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The whole of Sheiffield under water.
Well you would think so the way the news channels are
going overvboard about it. Blimey you would think these people had never seen a heavy rain shower before!! A waste of the license payers money. |
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It is summer, their's no other news, why do you think they put Big brother
on at this time of year! :-p "Lord Turkey Cough" wrote in message ... Well you would think so the way the news channels are going overvboard about it. Blimey you would think these people had never seen a heavy rain shower before!! A waste of the license payers money. |
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Sam Nelson wrote:
In article , says... Well you would think so the way the news channels are going overvboard about it. Blimey you would think these people had never seen a heavy rain shower before!! A waste of the license payers money. Some poor bloke drowning in front of a bunch of helpless firefighters because he had his foot trapped in a gate is pretty serious stuff. Isn;t it? Something's funny there. They must've had access to Fire Service & Police Diver breathing apparatus (which would've kept him alive for a hour or so underwater), and they were surely carrying cutting equipment (which would've dealt with the trapped foot, by amputation in the last resort). Even without the technology, if they'd strapped a harness under him and then set 6 beefy firemen pulling hard he would've come free eventually (perhaps with a broken, torn or even missing foot). Will be interesting to hear the full story when it emerges. |
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"Sam Nelson" wrote in message t... In article , says... Well you would think so the way the news channels are going overvboard about it. Blimey you would think these people had never seen a heavy rain shower before!! A waste of the license payers money. Some poor bloke drowning in front of a bunch of helpless firefighters because he had his foot trapped in a gate is pretty serious stuff. Isn;t it? Not much coverage of that unfortunately. The man coverage is of a very people surrounded by a foot or so of water for a few hours. Don't they have any wellingtons? -- SAm. |
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"Sam Nelson" wrote in message t... In article , says... Well you would think so the way the news channels are going overvboard about it. Blimey you would think these people had never seen a heavy rain shower before!! A waste of the license payers money. Some poor bloke drowning in front of a bunch of helpless firefighters because he had his foot trapped in a gate is pretty serious stuff. Isn;t it? Not much coverage of that unfortunately. The main coverage is of a few people surrounded by a foot or so of water for a few hours. Don't they have any wellingtons? -- SAm. |
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"Lord Turkey Cough" wrote in message ... "Sam Nelson" wrote in message t... In article , says... Well you would think so the way the news channels are going overvboard about it. Blimey you would think these people had never seen a heavy rain shower before!! A waste of the license payers money. Some poor bloke drowning in front of a bunch of helpless firefighters because he had his foot trapped in a gate is pretty serious stuff. Isn;t it? Not much coverage of that unfortunately. The man coverage is of a very people surrounded by a foot or so of water for a few hours. Don't they have any wellingtons? Ignore this, post I put a new one in. -- SAm. |
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On 25/06/2007 21:33, Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
Ignore this, post I put a new one in. For the sake of a missing "i"? You could cancel the original message if you though people cared, or that most people hadn't killfile'd you. |
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:54:40 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote: On 25/06/2007 21:33, Lord Turkey Cough wrote: Ignore this, post I put a new one in. For the sake of a missing "i"? You could cancel the original message if you though people cared, or that most people hadn't killfile'd you. What's the apostrophy for ? DG |
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"Derek Geldard" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:54:40 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: On 25/06/2007 21:33, Lord Turkey Cough wrote: Ignore this, post I put a new one in. For the sake of a missing "i"? You could cancel the original message if you though people cared, or that most people hadn't killfile'd you. What's the apostrophy for ? Its to indicate something is missing. DG |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message ... On 25/06/2007 21:33, Lord Turkey Cough wrote: Ignore this, post I put a new one in. For the sake of a missing "i"? You could cancel the original message if you though people cared, or that most people hadn't killfile'd you. Don't worry I have killfile'd them too!! |
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You may choose to scoff, but I was in the S Yorks Fire Control Room
just after lunch and believe me it was bad. The River Don at Meadowhall rose enough to flood - about eight feet - in under an hour, the last two feet in about five minutes. Almost every road out of Sheffield was flooded at some point - it took me exactly two hours to get from the centre to the M1, and I know the back roads well! The A617 coming into the town from J29 is under 3m of water! My wife is currently at Chesterfield hospital which is on a hill east of the town: every road that she could use to get away - in any direction - is impassible, and she started trying at 16:00! Before Sheffield I was in Hull and that was even worse - that was where the poor chap died with his foot stuck in railings. I have been a field tech covering either the North of England or latterly Yorkshire for 28 years and I have seen NEVER weather as bad as this - and I don't frighten easily. -- Woody harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com |
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In article , harrogate3
writes You may choose to scoff, but I was in the S Yorks Fire Control Room just after lunch and believe me it was bad. The River Don at Meadowhall rose enough to flood - about eight feet - in under an hour, the last two feet in about five minutes. Almost every road out of Sheffield was flooded at some point - it took me exactly two hours to get from the centre to the M1, and I know the back roads well! The A617 coming into the town from J29 is under 3m of water! My wife is currently at Chesterfield hospital which is on a hill east of the town: every road that she could use to get away - in any direction - is impassible, and she started trying at 16:00! Before Sheffield I was in Hull and that was even worse - that was where the poor chap died with his foot stuck in railings. I have been a field tech covering either the North of England or latterly Yorkshire for 28 years and I have seen NEVER weather as bad as this - and I don't frighten easily. What are Yorkshire water shares like at the moment;?.... -- Tony Sayer |
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On 25/06/2007 22:12, Derek Geldard wrote:
What's the apostrophy for ? The missing "e" from where I verbed killfile? |
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:10:49 +0100, Sam Nelson
wrote the following to uk.misc: In article , says... Well you would think so the way the news channels are going overvboard about it. Blimey you would think these people had never seen a heavy rain shower before!! A waste of the license payers money. Some poor bloke drowning in front of a bunch of helpless firefighters because he had his foot trapped in a gate is pretty serious stuff. Isn;t it? It's just "half_pint" trolling again. Must be half term. mh. -- http://www.nukesoft.co.uk http://personal.nukesoft.co.uk From address is a blackhole. Reply-to address is valid. |
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:33:34 +0100, tony sayer
wrote the following to uk.misc: In article , harrogate3 writes You may choose to scoff, but I was in the S Yorks Fire Control Room just after lunch and believe me it was bad. The River Don at Meadowhall rose enough to flood - about eight feet - in under an hour, the last two feet in about five minutes. Almost every road out of Sheffield was flooded at some point - it took me exactly two hours to get from the centre to the M1, and I know the back roads well! The A617 coming into the town from J29 is under 3m of water! My wife is currently at Chesterfield hospital which is on a hill east of the town: every road that she could use to get away - in any direction - is impassible, and she started trying at 16:00! Before Sheffield I was in Hull and that was even worse - that was where the poor chap died with his foot stuck in railings. I have been a field tech covering either the North of England or latterly Yorkshire for 28 years and I have seen NEVER weather as bad as this - and I don't frighten easily. What are Yorkshire water shares like at the moment;?.... Barely afloat. mh. -- http://www.nukesoft.co.uk http://personal.nukesoft.co.uk From address is a blackhole. Reply-to address is valid. |
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Something's funny there. They must've had access to Fire Service &
Police Diver breathing apparatus (which would've kept him alive for a hour or so underwater), and they were surely carrying cutting equipment (which would've dealt with the trapped foot, by amputation in the last resort). Even without the technology, if they'd strapped a harness under him and then set 6 beefy firemen pulling hard he would've come free eventually (perhaps with a broken, torn or even missing foot). Will be interesting to hear the full story when it emerges. He died of the cold, not from drowning. After spending any length of time in cold water, the body will go in to hypothermia, then shock and eventually the heart goes into arrest as it tries to pump ever harder the blood around the body, so much so that it can't take the exertion required and the heart stops. Now clinically dead, however, brain death can take longer because of decreased cellular activity because of the cold. It is potentially possible to bring somebody back 'from the dead' at this point. |
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In article , Marcus Houlden
writes What are Yorkshire water shares like at the moment;?.... Barely afloat. LOL, but you can bet your wellies there'll be a hose pipe ban next month. Mike -- Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners. Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians. Yorkshire Halvard Lange |
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"tony sayer" wrote in message ... In article , harrogate3 writes You may choose to scoff, but I was in the S Yorks Fire Control Room just after lunch and believe me it was bad. The River Don at Meadowhall rose enough to flood - about eight feet - in under an hour, the last two feet in about five minutes. Almost every road out of Sheffield was flooded at some point - it took me exactly two hours to get from the centre to the M1, and I know the back roads well! The A617 coming into the town from J29 is under 3m of water! My wife is currently at Chesterfield hospital which is on a hill east of the town: every road that she could use to get away - in any direction - is impassible, and she started trying at 16:00! Before Sheffield I was in Hull and that was even worse - that was where the poor chap died with his foot stuck in railings. I have been a field tech covering either the North of England or latterly Yorkshire for 28 years and I have seen NEVER weather as bad as this - and I don't frighten easily. What are Yorkshire water shares like at the moment;?.... Has the hosepipe ban ben lifted yet? -- Tony Sayer |
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Andy Burns wrote:
On 25/06/2007 22:12, Derek Geldard wrote: What's the apostrophy for ? The missing "e" from where I verbed killfile? What missing 'e'? If it was missing it would have read "killfil'd", which is rather nice, but not what was written. On the other hand there's a missing 'e' in "apostrophy". -- "Checking identity papers is a complete waste of time. If anyone can be counted on to have valid papers, it will be the terrorists". |
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Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
"Derek Geldard" wrote in message What's the apostrophy for ? Its to indicate something is missing. How do you indicate a missing apostrophe? -- "Checking identity papers is a complete waste of time. If anyone can be counted on to have valid papers, it will be the terrorists". |
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On 25/06/2007 23:38, Mary Pegg wrote:
Lord Turkey Cough wrote: "Derek Geldard" wrote in message What's the apostrophy for ? Its to indicate something is missing. ^ | How do you indicate a missing apostrophe? Point at where it belongs with an arrow as above. |
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Mary Pegg wrote (apparently) in uk.tech.digital-tv on Mon 25 Jun 2007
23:38:10: Lord Turkey Cough wrote: "Derek Geldard" wrote in message What's the apostrophy for ? Its to indicate something is missing. How do you indicate a missing apostrophe? Generally by posting to the Usenet, I believe. -- MrGuest Always, seemingly, on the road to nowhere |
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On 25/06/2007 23:37, Mary Pegg wrote:
What missing 'e'? If it was missing it would have read "killfil'd", which is rather nice, but not what was written. killfile[ed] - killfile'd |
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"Mary Pegg" wrote in message ... Lord Turkey Cough wrote: "Derek Geldard" wrote in message What's the apostrophy for ? Its to indicate something is missing. How do you indicate a missing apostrophe? Its' done like that. -- "Checking identity papers is a complete waste of time. If anyone can be counted on to have valid papers, it will be the terrorists". |
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In article ,
Andy Burns wrote: killfile[ed] - killfile'd On the analogy of file + ed - file'd, presumably. -- Richard -- "Consideration shall be given to the need for as many as 32 characters in some alphabets" - X3.4, 1963. |
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On 26/06/2007 00:00, Richard Tobin wrote:
On the analogy of file + ed - file'd, presumably. or even as in Shakespeare A 'tis in my memory lock'd |
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Andy Burns wrote:
On 26/06/2007 00:00, Richard Tobin wrote: On the analogy of file + ed - file'd, presumably. or even as in Shakespeare A 'tis in my memory lock'd If old Will wrote "accursed" in one line and "accurs'd" fifteen lines later [1], there was a reason for it. "Killfile'd" is just wrong. [1] Romeo and Juliet, Act IV, Scene V: "Accursed time! unfortunate old man!" and then "Accurs'd, unhappy, wretched, hateful day!" -- "Checking identity papers is a complete waste of time. If anyone can be counted on to have valid papers, it will be the terrorists". |
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"Steve Walker" wrote in message ... Sam Nelson wrote: Some poor bloke drowning in front of a bunch of helpless firefighters because he had his foot trapped in a gate is pretty serious stuff. Isn;t it? Something's funny there. They must've had access to Fire Service & Police Diver breathing apparatus (which would've kept him alive for a hour or so underwater), and they were surely carrying cutting equipment (which would've dealt with the trapped foot, by amputation in the last resort). Even without the technology, if they'd strapped a harness under him and then set 6 beefy firemen pulling hard he would've come free eventually (perhaps with a broken, torn or even missing foot). Will be interesting to hear the full story when it emerges. From what I gleaned from the News. The fire & rescue service were in attendance for approx. 3 hours. they demolished a wall to try & divert the flof water. There came a point where they kept him alive by use of a mouth tube, which suggests to me that he was in such a position that they were unable to provide him with oxygen through a face mask. I've no doubt medics would have amputated his foot if that had been possible. That they didn't suggests this really was a freak set of circumstances. It's desperately sad as he was only 28 & trying to clear a drain for his grandfather. I also feel for the professionals who were on site for so long & will be thoroughly depressed that their skills & best efforts were insufficient to save him. -- Joe Lee |
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"Derek Geldard" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:54:40 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: On 25/06/2007 21:33, Lord Turkey Cough wrote: Ignore this, post I put a new one in. For the sake of a missing "i"? You could cancel the original message if you though people cared, or that most people hadn't killfile'd you. What's the apostrophy for ? It's generally used to denote that someone will come along shortly & spell the word "apostrophe" incorrectly :) -- Joe Lee DG |
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from "Lord Turkey Cough" contains these words: Well you would think so the way the news channels are going overvboard about it. Blimey you would think these people had never seen a heavy rain shower before!! A waste of the license payers money. Not really. It offers those of us who have endured the rain in a flood free environment some consolation and smugness in our choice of said location. I'd say it was value for money in this instance. -- Regards, John. Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying. The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots. |
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from Derek Geldard contains these words: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:54:40 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: On 25/06/2007 21:33, Lord Turkey Cough wrote: Ignore this, post I put a new one in. For the sake of a missing "i"? You could cancel the original message if you though people cared, or that most people hadn't killfile'd you. What's the apostrophy for ? I'm only guessin' 'ere, but I think it's to indicate his awareness of it, even tho' he hasn't quite grasped the rules of its usage. -- Regards, John. Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying. The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots. |
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On Jun 25, 11:25 pm, "Tom Bradbury" wrote:
He died of the cold, not from drowning. Surely not? it's England in June; summer. And if you believe the do-gooders, global warming is out of control so there's no possible way the water would or could have been cold enough to kill him. Unless global warming is a load of ******** of course...... |
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Huge wrote:
On 2007-06-25, Steve Walker wrote: Sam Nelson wrote: In article , says... Well you would think so the way the news channels are going overvboard about it. Blimey you would think these people had never seen a heavy rain shower before!! A waste of the license payers money. Some poor bloke drowning in front of a bunch of helpless firefighters because he had his foot trapped in a gate is pretty serious stuff. Isn;t it? Something's funny there. They must've had access to Fire Service & Police Diver breathing apparatus (which would've kept him alive for a hour or so underwater), and they were surely carrying cutting equipment (which would've dealt with the trapped foot, by amputation in the last resort). Even without the technology, if they'd strapped a harness under him and then set 6 beefy firemen pulling hard he would've come free eventually (perhaps with a broken, torn or even missing foot). That's exactly what I said to my wife. At some point, you put a harness on him and drag him out with a fire engine. Being alive with a missing foot beats the crap out of being dead. Perhaps the individual was asked for permission to amputate if necessary but refused to agree to the procedure? Having refused when conscious, that refusal will stay in force until either rescued or dead, IIUC. Even if access was very restricted, a helo overhead with a strop under his bottom should have popped (most of) him out in a second or two.. possibly a bit more humane that half a dozen firemen pulling away.. -- Sue |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 25, 11:25 pm, "Tom Bradbury" wrote: He died of the cold, not from drowning. Surely not? it's England in June; summer. And if you believe the do-gooders, global warming is out of control so there's no possible way the water would or could have been cold enough to kill him. Unless global warming is a load of ******** of course...... How cold do you think water needs to be to kill you? I'm no doctor but I think I can work out that even if it's as much as 10 degrees C that is still a bloody sight colder than normal body temperature (37C) and thus will soon leech away whatever heat you have in your totally immersed body. IIRC body temperature only has to drop by about 5 degrees or so to significantly threaten life. Try lying in a cold bath for a couple of hours.......... Strangely enough it's probably global warming that killed the poor sod - it only needs a small rise in average temperature to significantly increase water evaporation and hence produce more rainfall and hence the flooding we are currently suffering. Global warming is not out of control - it is we who are out of control. Global warming is just the planet's way of saying "**** off". Perhaps we ought to be listening? |
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reader02.plus.net, says... On 25/06/2007 23:38, Mary Pegg wrote: Lord Turkey Cough wrote: "Derek Geldard" wrote in message What's the apostrophy for ? Its to indicate something is missing. ^ | How do you indicate a missing apostrophe? Point at where it belongs with an arrow as above. Shame it only lines up if everybody's using the same font -- Snob? Were I a snob, I wouldn't be talking to you. |
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spamtrap.co.uk says... Mary Pegg wrote (apparently) in uk.tech.digital-tv on Mon 25 Jun 2007 23:38:10: Lord Turkey Cough wrote: "Derek Geldard" wrote in message What's the apostrophy for ? Its to indicate something is missing. How do you indicate a missing apostrophe? Generally by posting to the Usenet, I believe. [applause] -- Snob? Were I a snob, I wouldn't be talking to you. |
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On 26/06/2007 03:05, Johnny B Good wrote:
I think it's to indicate his awareness of it, even tho' he hasn't quite grasped the rules of its usage. The word killfiled feels "uncomfortable" without some way of showing how it was constructed, it's as though it was originally killfil and has had the suffix "ed" added, whereas the "e" was there all along. Of course the apostrophe is the pedant's favourite target, why has noone felt the need to correct the spelling of Sheffield in the subject? |
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On 26/06/2007 08:50, foghollow wrote:
Its to indicate something is missing. ^ | How do you indicate a missing apostrophe? Point at where it belongs with an arrow as above. Shame it only lines up if everybody's using the same font It shows up correctly when using *any* fixed spacing font, which is traditional for usenet, would you rather I top-posted and used HTML with 8-bit characters too? |
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Palindrome wrote:
Even if access was very restricted, a helo overhead with a strop under his bottom should have popped (most of) him out in a second or two.. possibly a bit more humane that half a dozen firemen pulling away.. Indeed - or even a JCB or forklift from any nearby site. I think your refusal of consent idea is probably behind this. |
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