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I have a Freeview box (BT badged Netgem) that gives a signal strength,
quality and SNR reading for each channel.

Should these readings be similar on all six channels.

Geoff Lane

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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message

I have a Freeview box (BT badged Netgem) that gives a signal strength,
quality and SNR reading for each channel.

Should these readings be similar on all six channels.

I think they are all transmitted at the same strength, but local conditions
and aerial configuration may cause them to differ significantly.

So long as they are adequate for picture and sound without breakups, I
wouldn't worry.

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Max Demian wrote:
"Geoff Lane" wrote in message

I have a Freeview box (BT badged Netgem) that gives a signal strength,
quality and SNR reading for each channel.

Should these readings be similar on all six channels.

I think they are all transmitted at the same strength, but local conditions
and aerial configuration may cause them to differ significantly.

Some transmitters have the six muxes at different output powers, and/or some
muxes are restricted in some directions from the transmitter, so it depends
which transmitter you are referring to.

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I have a Freeview box (BT badged Netgem) that gives a signal strength,
quality and SNR reading for each channel.

Should these readings be similar on all six channels.

No. Some transmitters use different output powers on the different muxes.
Be aware that some of the muxes use QAM64, which almost always gives a
poorer "signal quality" reading.

Steve

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Steve Thackery wrote:
I have a Freeview box (BT badged Netgem) that gives a signal
strength, quality and SNR reading for each channel.

Should these readings be similar on all six channels.

No. Some transmitters use different output powers on the different
muxes. Be aware that some of the muxes use QAM64, which almost always
gives a poorer "signal quality" reading.

Steve


Sutton Coldfiled has Mux D at a higher output.


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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

Sutton Coldfiled has Mux D at a higher output.

Are you sure, everywhere I've looked it's listed as 8kW, just as the other five ?

http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/tx_m.html

http://www.wolfbane.com/ukdtt.htm

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/reception_advice/digital_trans_guide/index.asp-region=6.html

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Mark Carver wrote:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

Sutton Coldfiled has Mux D at a higher output.

Are you sure, everywhere I've looked it's listed as 8kW, just as the
other five ?
http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/tx_m.html

http://www.wolfbane.com/ukdtt.htm

I was going by Wolfbane, states 10kW, maybe they are wrong then.


http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/reception_advice/digital_trans_guide/index.asp-region=6.html

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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

Sutton Coldfiled has Mux D at a higher output.

Are you sure, everywhere I've looked it's listed as 8kW, just as the
other five ?
http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/tx_m.html

http://www.wolfbane.com/ukdtt.htm

I was going by Wolfbane, states 10kW, maybe they are wrong then.

I notice, looking at it again, that at the top of the page SC had an
experimental period of transmitting Mux D at 10kW. It states the experiment
has now terminated. Actually you're right, it does still list SC Mux D in the
main listing as 10kW. Ummmm.


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Mark Carver wrote:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

Sutton Coldfiled has Mux D at a higher output.

Are you sure, everywhere I've looked it's listed as 8kW, just as the
other five ?
http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/tx_m.html

http://www.wolfbane.com/ukdtt.htm

I was going by Wolfbane, states 10kW, maybe they are wrong then.

I notice, looking at it again, that at the top of the page SC had an
experimental period of transmitting Mux D at 10kW. It states the
experiment has now terminated. Actually you're right, it does still
list SC Mux D in the main listing as 10kW. Ummmm.

I see, hadn't noticed it was experimental and was a while back when I
last looked.

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Mark Carver wrote:

I have a Freeview box (BT badged Netgem) that gives a signal strength,
quality and SNR reading for each channel.

Should these readings be similar on all six channels.

Some transmitters have the six muxes at different output powers, and/or
some muxes are restricted in some directions from the transmitter, so it
depends which transmitter you are referring to.

Crystal Palace

Geoff Lane

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Steve Thackery wrote:
I have a Freeview box (BT badged Netgem) that gives a signal strength,
quality and SNR reading for each channel.

Should these readings be similar on all six channels.

No. Some transmitters use different output powers on the different muxes.
Be aware that some of the muxes use QAM64, which almost always gives a
poorer "signal quality" reading.

Yes, I had seen that mentioned before.

Geoff Lane

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Max Demian wrote:

I have a Freeview box (BT badged Netgem) that gives a signal strength,
quality and SNR reading for each channel.

Should these readings be similar on all six channels.

I think they are all transmitted at the same strength, but local conditions
and aerial configuration may cause them to differ significantly.

So long as they are adequate for picture and sound without breakups, I
wouldn't worry.

My daughter at HP1 (Hemel Hempstead) gets an occasional break up for a
considerable time period.

The freeview box shows good quality signal, I am thinking it could be
some local interference.

Geoff Lane

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"Geoff Lane" wrote in message

Mark Carver wrote:

I have a Freeview box (BT badged Netgem) that gives a signal
strength, quality and SNR reading for each channel.

Should these readings be similar on all six channels.

Some transmitters have the six muxes at different output powers,
and/or some muxes are restricted in some directions from the
transmitter, so it depends which transmitter you are referring to.

Crystal Palace

All the muxes from there are 20 kW.

Which ones appear to be weaker?

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In article ,
Max Demian wrote:
"Geoff Lane" wrote in message

Mark Carver wrote:

I have a Freeview box (BT badged Netgem) that gives a signal
strength, quality and SNR reading for each channel.

Should these readings be similar on all six channels.

Some transmitters have the six muxes at different output powers,
and/or some muxes are restricted in some directions from the
transmitter, so it depends which transmitter you are referring to.

Crystal Palace

All the muxes from there are 20 kW.

but are they all coming from the same tx aerial? I thought some were from
lower down the tower.

Which ones appear to be weaker?

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charles wrote:
In article ,
Max Demian wrote:

Crystal Palace

All the muxes from there are 20 kW.

but are they all coming from the same tx aerial? I thought some were from
lower down the tower.

Wolfblane's site lists all six muxes at CP as 321 metres AOD.

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In article ,
Mark Carver wrote:
charles wrote:
In article ,
Max Demian wrote:

Crystal Palace

All the muxes from there are 20 kW.

but are they all coming from the same tx aerial? I thought some were
from lower down the tower.

Wolfblane's site lists all six muxes at CP as 321 metres AOD.

is that info as trustworthy as the rest of theirs?

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charles wrote:
In article ,
Mark Carver wrote:

Wolfblane's site lists all six muxes at CP as 321 metres AOD.

is that info as trustworthy as the rest of theirs?

Fair point ! I've just dug out a paper copy of a 1998 ITC planning document,
that gives 211 metres above ground level for all six muxes.

Next question, is the ground at CP really 110 metres AOD ?

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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:02:30 +0100, Mark Carver
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Next question, is the ground at CP really 110 metres AOD ?

No, the 1:50,000 OS map gives it as 111 metres ;-)

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Max Demian wrote:


I have a Freeview box (BT badged Netgem) that gives a signal
strength, quality and SNR reading for each channel.

All the muxes from there are 20 kW.

Which ones appear to be weaker?

Crystal Palace Ch 25 and 28 which were stable, all the others were
showing erratic signal quality.

Most of time the picture on all channels is fine.

Geoff Lane