Widescreen TV's a major contributor to the Global Warmigg Crisis.
 

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:42:51 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 3 Jul, 00:54, "Pyriform" wrote:
Alex Heney wrote:
While this is nothing whatsoever to do with widescreen (of course,
that is just your hobby-horse), it is rather surprising that LCD and
plasma screen TV sets *do* use more power than the equivalent CRT.

I couldn't find the specifications of many, but looking on the
Philips website, they have the full spec including power
consumption of all their TVs.

And the CRT 32PW9570/05 uses 109W in normal usage, while the same
sized LCD 32PF9641D/10 uses 128W (it does use less in standby).

The LCD will have a larger screen size, of course...

Err, it will?
32" is 32".

Not in the land of CRTs. Never has been.


Wrong.

You can just *see* a little more of the screen.
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Widescreen TV's a major contributor to the Global Warmigg Crisis.
 

Low Life #3 wrote:
"Pyriform" wrote in message
...

Yes, I really do need you to provide me with a link to such a graph.
Such an astonishing paleoclimatic reconstruction would be glorious
to behold, I am sure.

Not sure what it has to do with LCD/Plasma/CRT wide screen
televisions... but here you go:

http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm

no need to thank me, I do what I can to enlighten

In that case you can now enlighten me as to where exactly the cycle that
fits so perfectly with recent warming may be found on that site. It seems
rather elusive.

Widescreen TV's a major contributor to the Global Warmigg Crisis.
 

Alex Heney wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 00:54:09 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Alex Heney wrote:
While this is nothing whatsoever to do with widescreen (of course,
that is just your hobby-horse), it is rather surprising that LCD and
plasma screen TV sets *do* use more power than the equivalent CRT.

I couldn't find the specifications of many, but looking on the
Philips website, they have the full spec including power
consumption of all their TVs.

And the CRT 32PW9570/05 uses 109W in normal usage, while the same
sized LCD 32PF9641D/10 uses 128W (it does use less in standby).

The LCD will have a larger screen size, of course...

Any chance of you actually *reading* what you respond to?

I was talking about the *same* size screen.

And the LCD will have a larger viewable screen size, so you are not
comparing like with like. Are you an idiot or something?

Widescreen TV's a major contributor to the Global Warmigg Crisis.
 

"Lord Turkey Cough" wrote in message
...
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/...624165361.html

About time they were, like smoking ,banned.

LTC.




My gods, you talk some poop. All other issues aside, watch a very cinematic
film in 16:9, then in 4:3.....now tell me if you could really ever go back -
or at least explain the benefits for us to ditch our WS TV's.

The fact is, you've had it in for widescreen TV from the get-go, and you're
welcome to the opinion that *you* prefer (for whatever inane reasons) 4:3,
but now you're just getting desperate. "A major contributor to global
warming"? Erk, yeah.....like so is the constant flow of steam coming from
your head each time you even look at a widescreen telly. LOL :D

Remember this guy?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200203/s501885.htm

This is where your MADNESS will lead you, you've been warned!!!

Widescreen TV's a major contributor to the Global Warmigg Crisis.
 

"Slitheen" wrote in message
...
"Lord Turkey Cough" wrote in message
...
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/...624165361.html

About time they were, like smoking ,banned.

LTC.




My gods, you talk some poop. All other issues aside, watch a very
cinematic film in 16:9, then in 4:3.....now tell me if you could really
ever go back - or at least explain the benefits for us to ditch our WS
TV's.

4:3 obviously.


The fact is, you've had it in for widescreen TV from the get-go, and
you're welcome to the opinion that *you* prefer (for whatever inane
reasons) 4:3, but now you're just getting desperate.

Facts.
"A major contributor to global warming"? Erk, yeah.....like so is the
constant flow of steam coming from your head each time you even look at a
widescreen telly. LOL :D

It's without doubt that the lack of height in widescreen has a lead to a
boom in humongous sized TV's in a vain attempt to try and disguise it.

Futhermore 16:9 is very innefficient and leads to vast amounts of waste in
other
areas, including displays, storage, computer processing power, memory, hard
drives, transmission cost both terrestial and cable.

This vast ammount of totally *unnecessary* energy is a major contribution
to global warming which could easilly be eliminated. It doesn't mean giveing
up your summer holidays, all it means is moving to a more efficient format
such
as 4:3 which is in fact artisticlly vastly superiour to widescreen anyway.


If you are willing to destroy the planet because you can't see Luke
Skywalker
scratching his arse in the the periphery of Star wars III then God help us.
"Of course in the widescreen version you can see Luke Skywalker
scratching his arse ....bloody pan and scan...[drone....].this is not
how the Director intended...etc blab blah....... zzz."


When the high tide is lapping over the top of the Thames Barrier I am afraid
you
are going have to get used to watching 4:3 like it of not, because
possessing a widescreen
TV will probalby be a criminal offence.

You heard it here first.


LTC.



Remember this guy?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200203/s501885.htm

This is where your MADNESS will lead you, you've been warned!!!

Widescreen TV's a major contributor to the Global Warmigg Crisis.
 

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:50:59 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Alex Heney wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 00:54:09 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Alex Heney wrote:
While this is nothing whatsoever to do with widescreen (of course,
that is just your hobby-horse), it is rather surprising that LCD and
plasma screen TV sets *do* use more power than the equivalent CRT.

I couldn't find the specifications of many, but looking on the
Philips website, they have the full spec including power
consumption of all their TVs.

And the CRT 32PW9570/05 uses 109W in normal usage, while the same
sized LCD 32PF9641D/10 uses 128W (it does use less in standby).

The LCD will have a larger screen size, of course...

Any chance of you actually *reading* what you respond to?

I was talking about the *same* size screen.

And the LCD will have a larger viewable screen size, so you are not
comparing like with like.


I am comparing as close as possible "like with like".

The actual screen size is the same, so what you posted above was
wrong.

The *viewable* screen size is *slightly* lower with the CRT, and would
need a 30.2" LCD to give an exact equivalent, but Philips don't make a
30" LCD.

Are you an idiot or something?

Something :-)
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Smiley faces were meant to be annoying.
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

Widescreen TV's a major contributor to the Global Warmigg Crisis.
 

Alex Heney wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 00:54:09 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Alex Heney wrote:
While this is nothing whatsoever to do with widescreen (of course,
that is just your hobby-horse), it is rather surprising that LCD and
plasma screen TV sets *do* use more power than the equivalent CRT.

I couldn't find the specifications of many, but looking on the Philips
website, they have the full spec including power consumption of all
their TVs.

And the CRT 32PW9570/05 uses 109W in normal usage, while the same
sized LCD 32PF9641D/10 uses 128W (it does use less in standby).


A very odd result - when looking at a 19" CRT compared to LCD the situation is
reversed. Why should that be?
19" LCD = 40W http://tinyurl.com/3xz6wf
19" CRT = 100W http://tinyurl.com/2g2v3k

Widescreen TV's a major contributor to the Global Warmigg Crisis.
 

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:36:49 +0100, Scott
wrote:

Alex Heney wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 00:54:09 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Alex Heney wrote:
While this is nothing whatsoever to do with widescreen (of course,
that is just your hobby-horse), it is rather surprising that LCD and
plasma screen TV sets *do* use more power than the equivalent CRT.

I couldn't find the specifications of many, but looking on the Philips
website, they have the full spec including power consumption of all
their TVs.

And the CRT 32PW9570/05 uses 109W in normal usage, while the same
sized LCD 32PF9641D/10 uses 128W (it does use less in standby).


A very odd result - when looking at a 19" CRT compared to LCD the situation is
reversed. Why should that be?
19" LCD = 40W http://tinyurl.com/3xz6wf
19" CRT = 100W http://tinyurl.com/2g2v3k

Possibly something to do with the fact they are computer monitors, not
TVs. Adding the tuner probably makes more difference to an LCD.

Plus the fact that the CRT is no longer manufactured, so is obsolete.
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
You're not losing more hair, you're gaining more scalp.
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

Widescreen TV's a major contributor to the Global Warmigg Crisis.
 

On 3 Jul, 23:36, Scott wrote:
Alex Heney wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 00:54:09 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Alex Heney wrote:
While this is nothing whatsoever to do with widescreen (of course,
that is just your hobby-horse), it is rather surprising that LCD and
plasma screen TV sets *do* use more power than the equivalent CRT.

I couldn't find the specifications of many, but looking on the Philips
website, they have the full spec including power consumption of all
their TVs.

And the CRT 32PW9570/05 uses 109W in normal usage, while the same
sized LCD 32PF9641D/10 uses 128W (it does use less in standby).

A very odd result - when looking at a 19" CRT compared to LCD the situation is
reversed. Why should that be?
19" LCD = 40Whttp://tinyurl.com/3xz6wf
19" CRT = 100Whttp://tinyurl.com/2g2v3k

PC monitors do use much more power than a TV; not sure if it is due to
considerably more complex beam guides and accelerators, tiny dot
pitch, rapid scan rates or whatever but our 19" monitor used almost
twice as much power as our 28" 4:3 CRT TV.

Widescreen TV's a major contributor to the Global Warmigg Crisis.
 

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:44:17 +0100, Alex Heney
wrote:

And the CRT 32PW9570/05 uses 109W in normal usage, while the same
sized LCD 32PF9641D/10 uses 128W (it does use less in standby).


A very odd result - when looking at a 19" CRT compared to LCD the situation is
reversed. Why should that be?
19" LCD = 40W http://tinyurl.com/3xz6wf
19" CRT = 100W http://tinyurl.com/2g2v3k

Possibly something to do with the fact they are computer monitors, not
TVs. Adding the tuner probably makes more difference to an LCD.

A tuner makes a difference of 60W? That's a helluva tuner.

Plus the fact that the CRT is no longer manufactured, so is obsolete.

I don't understand what this has to do with power consumption of small
displays v large ones.

Rod.