Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 

The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include a
digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within their
working life.

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.

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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...
The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their working life.

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.

Because in this case, the principle of caveat emptor applies
rather than that of nanny state.

I bought a very cheap DVDR in Tesco, and yes it does
have an analogue tuner. It also has a DV input and is
an ideal compliment to my camcorder.

Are you suggesting that sale of this machine should be banned
in favour of a much more expensive one with a digital tuner,
or no tuner at all. (If such a machine even exists for the domestic market)

Perhaps there is a case for clear labelling of equipment with
analogue only tuners, but that's as far as it should go.

--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...
The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a
digital tuner.


http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their
working life.

"Digital tuner" means DTT, useless if you are using satellite or cable, and
not much use if you intend to record DTT using a HD recorder..

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.

Inadvisable to buy stuff like that in a supermarket as you have to do some
research, and when you get back there it's gone.

--
Max Demian

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In message , buddenbrooks
wrote
The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include a
digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within their
working life.


Which digital tuner do you want them to fit?
Terrestrial?
Satellite?
Cable?
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...
The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a
digital tuner.


http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their
working life.

"Digital tuner" means DTT, useless if you are using satellite or cable, and
not much use if you intend to record DTT using a HD recorder..

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.

Inadvisable to buy stuff like that in a supermarket as you have to do some
research, and when you get back there it's gone.

--
Max Demian

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In article ,
Graham. wrote:
Are you suggesting that sale of this machine should be banned in favour
of a much more expensive one with a digital tuner, or no tuner at all.
(If such a machine even exists for the domestic market)

Why should it be 'much more expensive'? Digital STBs can be bought for
pennies so the cost of including one must be less. Yet they seem to be of
the order of 100 quid or so more at the very bottom end - well over a 50%
increase.
I'm afraid I smell the usual rat of profiteering.

--
*Okay, who stopped the payment on my reality check? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...
The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their working life.

Most of what is being sold now is old stock, near it's sell by date like
most of the food in my local Tesco earlier tonight. That's after finding
numerous tins that were not dented and packets torn open. They blame the
supplier for that and get a refund.

I wouldn't buy a TV without a digital tuner. I wouldn't buy LCD anyway at
the moment as most are rubbish quality compared to CRT. Blurred backgrounds
is one particular annoyance, slow screen updating is another.

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"Alan" wrote in message
...
In message , buddenbrooks

Which digital tuner do you want them to fit?
Terrestrial?
Satellite?
Cable?


Basic consumer law in the UK requires an item that is sold to perform the
task for which the buyer bought it.
The law itself does not specify "reasonably expect it to do", so there is
an onous on the seller to be clear on the capability of any item he sells,
or risk having to refund the purchase and take back a used item.

Now for 50 years, more than the lifetime of most purchasers, you could go
into a shop and buy a TV which would recieve the basic services for its full
expected life.

So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy a
"Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission so an item
advertised as a television is claiming to receive broadcasts, and expect it
to perform for an acceptable period.

Which for an electronics item of this type means in excess of 10 years. In
the UK analog only TVs fill not be TELEvisions after at most 5 years.


As for the type of tuner, any of the 3 above would mean the item being sold
is a Television for the period of its life.
However the USA have mandated a digital terrestrial tuner as minimum, which
I would find acceptable.
Although if I am spending £1000 plus for a large screened model the extra
£25 to add a Cable/Sat/DTT/Analog capable tuner
would seem acceptable.

I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog TVs
that other countries have wisely made illegal.

Remember your council taxes are going to have to pick up the bill for all
those units bought and discarded early because they are
not functional after shutdown. Adding extra boxes and adaptors will not be
acceptable in a lot of homes where the wife refuses to have the lounge look
like a laboratory.

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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...

I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog TVs
that other countries have wisely made illegal.


Yes you got a good piont there.

Was at Currys yesturday looking at lcd 17"/19"/20 'ish" ranges for a kitchen
TV. Of course I want widescreen, and freeview built in as this is now the
way TV is transmitted and the future when anologue goes.
The salesman thought I was daft wanting such an item.!

Almost all these TVs were 4x3 anologue sets.
I could have a Freeview built into one but it was 4x3.
A couple were Widescreen but anologue.

What a state of affairs.

I blame the government and those that set our broadcasting standards for not
having a worldwide standard for digital broadcasting.

From what I see Anologue TV sets work in most countries and satellite boxes
work around the world.

Of course Currys and the like are pushing the sets they have because a set I
require would have to be sold at twice these prices.

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David

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"Rob" wrote in message
...

I wouldn't buy a TV without a digital tuner. I wouldn't buy LCD anyway at
the moment as most are rubbish quality compared to CRT. Blurred
backgrounds is one particular annoyance, slow screen updating is another.



Yes you could well be right on crt looking better.
But why then are we all switched, or switching to lcd flat screen monitors
for our PCs?
Mine seems a better picture, but I changed for space saving.
Think people in the main are going away from crt TV to LCD/plasma for space
saving.
Of course if at Currys you get no choice, they decide for Joe Public what he
shall have.

--
Regards,
David

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In article ,
David wrote:



From what I see Anologue TV sets work in most countries

most are designed for on broadcast system only of which there are 3 mins
ones. plus a few others.


and satellite boxes work around the world.

probably not, unless they are accessing the same satellite service.

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

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"David" wrote in message
...

But why then are we all switched, or switching to lcd flat screen
monitors
for our PCs?


CRTs will become illegal soon, they contain too much lead in the glass.
The level is above EC permitted concentration and
because of the widespread use a tempory exception is in force. Once sales of
new CRT based TVs drop significantly the exception will be terminated and no
TVs will be CRT.

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In article ,
buddenbrooks wrote:
So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy
a "Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission so an item
advertised as a television is claiming to receive broadcasts, and expect
it to perform for an acceptable period.

One quick and easy way would be to require each new TV on sale to have a
stick on label stating if it *doesn't* have a FreeView tuner.

--
*If you don't like the news, go out and make some.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On 01/07/2007 07:26, buddenbrooks wrote:

I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog TVs
that other countries have wisely made illegal.

A product legally on sale in any EC country must be allowed for sale in
all other EC countries, so until all member states have gone digital
*and* outlawed analogue tuners they'll still be legal.

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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
On 01/07/2007 07:26, buddenbrooks wrote:

I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog
TVs that other countries have wisely made illegal.

A product legally on sale in any EC country must be allowed for sale in
all other EC countries, so until all member states have gone digital *and*
outlawed analogue tuners they'll still be legal.



YOU can try selling a PAL telly in France. I wouldn't bother even trying!

[email protected]

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In article ,
Graham. wrote:

"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...
The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their working life.

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.

Because in this case, the principle of caveat emptor applies
rather than that of nanny state.

I bought a very cheap DVDR in Tesco, and yes it does
have an analogue tuner. It also has a DV input and is
an ideal compliment to my camcorder.

Are you suggesting that sale of this machine should be banned
in favour of a much more expensive one with a digital tuner,
or no tuner at all. (If such a machine even exists for the domestic market)

Perhaps there is a case for clear labelling of equipment with
analogue only tuners, but that's as far as it should go.

I recently bought a 21" flatscreen Analog TV for the bedroom for GBP 80 and
a Freeview box to go with it for GBP30 all from Sainsburys. They had the
freeview version of the same TV for GBP130.
I of course bought the separates setup, and it works well.

Peter

--
Peter Gillett :
Totnes : South Devon

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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
On 01/07/2007 07:26, buddenbrooks wrote:

I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog
TVs that other countries have wisely made illegal.

A product legally on sale in any EC country must be allowed for sale in
all other EC countries, so until all member states have gone digital *and*
outlawed analogue tuners they'll still be legal.



There are people serving prison sentences in France for taking on holiday
items legally sold in the UK.

Some electronic items legal in the UK use French Military frequencies.

Leave your speed radar detector in plain view on a European Holiday and
expect to come back Easy Jet.

The EC regulations only require that non-domestic manufacturers are not
disadvantaged. It is perfectly legal for an individual EC country to ban all
items in a class.

Like guns many items are licenced, try legally buying a rifle in Italy and
bringing it through customs at Dover.

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In article ,
buddenbrooks wrote:




There are people serving prison sentences in France for taking on holiday
items legally sold in the UK.

Some electronic items legal in the UK use French Military frequencies.

Leave your speed radar detector in plain view on a European Holiday and
expect to come back Easy Jet.

Don't even take it to Scotland !

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

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"charles" wrote in message
...

Don't even take it to Scotland !


I count Scotland as another independent country from England with its own
parliament and should only be dealt with via Bruxelles.

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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...
The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their working life.

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.




Drivel.

All TV's in Europe for the last two decades have included a SCART port which
means they are not useless at DSO.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
buddenbrooks wrote:
So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy
a "Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission so an item
advertised as a television is claiming to receive broadcasts, and expect
it to perform for an acceptable period.

One quick and easy way would be to require each new TV on sale to have a
stick on label stating if it *doesn't* have a FreeView tuner.

--
*If you don't like the news, go out and make some.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


They already have labels indicating the number of SCART ports and HDMI
ports.

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On 01/07/2007 10:25, Monkey Hanger wrote:

YOU can try selling a PAL telly in France. I wouldn't bother even trying!

If it was a PAL only one I'm sure you'd sell very few, the point is
you're allowed to offer them for sale.

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"Light of Aria" wrote in message
...


All TV's in Europe for the last two decades have included a SCART port
which means they are not useless at DSO.


The SCART Socket enables you to attach a second item to perform a function
it would be reasonable to expect the TV
to do in the first place.

The SCART socket was orinally intended to allow recoeders or satelite Rx at
a time when these were 'extra' features people could live without.

Most people want a Television in itself to receive television. If the shop
wants to sell monitors they should describe them as such.

I suspect that by next year the sales of Analog TVs will plumet as people
start returning TVs as 'faulty' in regions that have switched over and
Dixons etc realise that they are creating customer hostility in not meeting
expectations.

I will buy a new TV when I can go in with the wife and not waste my time
persuade her that the one that looks nicest and fits the decor is worthless
because it is obsolete and not fit for purpose. WHich is the case for the
majority of sets currently on sale.

I did see a nice one in Germany, On box stated it could receive analog, DTT
and sat without adaptors.
However I could not work out if German DTT was the same as UK.

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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...

I count Scotland as another independent country from England with its own
parliament and should only be dealt with via Bruxelles.

I thought Scotland was the country I paid my English taxes for them to have
free university education.
--
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David

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Was at Currys yesturday looking at lcd 17"/19"/20 'ish" ranges for a
kitchen TV. Of course I want widescreen, and freeview built in as this
is now the way TV is transmitted and the future when anologue goes.
The salesman thought I was daft wanting such an item.!

Almost all these TVs were 4x3 anologue sets.
I could have a Freeview built into one but it was 4x3.
A couple were Widescreen but anologue.



Take a look at the DMTECH range. Both Currys and Comet carry these. We
bought a DMTECH LM17WXT 17" LCD last weekend for the bedroom from Comet:
DTT, Analogue, Widescreen, DVD/DivX, Scart, composite, can be wall mounted.
It's a neat little TV and the quality of the picture and sound is good. Not
particularly cheap, but I didn't really see the point of buying a new TV at
a time when analogue is about to be switched off without a digital tuner
built in - especially as the idea was to lose those extra boxes (DVD player,
Freeview box. Our local Comet was cheaper than our local Currys for the
same thing by about 10% and seems quite competitive with on-line suppliers -
particularly for a shop. Undoubtedly prices will eventually drop, but in
our case we wanted something now and something we could actually go to a
store, see, buy and take away there and then.

Nick

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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...
So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy a
"Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission so an item
advertised as a television is claiming to receive broadcasts, and expect
it to perform for an acceptable period.

Which for an electronics item of this type means in excess of 10 years. In
the UK analog only TVs fill not be TELEvisions after at most 5 years.


The TV set would still be capable of receiving broadcasts even if the
broadcasts had stopped for ever. After all, if Emley Moor was off the air
due to a fault I would have a claim again the firm who sold me my telly
would I?

Aerial contractors have problems with this. We are responsible for the
aerial performing properly but we can't be blamed if a big building goes up
and cuts the signal off.

If you bought a car and ran out of road one dark night it wouldn't be the
car dealer's fault would it?

Bill

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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
On 01/07/2007 07:26, buddenbrooks wrote:

I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog
TVs that other countries have wisely made illegal.

A product legally on sale in any EC country must be allowed for sale in
all other EC countries

In that case why can't I gat a Sky card for a Spanish address?

Bill

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"Peter Gillett" wrote in message
...
In article ,

I recently bought a 21" flatscreen Analog TV for the bedroom for GBP 80
and
a Freeview box to go with it for GBP30 all from Sainsburys. They had the
freeview version of the same TV for GBP130.
I of course bought the separates setup, and it works well.



That is OK, you have enough knowledge and the inclination to work around
what is on offer.

Apart fron pricing anomolies why would anyone knowingly buy a analog only
TV when a Digital/analog capable TV should be available for little more?

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"David" wrote in message
...

"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...

I count Scotland as another independent country from England with its
own parliament and should only be dealt with via Bruxelles.

I thought Scotland was the country I paid my English taxes for them to
have free university education.
--
You voted in Scotish polititions sent south to send money home.

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...


If you bought a car and ran out of road one dark night it wouldn't be the
car dealer's fault would it?


If you sell something which is not capable of doing what the buyer expexts
it to do, then you are liable under the sales of goods act.

If you sell someting you are legally obliged to ensure the buyer
understands what it can do. If you do not then you take the risk of having
to refund the purchase, even if the buyers expectation is to some extent
unreasonable.

Someone buying a TV could be reasonably considered to have an expectation
that for the life of the TV it will function as a receiver of entertainment.
Sellers of analogue TVs are failing to do this and are risking having to
supply adaptors free of charge.

It is not the digital TVs that require a notice saying they ARE capable of
receiving TV transmissions after 2012, but analog ones which require a
warning that they will NOT.

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On 01/07/2007 13:47, Bill Wright wrote:

In that case why can't I gat a Sky card for a Spanish address?

Becaueee the EU (or EC/EEC whatever it was called at the time)
restrictions on internal trade lifted in 1992 only applied to goods and
labour, not services?

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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 07:26:03 +0100, "buddenbrooks"
wrote:

So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy a
"Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission

Actually, it means "distance" or "far".

Charlie
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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 08:53:52 +0100, "buddenbrooks"
wrote:

CRTs will become illegal soon, they contain too much lead in the glass.
The level is above EC permitted concentration and
because of the widespread use a tempory exception is in force. Once sales of
new CRT based TVs drop significantly the exception will be terminated and no
TVs will be CRT.

Do you have a cite for that? I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm
just interested.

Charlie
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If you sell someting you are legally obliged to ensure the buyer
understands what it can do. If you do not then you take the risk of
having to refund the purchase, even if the buyers expectation is to
some extent unreasonable.

I would be interested in the source of/background to this as I'd
previously been told that under English law buyers were only entitled to
reasonable expectations.

The Sale of Goods Act used to refer to things which "meet the standard
that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking account of
the description of the goods, the price (if relevant) and all the other
relevant .....". So it was down to customer's reasonable expectations
when buying the product. If things have changed I'd welcome a pointer
to what/where.

--
Robin

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"Robin" wrote in message
k...

If you sell someting you are legally obliged to ensure the buyer
understands what it can do. If you do not then you take the risk of
having to refund the purchase, even if the buyers expectation is to some
extent unreasonable.

I would be interested in the source of/background to this as I'd
previously been told that under English law buyers were only entitled to
reasonable expectations.

The Sale of Goods Act used to refer to things which "meet the standard
that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking account of
the description of the goods, the price (if relevant) and all the other
relevant .....". So it was down to customer's reasonable expectations
when buying the product. If things have changed I'd welcome a pointer to
what/where.


Sunday afternoon after a few smoke free pints at the pub :)

I have understood this from R4 consumer programmes.

http://www.egos.co.uk/Freelanc/freela21.htm

I think it boils down to " A meeting of Minds", For a contract to hold
both parties have to understand and agree the same thing.
A contract for a Television sale to hold requires that both parties
understand the same thing for 'Television', So if a customer walks in
through the door thinking "I want a television that I can give my Mum for
Christmass and will keep her happy for 10 years",
and the salesman thinks "I need to dump those old analog TVs which will be
useless here in Cumbria in 6 months",
Then there is no "meeting of minds". The fact that a customer may verbalise
"I want a TV" and the obsolete box meets that description is not enough. The
job of a sales assistant is to identify what the customer is actually
wanting and offer products that meet that requirement.

So the case of wanting a TV capable of receiving digital TV is not met by a
analog TV with a SCART connection and an optional adaptor box, if the
picture in the mind of the buyer was of a single box with only a power and
aerial connection.

I have never had a problem returning goods that are in perfect working
condition but do not do what I expected of them.

I believe there is no limit to the difference of 'mind' , if I really do
think a large grey mammal with a long trunk and tusks is called a
Television' and Curries supply me with a 42 inch plasma technology box then
a "meeting of minds" has failed and no contract exists.

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Charlie Pearce wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 08:53:52 +0100, "buddenbrooks"
wrote:

CRTs will become illegal soon, they contain too much lead in the glass.
The level is above EC permitted concentration and
because of the widespread use a tempory exception is in force. Once sales of
new CRT based TVs drop significantly the exception will be terminated and no
TVs will be CRT.

Do you have a cite for that? I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm
just interested.

Me too.

CRTs certainly do contain lead in their glass, to reduce X-Ray emissions.

--
Mark
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"Charlie Pearce" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 07:26:03 +0100, "buddenbrooks"
wrote:

So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy a
"Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission

Actually, it means "distance" or "far".


"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it
means just what I choose it to mean--nether more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many
different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be the master--that's
all."

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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
On 01/07/2007 13:47, Bill Wright wrote:

In that case why can't I gat a Sky card for a Spanish address?

Becaueee the EU (or EC/EEC whatever it was called at the time)
restrictions on internal trade lifted in 1992 only applied to goods and
labour, not services?


Possibly because laws may not be reciprical, SKY may be allowed to sell to
a Spanish address they are not compelled to do so.

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"Charlie Pearce" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 08:53:52 +0100, "buddenbrooks"
wrote:

CRTs will become illegal soon, they contain too much lead in the glass.
The level is above EC permitted concentration and
because of the widespread use a tempory exception is in force. Once sales
of
new CRT based TVs drop significantly the exception will be terminated and
no
TVs will be CRT.

Do you have a cite for that? I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm
just interested.

http://www.lead-free.org/SITE/UPLOAD...Compliance.pdf

http://documents.rs-components.com/E...8_DIST_ZAF.pdf

Alternatively a UK google search for ROHS and Lead and CRT

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Charlie Pearce wrote:

Me too.

CRTs certainly do contain lead in their glass, to reduce X-Ray emissions.

--

See other reply, I am not sure if the CRT exception is explained in the
references I gave.
But the exceptions were for manufactured items for which there is no viable
alternative, which was the case for CRTs at the time the legislation was
passed, but it is living legislation and will be updated as the new
technology becomes cost effective.

However basic economics will have the same effect as alternative displays
become cheaper, lighter and portable.