have a normal TV? Why should we be expected put up with a picture thats smaller than its analogue equivalent? Fine , for now we can just switch back to analogue , but what happens when analogue goes? Are the powers that be in the media expecting us to all buy widescreen TVs now too? no, they expect you to bother to read the manual that came with your freeview box and switch your box to 4:3 output. When I do that it either, depending on the option, distorts the picture or chops the sides off. Hardly ideal. Wouldn't it be better if the broadcasters broadcast 4:3 on normal TV channels and left the wannabe cinematic stuff to any HDTV channels that come along? B2003 |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Boltar wrote:
On 14 Jul, 18:50, "the dog from that film you saw" wrote: "Boltar" wrote in message ups.com... The other day I bought a Humax freeview box. Seems to work ok. Something I've noticed though is that the BBC and ITV seem to broadcast their main channels in a semi letterbox format with fat black borders at the top and bottom. I'm presuming this is for all those rich sods with widescreen TVs but what about us lot who still have a normal TV? Why should we be expected put up with a picture thats smaller than its analogue equivalent? Fine , for now we can just switch back to analogue , but what happens when analogue goes? Are the powers that be in the media expecting us to all buy widescreen TVs now too? no, they expect you to bother to read the manual that came with your freeview box and switch your box to 4:3 output. When I do that it either, depending on the option, distorts the picture or chops the sides off. Hardly ideal. Wouldn't it be better if the broadcasters broadcast 4:3 on normal TV channels and left the wannabe cinematic stuff to any HDTV channels that come along? B2003 Why should everyone else put up with 4:3 just to suit you? |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
In article . com,
Boltar wrote: On 14 Jul, 18:50, "the dog from that film you saw" wrote: no, they expect you to bother to read the manual that came with your freeview box and switch your box to 4:3 output. When I do that it either, depending on the option, distorts the picture or chops the sides off. Hardly ideal. Wouldn't it be better if the broadcasters broadcast 4:3 on normal TV channels and left the wannabe cinematic stuff to any HDTV channels that come along? Since you asked for my opinion: No, it wouldn't. :-) Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Boltar wrote:
On 14 Jul, 18:50, "the dog from that film you saw" wrote: "Boltar" wrote in message ups.com... The other day I bought a Humax freeview box. Seems to work ok. Something I've noticed though is that the BBC and ITV seem to broadcast their main channels in a semi letterbox format with fat black borders at the top and bottom. I'm presuming this is for all those rich sods with widescreen TVs but what about us lot who still have a normal TV? Why should we be expected put up with a picture thats smaller than its analogue equivalent? Fine , for now we can just switch back to analogue , but what happens when analogue goes? Are the powers that be in the media expecting us to all buy widescreen TVs now too? no, they expect you to bother to read the manual that came with your freeview box and switch your box to 4:3 output. When I do that it either, depending on the option, distorts the picture or chops the sides off. Hardly ideal. Wouldn't it be better if the broadcasters broadcast 4:3 on normal TV channels and left the wannabe cinematic stuff to any HDTV channels that come along? Hell no. I prefered a widescreen image where every part of the scene is visible even back when I had a 4:3 set , and while I don't have any figures I'd be surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. If there was bandwidth available it would probably make sense to have a 4:3 version of some channels available but as there isn't , it doesn't -- Alex "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"Boltar" wrote in message ups.com... no, they expect you to bother to read the manual that came with your freeview box and switch your box to 4:3 output. When I do that it either, depending on the option, distorts the picture or chops the sides off. Hardly ideal. Wouldn't it be better if the broadcasters broadcast 4:3 on normal TV channels and left the wannabe cinematic stuff to any HDTV channels that come along? of course it chops the sides off - the shows are filmed in widescreen so if you dont want them that way how else are they supposed to make them 4:3. just try finding a 4:3 tv on sale in the shops - digital tv has been widescreen for years. -- Gareth. That fly... is your magic wand. http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/ |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message ... Hell no. I prefered a widescreen image where every part of the scene is visible even back when I had a 4:3 set , and while I don't have any figures I'd be surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. If there was bandwidth available it would probably make sense to have a 4:3 version of some channels available but as there isn't , it doesn't and even if they did broadcast a 4:3 channel, it would still be the 'chopped' version. -- Gareth. That fly... is your magic wand. http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/ |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
On 15 Jul, 16:39, "Adrian A" wrote:
Why should everyone else put up with 4:3 just to suit you? Who's everyone else? That tiny tiny percentage of people who have widescreen compared to the vast majority of the population who have standard TVs? B2003 |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
On 15 Jul, 17:30, "Dr Zoidberg"
wrote: surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. Are you for real? I don't know a single person who owns a widescreen TV. Where do you live , Sloane Square? B2003 |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
On 15 Jul, 17:35, "the dog from that film you saw"
wrote: of course it chops the sides off - the shows are filmed in widescreen so if you dont want them that way how else are they supposed to make them 4:3. They could broadcast 4:3 signals or was that too obvious a solution? just try finding a 4:3 tv on sale in the shops - digital tv has been widescreen for years. Well that'll be ****ing useful when analogue switches off. Are we all supposed to fork out for a widescreen set or just watch a picture that effectively reduces the size of our screens by a third? Oh , but wait , I forgot the digital switchover is all about money and the people who have it and has sod all to do with making life better for most of the population. B2003 |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"Boltar" wrote in message oups.com... On 15 Jul, 16:39, "Adrian A" wrote: Why should everyone else put up with 4:3 just to suit you? Who's everyone else? That tiny tiny percentage of people who have widescreen compared to the vast majority of the population who have standard TVs? and then everyone realised it was the emperor/whatsisface guy with a new username. -- Gareth. That fly... is your magic wand. http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/ |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Boltar wrote:
On 15 Jul, 17:30, "Dr Zoidberg" wrote: surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. Are you for real? I don't know a single person who owns a widescreen TV. Where do you live , Sloane Square? Hello Half-wit. I only know two people that don't have a widescreen -- Alex "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Boltar wrote:
On 15 Jul, 17:35, "the dog from that film you saw" wrote: of course it chops the sides off - the shows are filmed in widescreen so if you dont want them that way how else are they supposed to make them 4:3. They could broadcast 4:3 signals or was that too obvious a solution? And 4:3 signals have just had the sides chopped off by the broadcasters. just try finding a 4:3 tv on sale in the shops - digital tv has been widescreen for years. Well that'll be ****ing useful when analogue switches off. Are we all supposed to fork out for a widescreen set or just watch a picture that effectively reduces the size of our screens by a third? As has been pointed out , you can just set the decoder to display a 4:3 image -- Alex "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
In article .com,
Boltar writes On 15 Jul, 17:30, "Dr Zoidberg" wrote: surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. Are you for real? I don't know a single person who owns a widescreen TV. Where do you live , Sloane Square? Where do you get the idea that only Sloane Rangers can afford 180 GBP for a 28" wide-screen TV? Perhaps you 'think' that the only wide-screen TVs are 42" "HD (not quite) ready" IDTV plasma TVs, you would be mistaken! -- Ian G8ILZ There are always two people in every pictu the photographer and the viewer. ~Ansel Adams |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
In article .com,
Boltar writes On 15 Jul, 17:35, "the dog from that film you saw" wrote: of course it chops the sides off - the shows are filmed in widescreen so if you dont want them that way how else are they supposed to make them 4:3. They could broadcast 4:3 signals or was that too obvious a solution? Then they would be chopping the sides off. And whilst we are at it; we can dispense with the wasteful colour, it takes more bandwidth and TX power; as for 625 lines, it's far, far too much, all you need is 30!! just try finding a 4:3 tv on sale in the shops - digital tv has been widescreen for years. Well that'll be ****ing useful when analogue switches off. Are we all supposed to fork out for a widescreen set or just watch a picture that effectively reduces the size of our screens by a third? No, you could always chop off the extra bits at the side which you didn't have before, and when your TV wears-out replace it with something made for the 21st century. -- Ian G8ILZ There are always two people in every pictu the photographer and the viewer. ~Ansel Adams |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
On 15 Jul, 19:23, "Dr Zoidberg"
wrote: Boltar wrote: On 15 Jul, 17:30, "Dr Zoidberg" wrote: surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. Are you for real? I don't know a single person who owns a widescreen TV. Where do you live , Sloane Square? Hello Half-wit. I only know two people that don't have a widescreen You should share that fascinating fact next time your down at Henley swilling the champers in the Bentley what what old chap. B2003 |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:21:21 -0700, Boltar wrote:
On 15 Jul, 17:35, "the dog from that film you saw" wrote: of course it chops the sides off - the shows are filmed in widescreen so if you dont want them that way how else are they supposed to make them 4:3. They could broadcast 4:3 signals or was that too obvious a solution? You really are clueless, is being thick a hobby of yours. If they were to 'broadcast 4:3' they would simply be chopping the sides off! just try finding a 4:3 tv on sale in the shops - digital tv has been widescreen for years. Well that'll be ****ing useful when analogue switches off. Are we all supposed to fork out for a widescreen set or just watch a picture that effectively reduces the size of our screens by a third? Oh , but wait , I forgot the digital switchover is all about money and the people who have it and has sod all to do with making life better for most of the population. B2003 You could just put up with 4:3 centre-cut-out or watch films or non- 4:3 or 14:9 safe material in letterbox and get used to the better ratio. -- 60 day free DVD rental: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/dvd http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/NGN-use-by-GPs http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/signage |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Boltar wrote:
On 15 Jul, 16:39, "Adrian A" wrote: Why should everyone else put up with 4:3 just to suit you? Who's everyone else? That tiny tiny percentage of people who have widescreen compared to the vast majority of the population who have standard TVs? I prefer to watch the stuff in the intended aspect ratio, even on a 4:3. I would much rather see the whole frame, rather than worry about a bit of blank screen. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:17:55 -0700, Boltar wrote:
On 15 Jul, 17:30, "Dr Zoidberg" wrote: surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. Are you for real? I don't know a single person who owns a widescreen TV. Where do you live , Sloane Square? B2003 I don't know a single person who doesn't have a widescreen TV. I bought mine back in 1997. -- 60 day free DVD rental: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/dvd http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/NGN-use-by-GPs http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/signage |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:17:55 -0700, Boltar wrote: On 15 Jul, 17:30, "Dr Zoidberg" wrote: surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. Are you for real? I don't know a single person who owns a widescreen TV. Where do you live , Sloane Square? B2003 I don't know a single person who doesn't have a widescreen TV. I bought mine back in 1997. Mine was in 1999 , paid for from the windfall I got when Centrica bought The AA -- Alex "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Boltar wrote:
On 15 Jul, 19:23, "Dr Zoidberg" wrote: Boltar wrote: On 15 Jul, 17:30, "Dr Zoidberg" wrote: surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. Are you for real? I don't know a single person who owns a widescreen TV. Where do you live , Sloane Square? Hello Half-wit. I only know two people that don't have a widescreen You should share that fascinating fact next time your down at Henley swilling the champers in the Bentley what what old chap. Well , technically Bentley is now part of the VW group as is Skoda , so perhaps my Octavia is a relative of the Bentley -- Alex "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:02:08 +0100, Dr Zoidberg wrote:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:17:55 -0700, Boltar wrote: On 15 Jul, 17:30, "Dr Zoidberg" wrote: surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. Are you for real? I don't know a single person who owns a widescreen TV. Where do you live , Sloane Square? B2003 I don't know a single person who doesn't have a widescreen TV. I bought mine back in 1997. Mine was in 1999 , paid for from the windfall I got when Centrica bought The AA I got mine 55% off the usual shop price (which was less than the RRP, though we know that RRPs are loaded, so shops can knock money off), I think they made a mistake as the price they were selling it for was pretty low, it was a display model, but they were selling me the pro-logic version yet the details they had were for a non-pro-logic version. -- 60 day free DVD rental: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/dvd http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/NGN-use-by-GPs http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/signage |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Boltar wrote:
On 15 Jul, 16:39, "Adrian A" wrote: Why should everyone else put up with 4:3 just to suit you? Who's everyone else? That tiny tiny percentage of people who have widescreen compared to the vast majority of the population who have standard TVs? B2003 Absolute nonsense! The majority of set these days are widescreen, 4:3 sets are a rapidly decreasing minority. |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"Boltar" wrote in message ups.com... The other day I bought a Humax freeview box. Seems to work ok. Something I've noticed though is that the BBC and ITV seem to broadcast their main channels in a semi letterbox format with fat black borders at the top and bottom. I'm presuming this is for all those rich sods with widescreen TVs but what about us lot who still have a normal TV? Why should we be expected put up with a picture thats smaller than its analogue equivalent? Fine , for now we can just switch back to analogue , but what happens when analogue goes? Are the powers that be in the media expecting us to all buy widescreen TVs now too? Get a box that you can set up up to do what you want, all my boxes can be set to get that. -- Regards, David Please reply to News Group |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Boltar wrote:
On 15 Jul, 17:30, "Dr Zoidberg" wrote: surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. Are you for real? I don't know a single person who owns a widescreen TV. Where do you live , Sloane Square? B2003 I'm begining to think you're either a troll or you don't have many friends. |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Boltar wrote: On 15 Jul, 17:30, "Dr Zoidberg" wrote: surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. Are you for real? I don't know a single person who owns a widescreen TV. Where do you live , Sloane Square? Hello Half-wit. I only know two people that don't have a widescreen I wondered if it was Half-wit but I didn't think he posted from google groups. |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
Set your humax box, in the menus, for a 14x9 pic. That will be exactly
the same as the analogue pic which BBC and ITV use most of the time as a compromise. I agree with everone else, though. Its much better to set the box to letterbox and see the whole of the programme, whether it is a 4x3 one or a 16x9. I dispair with those who will insist on stretching 4x3 material to fill a widescreen tv, though. Either they dont notice (about 80% ) or they dont care (about 20%). On the other hand, I very regularly have the conversation with customers who have 4x3 TVs, that they dont want a widescreen TV because they "make everyone short and fat". A very large percentage of the households I visit have at least one item of equipment (Sky box, Freeview box or DVD) set to generate 4x3 when they have a 16x9 TV. Some are grateful to have the correct settings and auto switching and many complain that they don't want square pictures. It was always obvious you wouldn't win when it comes to widescreen. |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"the dog from that film you saw" wrote in message ... "Boltar" wrote in message oups.com... On 15 Jul, 16:39, "Adrian A" wrote: Why should everyone else put up with 4:3 just to suit you? Who's everyone else? That tiny tiny percentage of people who have widescreen compared to the vast majority of the population who have standard TVs? and then everyone realised it was the emperor/whatsisface guy with a new username. and then everyone realised you were wrong because I know it not him -- Gareth. That fly... is your magic wand. http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/ |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in message . uk... On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:17:55 -0700, Boltar wrote: On 15 Jul, 17:30, "Dr Zoidberg" wrote: surprised if the majority of households don't have a widescreen set for at least their main TV. Are you for real? I don't know a single person who owns a widescreen TV. Where do you live , Sloane Square? B2003 I don't know a single person who doesn't have a widescreen TV. I bought mine back in 1997. It must have been exciting waiting to a widescreen program to be broadcast, still I am sure it impressed the neighbours nonetheless. Did you have it on display in the window in your front room, or did you parade around town with it strapped to the top of your porsche? -- 60 day free DVD rental: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/dvd http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/NGN-use-by-GPs http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/signage |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"Max Demian" wrote in message ... "Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message ... On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:32:53 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Just think of those poor sods who've paid out good money for widescreen only to discover older 4:3 stuff is still 4:3. If only that were true all the time. Some broadcasters make 16:9 out of 4:3 by unceremoniously chopping off a large lump of the top and bottom of the original picture thus completely buggering the original shot composition. They seem to think this is acceptable. Most of the time it is not. Especially if you have a 4:3 set and chop off the sides as well. Surely you could sue the government under the human rights act. I am sure there is something about punishment without a fair trial. -- Max Demian |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
"widgitt" wrote in message ups.com... Set your humax box, in the menus, for a 14x9 pic. That will be exactly the same as the analogue pic which BBC and ITV use most of the time as a compromise. I agree with everone else, though. Its much better to set the box to letterbox and see the whole of the programme, whether it is a 4x3 one or a 16x9. I dispair with those who will insist on stretching 4x3 material to fill a widescreen tv, though. Either they dont notice (about 80% ) or they dont care (about 20%). It's because black bars look f*cking ugly. Also they paid for a certain number of lines on their TV and consquently expect to see something on them. I mean if you paid to have some photographs taken and then found that theree were great big ugly black bars left right and centre you would not be too happy. I am sure an explaination of "It's widescreen innit" would not go down too well. Or maybe it would? On the other hand, I very regularly have the conversation with customers who have 4x3 TVs, that they dont want a widescreen TV because they "make everyone short and fat". A very large percentage of the households I visit have at least one item of equipment (Sky box, Freeview box or DVD) set to generate 4x3 when they have a 16x9 TV. Some are grateful to have the correct settings and auto switching and many complain that they don't want square pictures. It was always obvious you wouldn't win when it comes to widescreen. Thats cos it's cr*p. You may make a living out of selling the cr*p but 99% of the population don't have that vested interest. |
Annoying semi-letterbox format on main freeview channels
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