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Randell Tarin June 20th 07 04:32 AM

up-rezzing DVD players
 
I'm not ready to invest in an HD or Blue-ray player until the format
becomes standardized.

What experience have any of you had with up-rezzing DVD players?

I have a large standard DVD collection and was wondering how good a job
these do in improving the picture.

I have a Pioneer 42" Plasma with 720p display.

Lloyd Parsons June 20th 07 04:42 AM

up-rezzing DVD players
 
In article . net,
Randell Tarin wrote:

I'm not ready to invest in an HD or Blue-ray player until the format
becomes standardized.

What experience have any of you had with up-rezzing DVD players?

I have a large standard DVD collection and was wondering how good a job
these do in improving the picture.

I have a Pioneer 42" Plasma with 720p display.


Some do better than others, of course.

I used to have a Sony upconverting changer that did quite well. A major
fault, imo, was that when you had it zoom, it showed the zoom you were
using (like x2 or some such) on screen the whole time you were zoomed.

Just for info, the Toshiba HDA2 HDDVD player not only does HDDVD, but it
upconverts standard DVDs better than almost all the upconverting DVD
players I saw.

Mutlley June 20th 07 04:52 AM

up-rezzing DVD players
 
Randell Tarin wrote:

I'm not ready to invest in an HD or Blue-ray player until the format
becomes standardized.

What experience have any of you had with up-rezzing DVD players?

I have a large standard DVD collection and was wondering how good a job
these do in improving the picture.

I have a Pioneer 42" Plasma with 720p display.



I have a Pioneer DV-490 and have tested it on a NEC plasma at 720P
and it looked good. I plan on getting a large screen TV next month so
if you buy an upscale player let us know how it went.

One thing though. This player plays DivX and MPeg4 files but is not
DivX altra and will not play back DivX HD content though the sound
will play.. The HD version of a DivX player is about US$299. Better
to go with a HD DVD player at US%250

Bill McClain June 20th 07 03:50 PM

up-rezzing DVD players
 
On 2007-06-20, Randell Tarin wrote:
I'm not ready to invest in an HD or Blue-ray player until the format
becomes standardized.


What experience have any of you had with up-rezzing DVD players?


I have a large standard DVD collection and was wondering how good a job
these do in improving the picture.


I have a Pioneer 42" Plasma with 720p display.


I've been pleased with my Oppo players. The Oppo 970 is $149 and is the one
recommended for plasma and DLP owners.

The Sony NS75H is less money and has gotten good reviews.

Many useful test reports he

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi

Much discussion he

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=18

Hint for using AVSForum: save your eyes by going to the bottom of the page and
selecting "AVS White" for the page style.

-Bill
--
Sattre Press Curiosities of the Sky
http://sattre-press.com/ by Garrett Serviss
http://sattre-press.com/csky.html

gowanoh June 20th 07 09:43 PM

up-rezzing DVD players
 
A high quality uprezzing DVD player, particularly if connected through HDMI,
should show obvious improvement in picture quality over the usual component
output setup.
Particularly on a 42 inch 720 screen there is no advantage whatsoever to
high definition DVDs.
If you have the ability to go to one of Sony's showrooms, at least in
Southern California they are at several malls, you should see what BluRay
looks like.
It is underwhelming, to say the least, compared to optimally played DVDs and
particularly so considering the price of the players and available
programming.
Unless your idea of great cinema is The Fifth Element.



Agent_C June 20th 07 11:19 PM

up-rezzing DVD players
 
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:43:03 GMT, "gowanoh"
wrote:

Particularly on a 42 inch 720 screen there is no advantage whatsoever to
high definition DVDs.


That's not at all accurate and you shouldn't be so dismissive. I have
both format players and can say with certainty that there's a
noticeable and worthwhile improvement. Not dramatic, but significant
nonetheless.

Certain titles that have been mastered with care really take on a 3D
dimension that I've never seen on standard DVD's.

Panasonic TH-42PX75U
Samsung BDP1000
Toshiba HD-A2

A_C

Lloyd Parsons June 20th 07 11:35 PM

up-rezzing DVD players
 
In article ,
Agent_C wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:43:03 GMT, "gowanoh"
wrote:

Particularly on a 42 inch 720 screen there is no advantage whatsoever to
high definition DVDs.


That's not at all accurate and you shouldn't be so dismissive. I have
both format players and can say with certainty that there's a
noticeable and worthwhile improvement. Not dramatic, but significant
nonetheless.

Certain titles that have been mastered with care really take on a 3D
dimension that I've never seen on standard DVD's.

Panasonic TH-42PX75U
Samsung BDP1000
Toshiba HD-A2

A_C


Amen to that!

And since a movie isn't just the picture, the advanced sound codecs on
HiDef DVDs is great!

Bill's News June 20th 07 11:41 PM

up-rezzing DVD players
 

"Randell Tarin" wrote in message
ink.net...
I'm not ready to invest in an HD or Blue-ray player until
the format becomes standardized.

What experience have any of you had with up-rezzing DVD
players?

I have a large standard DVD collection and was wondering how
good a job these do in improving the picture.

I have a Pioneer 42" Plasma with 720p display.


Among non-HD players, OPPO is recommended by many. I had one,
it was great. However, a DELL C521 (~$500 with ATI x1300 pro
g-card) is better. The form factor of the c521 is similar to
the Motorola HDVRs I have from Adelphia cable (now TW). The
c521 is quieter than a mute's whisper and, since it's a PC, has
no difficulty with any sort of audio/video encoding scheme,
whether SD or HD. It is connected, via DVI, to a 42" LCD 1080p
monitor.

While I have cable and OTA HDTV reception as well, I've not yet
felt the need for better images than these or the scaled SD
images via the ATI card. So, I'm holding off on choosing
between HD disc formats or needing to opt for both. NetFlix
lists for me those videos available in both HD formats as well
as SD. There are but two videos which I've not yet seen, but
might like to, among them. Clearly that will change as new
releases in HD occur.



Randell Tarin June 21st 07 03:37 AM

up-rezzing DVD players
 
Do you know if the OPPO has an optical audio output?

Bill's News wrote:
"Randell Tarin" wrote in message
ink.net...

I'm not ready to invest in an HD or Blue-ray player until
the format becomes standardized.

What experience have any of you had with up-rezzing DVD
players?

I have a large standard DVD collection and was wondering how
good a job these do in improving the picture.

I have a Pioneer 42" Plasma with 720p display.



Among non-HD players, OPPO is recommended by many. I had one,
it was great. However, a DELL C521 (~$500 with ATI x1300 pro
g-card) is better. The form factor of the c521 is similar to
the Motorola HDVRs I have from Adelphia cable (now TW). The
c521 is quieter than a mute's whisper and, since it's a PC, has
no difficulty with any sort of audio/video encoding scheme,
whether SD or HD. It is connected, via DVI, to a 42" LCD 1080p
monitor.

While I have cable and OTA HDTV reception as well, I've not yet
felt the need for better images than these or the scaled SD
images via the ATI card. So, I'm holding off on choosing
between HD disc formats or needing to opt for both. NetFlix
lists for me those videos available in both HD formats as well
as SD. There are but two videos which I've not yet seen, but
might like to, among them. Clearly that will change as new
releases in HD occur.



Alan June 21st 07 08:18 AM

up-rezzing DVD players
 
In article "gowanoh" writes:
A high quality uprezzing DVD player, particularly if connected through HDMI,
should show obvious improvement in picture quality over the usual component
output setup.


I asked this before, but got little traction.

Why would it be better?

What advantage is there in upconverting in the DVD player vs upconverting in
the display? The display logic knows any specific quirks of the display, which
the DVD player probably does not know.

A good display can handle the upconversion, can handle the 3:2 pulldown
conversion to progressive, etc.

In fact, if the output of an upconverting player is 1080i, and the display is
physically 1080p (as most fixed-pixel displays are), it would seem beneficial
to do the upconversion and interlace to progressive conversion in the display.

Alan


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