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Paul Kelly[_2_] July 13th 07 12:32 AM

PVR 9200 TB/S
 
In message , Mike Henry
writes

(snip)
(Not wanting to proselytise TiVo yet again, but the majority of its
users do stop watching live TV. Once a Season Pass has been set up then
boringly there is nothing more to do. Everything's a recording selected
from a menu. Even the live events I do watch (sport) is again recorded
from a Season Pass I set up many years ago.)

This brings me to a quandary that I often muse about. If you are busy
watching what you think you want to watch how do you find out about the
things you do want to watch but do not know about until you see them?
For instance how would one discover "The Office", "Spooks", "Cold Feet"
- just to name a few - if you never watched them.
--
PK
Remove the xtra y from my name in the email address if replying

Max Demian July 13th 07 09:52 AM

PVR 9200 TB/S
 
"Paul Kelly" wrote in message
...
In message , Mike Henry
writes

(snip)
(Not wanting to proselytise TiVo yet again, but the majority of its
users do stop watching live TV. Once a Season Pass has been set up then
boringly there is nothing more to do. Everything's a recording selected
from a menu. Even the live events I do watch (sport) is again recorded
from a Season Pass I set up many years ago.)

This brings me to a quandary that I often muse about. If you are busy
watching what you think you want to watch how do you find out about the
things you do want to watch but do not know about until you see them? For
instance how would one discover "The Office", "Spooks", "Cold Feet" - just
to name a few - if you never watched them.


Apparently the original TiVo could divine this and recorded the programmes
automatically.

--
Max Demian



Max Demian July 13th 07 09:46 PM

PVR 9200 TB/S
 
"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...
In , Paul Kelly
wrote:
In message , Mike Henry
writes

(snip)
(Not wanting to proselytise TiVo yet again, but the majority of its
users do stop watching live TV. Once a Season Pass has been set up then
boringly there is nothing more to do. Everything's a recording selected
from a menu. Even the live events I do watch (sport) is again recorded
from a Season Pass I set up many years ago.)

This brings me to a quandary that I often muse about. If you are busy
watching what you think you want to watch how do you find out about the
things you do want to watch but do not know about until you see them?
For instance how would one discover "The Office", "Spooks", "Cold Feet"
- just to name a few - if you never watched them.


As Max says, in the case of TiVo you've got a cool Suggestions feature
which fills spare disc space with programmes which are similar to other
programmes you like (scored across title, genre, actors etc). I
discovered several series this way that I would never have otherwise
watched, including brilliant gems tucked away in the middle of the night
like the short "Forklift Driver Klaus" which C4 showed as part of their
Shooting Gallery series.


Actually I was being slightly satirical in my reply.

I'm certainly sceptical about how good the TiVo is (or was) in divining your
tastes, and would have thought that it would soon fill your HD with all
sorts of stuff that you wouldn't want, especially as the early TiVos must
have had restricted HD space.

As with junk mail, I would either find that most of it is irrelevant, or, if
it *was* relevant, annoyed that it was so intrusive as to know what I want.

There have been quite a few series in the past I have missed for one reason
or another, and I suspect that it was off-putting publicity at the time as
much as missing the publicity.

--
Max Demian



Ivan July 15th 07 01:15 AM

PVR 9200 TB/S
 

"Ivan" wrote in message
. uk...
I've just impulse bought a Humax PVR 9200 TB/S (which I collect tomorrow)
I'm now beginning to wonder if I've done the right thing, however I
believe a number of people on this newsgroup have mentioned in the past
that they have this particular model and wonder if any of them would be
good enough pass on any good or bad points they have encountered TIA.

PS it will mean certain death for me if it fails to record Coro or
Eastenders!






I was labouring under the misapprehension that it would be possible to
download recorded programmes from the PVR hard drive on to my computer, so
that I could burn a DVD.

Wrong!.. apparently it only allows me to download MP3 and JPEG via USB 'from
the computer' to the PVR.

Does anyone have any clues, the only way I can see is for the composite
video out to be fed into a capture card on my PC, unless I'm missing
something.



Matti Lamprhey[_2_] July 15th 07 01:22 AM

PVR 9200 TB/S
 
"Ivan" wrote...
"Ivan" wrote...
I've just impulse bought a Humax PVR 9200 TB/S (which I collect
tomorrow) I'm now beginning to wonder if I've done the right thing,
however I believe a number of people on this newsgroup have mentioned
in the past that they have this particular model and wonder if any of
them would be good enough pass on any good or bad points they have
encountered TIA.

PS it will mean certain death for me if it fails to record Coro or
Eastenders!


I was labouring under the misapprehension that it would be possible to
download recorded programmes from the PVR hard drive on to my
computer, so that I could burn a DVD.

Wrong!.. apparently it only allows me to download MP3 and JPEG via USB
'from the computer' to the PVR.

Does anyone have any clues, the only way I can see is for the
composite video out to be fed into a capture card on my PC, unless I'm
missing something.


Assuming you have a PC rather than a Mac, you can use the supplied Media
eLinker program to copy recorded programmes from Humax to PC via a
USB-2.0 connection.

Matti




Ivan July 15th 07 01:47 AM

PVR 9200 TB/S
 

"Matti Lamprhey" wrote in message
...
"Ivan" wrote...
"Ivan" wrote...
I've just impulse bought a Humax PVR 9200 TB/S (which I collect
tomorrow) I'm now beginning to wonder if I've done the right thing,
however I believe a number of people on this newsgroup have mentioned in
the past that they have this particular model and wonder if any of them
would be good enough pass on any good or bad points they have
encountered TIA.

PS it will mean certain death for me if it fails to record Coro or
Eastenders!


I was labouring under the misapprehension that it would be possible to
download recorded programmes from the PVR hard drive on to my computer,
so that I could burn a DVD.

Wrong!.. apparently it only allows me to download MP3 and JPEG via USB
'from the computer' to the PVR.

Does anyone have any clues, the only way I can see is for the composite
video out to be fed into a capture card on my PC, unless I'm missing
something.


Assuming you have a PC rather than a Mac, you can use the supplied Media
eLinker program to copy recorded programmes from Humax to PC via a USB-2.0
connection.

I can't find any mention of this in the handbook or on the software CD
supplied Matti, I would be very grateful if you could provide me with a
little bit more info on how to achieve this... Cheers Ivan



Matti




Max Demian July 15th 07 09:58 AM

PVR 9200 TB/S
 
"Ivan" wrote in message
k...

I was labouring under the misapprehension that it would be possible to
download recorded programmes from the PVR hard drive on to my computer,
so that I could burn a DVD.

Wrong!.. apparently it only allows me to download MP3 and JPEG via USB
'from the computer' to the PVR.

Does anyone have any clues, the only way I can see is for the composite
video out to be fed into a capture card on my PC, unless I'm missing
something.


Assuming you have a PC rather than a Mac, you can use the supplied Media
eLinker program to copy recorded programmes from Humax to PC via a
USB-2.0 connection.

I can't find any mention of this in the handbook or on the software CD
supplied Matti, I would be very grateful if you could provide me with a
little bit more info on how to achieve this... Cheers Ivan


The manual says very little on the use of the USB connection - it doesn't
even say you can organise MP3's in folders - a useful ability.

You need to check the version of Media eLinker you have - it needs to be at
least 2.1. (Version 2.4 is available from
http://www.humaxdigital.com/hcsa/Download/setupv24.zip - unzip the file and
run Setup.exe to install.)

Select the D2 partition from the drop-down at the top right of the eLinker
window to access the partition that contains recorded programmes.

That's the easy part - you can view the programmes on you PC using VideoLAN
Client (for example), but changing the format so that it can be burnt to DVD
is "quite difficult".

If I was doing it, I would connect a DVD recorder to the Humax by SCART.

--
Max Demian



Ivan July 15th 07 11:19 AM

PVR 9200 TB/S
 

"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
"Ivan" wrote in message
k...

I was labouring under the misapprehension that it would be possible to
download recorded programmes from the PVR hard drive on to my computer,
so that I could burn a DVD.

Wrong!.. apparently it only allows me to download MP3 and JPEG via USB
'from the computer' to the PVR.

Does anyone have any clues, the only way I can see is for the composite
video out to be fed into a capture card on my PC, unless I'm missing
something.

Assuming you have a PC rather than a Mac, you can use the supplied Media
eLinker program to copy recorded programmes from Humax to PC via a
USB-2.0 connection.

I can't find any mention of this in the handbook or on the software CD
supplied Matti, I would be very grateful if you could provide me with a
little bit more info on how to achieve this... Cheers Ivan


The manual says very little on the use of the USB connection - it doesn't
even say you can organise MP3's in folders - a useful ability.

You need to check the version of Media eLinker you have - it needs to be
at least 2.1. (Version 2.4 is available from
http://www.humaxdigital.com/hcsa/Download/setupv24.zip - unzip the file
and run Setup.exe to install.)

Select the D2 partition from the drop-down at the top right of the eLinker
window to access the partition that contains recorded programmes.

That's the easy part - you can view the programmes on you PC using
VideoLAN Client (for example), but changing the format so that it can be
burnt to DVD is "quite difficult".

If I was doing it, I would connect a DVD recorder to the Humax by SCART.



Thanks Max, the PVR is downstairs connected to our main TV, whilst my
computer is up here in the den.

I'm surprised that Humax with its excellent reputation appears to pay such
scant regard when it comes to users wishing to 'simply' produce and save
some kind of permanent hard copy of a recording.

Especially when one of 'the' major drawbacks with PVRs is is their inability
to be able to transfer a recording to another location.

Unfortunately I don't possess a standalone DVD recorder (only in my PC) or a
capture card with an RGB input capability.

However I note that the Humax 9200 does have an S-video output and my
capture card has an S-video input, I've been using my PC connected in this
manner to a Humax F2 FoxT Freeview receiver for a couple of years now and
have regularly managed to turn out some pretty respectable looking DVDs
using this particular set up.

So if all else fails I will try doing it this way (although it does seem a
pity that it can't easily be done directly using the original MPEG-2 stream,
without having to resort to analogue) and let you know how I get on...
cheers Ivan


--
Max Demian



André Coutanche July 15th 07 11:32 AM

PVR 9200 TB/S
 
Ivan wrote:

snip

So if all else fails I will try doing it this way (although it does
seem a pity that it can't easily be done directly using the original
MPEG-2 stream, without having to resort to analogue) and let you
know how I get on... cheers Ivan


I know nothing about the Humax, but if you *do* find a way of getting
the transport stream on its hard disk to your computer, there are lots
of (confusing!) possibilities for producing your DVD. I regularly do
this from my Topfield, and there's lots to read at www.toppy.org.uk,
especially the forum section on Computer connections.

André Coutanche




Matti Lamprhey[_2_] July 15th 07 12:04 PM

PVR 9200 TB/S
 
"Ivan" wrote...

[...] the PVR is downstairs connected to our main TV, whilst my
computer is up here in the den.


That's my situation also. I just wait for a period when the Humax won't
be used for a couple of hours, then disconnect it from the TV and take
it up to the computer for an eLinker session. The Humax doesn't need to
be connected to the TV or the aerial for this.

When you've got this working, I can tell you how I edit the transferred
recordings on the PC and make DVDs from them.

Best of luck! It's worth persevering with this, because you'll fit a
lot more high quality stuff on your DVDs this way than if you rerecord
to DVD via Scart.

Matti





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