Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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buddenbrooks wrote:
So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy
a "Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission so an item
advertised as a television is claiming to receive broadcasts, and expect
it to perform for an acceptable period.

One quick and easy way would be to require each new TV on sale to have a
stick on label stating if it *doesn't* have a FreeView tuner.

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They already have labels indicating the number of SCART ports and HDMI
ports.

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 

On 01/07/2007 10:25, Monkey Hanger wrote:

YOU can try selling a PAL telly in France. I wouldn't bother even trying!

If it was a PAL only one I'm sure you'd sell very few, the point is
you're allowed to offer them for sale.

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"Light of Aria" wrote in message
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All TV's in Europe for the last two decades have included a SCART port
which means they are not useless at DSO.


The SCART Socket enables you to attach a second item to perform a function
it would be reasonable to expect the TV
to do in the first place.

The SCART socket was orinally intended to allow recoeders or satelite Rx at
a time when these were 'extra' features people could live without.

Most people want a Television in itself to receive television. If the shop
wants to sell monitors they should describe them as such.

I suspect that by next year the sales of Analog TVs will plumet as people
start returning TVs as 'faulty' in regions that have switched over and
Dixons etc realise that they are creating customer hostility in not meeting
expectations.

I will buy a new TV when I can go in with the wife and not waste my time
persuade her that the one that looks nicest and fits the decor is worthless
because it is obsolete and not fit for purpose. WHich is the case for the
majority of sets currently on sale.

I did see a nice one in Germany, On box stated it could receive analog, DTT
and sat without adaptors.
However I could not work out if German DTT was the same as UK.

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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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I count Scotland as another independent country from England with its own
parliament and should only be dealt with via Bruxelles.

I thought Scotland was the country I paid my English taxes for them to have
free university education.
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Was at Currys yesturday looking at lcd 17"/19"/20 'ish" ranges for a
kitchen TV. Of course I want widescreen, and freeview built in as this
is now the way TV is transmitted and the future when anologue goes.
The salesman thought I was daft wanting such an item.!

Almost all these TVs were 4x3 anologue sets.
I could have a Freeview built into one but it was 4x3.
A couple were Widescreen but anologue.



Take a look at the DMTECH range. Both Currys and Comet carry these. We
bought a DMTECH LM17WXT 17" LCD last weekend for the bedroom from Comet:
DTT, Analogue, Widescreen, DVD/DivX, Scart, composite, can be wall mounted.
It's a neat little TV and the quality of the picture and sound is good. Not
particularly cheap, but I didn't really see the point of buying a new TV at
a time when analogue is about to be switched off without a digital tuner
built in - especially as the idea was to lose those extra boxes (DVD player,
Freeview box. Our local Comet was cheaper than our local Currys for the
same thing by about 10% and seems quite competitive with on-line suppliers -
particularly for a shop. Undoubtedly prices will eventually drop, but in
our case we wanted something now and something we could actually go to a
store, see, buy and take away there and then.

Nick

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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy a
"Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission so an item
advertised as a television is claiming to receive broadcasts, and expect
it to perform for an acceptable period.

Which for an electronics item of this type means in excess of 10 years. In
the UK analog only TVs fill not be TELEvisions after at most 5 years.


The TV set would still be capable of receiving broadcasts even if the
broadcasts had stopped for ever. After all, if Emley Moor was off the air
due to a fault I would have a claim again the firm who sold me my telly
would I?

Aerial contractors have problems with this. We are responsible for the
aerial performing properly but we can't be blamed if a big building goes up
and cuts the signal off.

If you bought a car and ran out of road one dark night it wouldn't be the
car dealer's fault would it?

Bill

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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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On 01/07/2007 07:26, buddenbrooks wrote:

I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog
TVs that other countries have wisely made illegal.

A product legally on sale in any EC country must be allowed for sale in
all other EC countries

In that case why can't I gat a Sky card for a Spanish address?

Bill

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"Peter Gillett" wrote in message
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In article ,

I recently bought a 21" flatscreen Analog TV for the bedroom for GBP 80
and
a Freeview box to go with it for GBP30 all from Sainsburys. They had the
freeview version of the same TV for GBP130.
I of course bought the separates setup, and it works well.



That is OK, you have enough knowledge and the inclination to work around
what is on offer.

Apart fron pricing anomolies why would anyone knowingly buy a analog only
TV when a Digital/analog capable TV should be available for little more?

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"David" wrote in message
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"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
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I count Scotland as another independent country from England with its
own parliament and should only be dealt with via Bruxelles.

I thought Scotland was the country I paid my English taxes for them to
have free university education.
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You voted in Scotish polititions sent south to send money home.

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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If you bought a car and ran out of road one dark night it wouldn't be the
car dealer's fault would it?


If you sell something which is not capable of doing what the buyer expexts
it to do, then you are liable under the sales of goods act.

If you sell someting you are legally obliged to ensure the buyer
understands what it can do. If you do not then you take the risk of having
to refund the purchase, even if the buyers expectation is to some extent
unreasonable.

Someone buying a TV could be reasonably considered to have an expectation
that for the life of the TV it will function as a receiver of entertainment.
Sellers of analogue TVs are failing to do this and are risking having to
supply adaptors free of charge.

It is not the digital TVs that require a notice saying they ARE capable of
receiving TV transmissions after 2012, but analog ones which require a
warning that they will NOT.