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Dave Plowman (News) July 2nd 07 03:17 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
In article ,
Peter Gillett wrote:
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Peter Gillett wrote:
I recently bought a 21" flatscreen Analog TV for the bedroom for GBP
80 and a Freeview box to go with it for GBP30 all from Sainsburys.
They had the freeview version of the same TV for GBP130. I of course
bought the separates setup, and it works well.


So to save 20 quid you had two boxes rather than one and two remote
controls? Was it worth it?


Yes! It saved more than GBP20 as I already had the spare Freeview box
from when I upgraded the main set to a pvr.


Ah! So! you! lied! then!

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buddenbrooks July 2nd 07 06:06 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 

All TVs sold in France from December must contain a HD Digital tuner.



the dog from that film you saw[_2_] July 2nd 07 06:18 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 

"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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All TVs sold in France from December must contain a HD Digital tuner.



is terrestrial HD in existence in france right now then ?



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buddenbrooks July 2nd 07 06:47 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 

"the dog from that film you saw" wrote
in message ...

"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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All TVs sold in France from December must contain a HD Digital tuner.



is terrestrial HD in existence in france right now then ?


I don't know, the artical I was reading was about a tuner ic capable of
doing all of the processing needed to decode digital signals
and it stated that it was being used to meet the requirement for HD Digital
tuners to be fitted to all tvs.




Andy Burns July 2nd 07 06:57 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
On 02/07/2007 17:06, buddenbrooks wrote:

All TVs sold in France from December must contain a HD Digital tuner.


Have you got a source that states they are compelled to contain such a
tuner/decoder? Or is it merely that *if* you want it to work with TNT,
you will require one with such a tuner/decoder?

André Coutanche July 2nd 07 07:27 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
Andy Burns wrote:
On 02/07/2007 17:06, buddenbrooks wrote:

All TVs sold in France from December must contain a HD Digital
tuner.


Have you got a source that states they are compelled to contain such
a tuner/decoder? Or is it merely that *if* you want it to work with
TNT, you will require one with such a tuner/decoder?


I was struck by the - err - uncompromising nature of the phrasing. A
quick google hasn't got me back to anything definitive in French, but
based on the reports I've found in English, I think the statement
needs qualifying to read: "all *high-definition ready* tvs sold in
France from December must contain a high-definition tuner".

I have also read words to the effect that implementation will depend
on the co-operation of the manufacturers.

André Coutanche




Andy Burns July 2nd 07 07:48 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
On 02/07/2007 18:27, André Coutanche wrote:

I was struck by the - err - uncompromising nature of the phrasing. A
quick google hasn't got me back to anything definitive in French


The TNT webs site seems to show 15th December 2007 as their final(?)
switch on date of several phases.

http://www.tnt-gratuite.fr/tnt_home.swf

Other than that my searching in a foreign language is a bit hit-amd-miss :-)

David July 2nd 07 09:41 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...
In , Andy Burns
wrote:

On 02/07/2007 07:55, David wrote:

"Graham" wrote in message
...

Actually LG did make a set with an integrated SKY Digibox, (a modified
Pace box), but that's rather the exception that proves the rule.

I know I will be corrected if wrong, but I seem to recall the law of our
land stopped them.


Because it didn't have a CAM slot I beleive


Indeed. Ultimately it was Sky's anti-competitive refusal to provide a
CAM that stopped them.


Not following here, it is OK to have Sky Boxes without CAM slots, but put a
SKY box into a TV set and it got to have a CAM.

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Charlie Pearce July 2nd 07 10:23 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:11:22 +0100, "buddenbrooks"
wrote:


"Charlie Pearce" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 07:26:03 +0100, "buddenbrooks"
wrote:

So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy a
"Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission


Actually, it means "distance" or "far".


"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it
means just what I choose it to mean--nether more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many
different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be the master--that's
all."


A very grudulent response, sir. I tip my sloot to you.

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Roderick Stewart July 2nd 07 11:43 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:27:38 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

It is only in recent years that it has even been possible to plug little
boxes into domestic TV display devices to achieve anything different,
and although "audio display devices" have been available since the start
of broadcasting, unless they have built-in radio tuners nobody ever
calls them radio sets, but audio amplifiers.


Well, I don't know of anyone until now who has used the term 'audio
display devices'. But if they did I'd expect them to either be talking
about something like a scope or specan displaying audio signals, or disco
lights, or perhaps a loudspeaker. Not an amplifier. Strange term, though.


I was trying to think of a simple but related term for something that
would do for audio signals what a screen does for video signals, i.e.
present them to the viewer/listener in a form appropriate to the type
of signal, by which I meant through loudspeakers in the case of an
audio amplifier. You wouldn't expect such a device to receive radio
signals on its own, and you wouldn't call it a radio set.

Rod.


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