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charles July 1st 07 09:51 AM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
In article ,
David wrote:



From what I see Anologue TV sets work in most countries


most are designed for on broadcast system only of which there are 3 mins
ones. plus a few others.


and satellite boxes work around the world.


probably not, unless they are accessing the same satellite service.

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buddenbrooks July 1st 07 09:53 AM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 

"David" wrote in message
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But why then are we all switched, or switching to lcd flat screen

monitors
for our PCs?



CRTs will become illegal soon, they contain too much lead in the glass.
The level is above EC permitted concentration and
because of the widespread use a tempory exception is in force. Once sales of
new CRT based TVs drop significantly the exception will be terminated and no
TVs will be CRT.



Dave Plowman (News) July 1st 07 11:03 AM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
In article ,
buddenbrooks wrote:
So it is not at all unreasonable for a customer to walk into a shop, buy
a "Television" note the 'tele' part it means transmission so an item
advertised as a television is claiming to receive broadcasts, and expect
it to perform for an acceptable period.


One quick and easy way would be to require each new TV on sale to have a
stick on label stating if it *doesn't* have a FreeView tuner.

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*If you don't like the news, go out and make some.

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Andy Burns July 1st 07 11:08 AM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
On 01/07/2007 07:26, buddenbrooks wrote:

I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog TVs
that other countries have wisely made illegal.


A product legally on sale in any EC country must be allowed for sale in
all other EC countries, so until all member states have gone digital
*and* outlawed analogue tuners they'll still be legal.






Monkey Hanger July 1st 07 11:25 AM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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On 01/07/2007 07:26, buddenbrooks wrote:

I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog
TVs that other countries have wisely made illegal.


A product legally on sale in any EC country must be allowed for sale in
all other EC countries, so until all member states have gone digital *and*
outlawed analogue tuners they'll still be legal.



YOU can try selling a PAL telly in France. I wouldn't bother even trying!

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Peter Gillett July 1st 07 11:28 AM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
In article ,
Graham. wrote:

"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...
The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their working life.

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.


Because in this case, the principle of caveat emptor applies
rather than that of nanny state.


I bought a very cheap DVDR in Tesco, and yes it does
have an analogue tuner. It also has a DV input and is
an ideal compliment to my camcorder.


Are you suggesting that sale of this machine should be banned
in favour of a much more expensive one with a digital tuner,
or no tuner at all. (If such a machine even exists for the domestic market)


Perhaps there is a case for clear labelling of equipment with
analogue only tuners, but that's as far as it should go.


I recently bought a 21" flatscreen Analog TV for the bedroom for GBP 80 and
a Freeview box to go with it for GBP30 all from Sainsburys. They had the
freeview version of the same TV for GBP130.
I of course bought the separates setup, and it works well.

Peter

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Peter Gillett :
Totnes : South Devon

buddenbrooks July 1st 07 11:36 AM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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On 01/07/2007 07:26, buddenbrooks wrote:

I suspect that we are becoming the dumping ground for all those analog
TVs that other countries have wisely made illegal.


A product legally on sale in any EC country must be allowed for sale in
all other EC countries, so until all member states have gone digital *and*
outlawed analogue tuners they'll still be legal.



There are people serving prison sentences in France for taking on holiday
items legally sold in the UK.

Some electronic items legal in the UK use French Military frequencies.

Leave your speed radar detector in plain view on a European Holiday and
expect to come back Easy Jet.

The EC regulations only require that non-domestic manufacturers are not
disadvantaged. It is perfectly legal for an individual EC country to ban all
items in a class.

Like guns many items are licenced, try legally buying a rifle in Italy and
bringing it through customs at Dover.



charles July 1st 07 12:05 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 
In article ,
buddenbrooks wrote:




There are people serving prison sentences in France for taking on holiday
items legally sold in the UK.


Some electronic items legal in the UK use French Military frequencies.


Leave your speed radar detector in plain view on a European Holiday and
expect to come back Easy Jet.


Don't even take it to Scotland !

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From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11


buddenbrooks July 1st 07 12:38 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 

"charles" wrote in message
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Don't even take it to Scotland !


I count Scotland as another independent country from England with its own
parliament and should only be dealt with via Bruxelles.



Light of Aria July 1st 07 12:57 PM

Digital tuners in all TVs sold
 

"buddenbrooks" wrote in message
...
The USA now mandates that ALL devices capable of receiving TV must include
a digital tuner.

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Art...tion022607.asp

I wonder why the UK have not gone down this route, I noted that over half
the TVs in the local Tescos will be useless without an adaptor within
their working life.

Ah well I bough some Tescos butter ready bread and coffee ready milk and
left via a customer ready till, sorry I imagined the last one.




Drivel.

All TV's in Europe for the last two decades have included a SCART port which
means they are not useless at DSO.




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