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Roderick Stewart June 16th 07 09:49 AM

Moon proves the green house effect is b*llocks
 
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 03:42:32 GMT, "Lord Turkey Cough"
wrote:

Do u judge someones intellilgence bytheir typing?


It's tempting to regard the evident care someone takes to express
their thoughts as an indication of the care they have taken working
out those thoughts in the first place.

Rod.

Irish Mike June 16th 07 10:46 AM

Moon proves the green house effect is b*llocks
 
CO2 only makes up about 2.0% of the gas in the atmosphere and many
scientists consider the whole global warming hysteria, and the methodology
used to collect the sample data, to be pure bull ****. It's ridiculous that
we have become obsessed with the danger of global warming which, even if it
does exist, will not occur until long after all of us are dead and gone.
Yet we gloss over the very real, and immediate danger from global islamic
terrorism, bio-chemical weapons, massive illegal immigration and the
development of atomic weapons by Iran and North Korea.

Irish Mike

"Cynic" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:00:29 -0700, "Another Problem Solved By R.G.P."
wrote:

On Jun 15, 7:34 am, Cynic wrote:

So what actions do you propose should be taken? Stop generating CO2
and return to the stone age? Quickly invest our entire GNP in wind
farms?


Oh my. Stone age! Our *entire* GNP! Are those are only options? But
let's talk wind power.

What percentage of US GNP (or GDP) -- would you guess -- *is*
currently invested in wind energy?

Answer: not very much. According to the American Wind Energy
Association, in 2005 wind power supplied 0.5% of electricity
consumption in the USA, the equivalent of only about 1.6 million
households. Meanwhile, in Denmark, parts of Germany and Spain, wind
power supplied over 20% of electricity demand. Why can they do it but
we can't? The AWEA estimates that $50 billion in new investment would
increase wind power-supplied electricity by 700% -- the equivalent of
about 11 million households -- and create 10,000 jobs, by the way. And
$50 billion is a drop in the GDP bucket. US GDP in 2005 was $12
trillion.


And if they spent "only" $50 billion and did that, what would be the
effect on global warming? Would it stop it? Reverse it? Delay it
(by how much)?

I'm sure that you and I could do *something* to reduce CO2 emissions
as well, perhaps by cycling everywhere instead of using our cars. The
reason that I won't consider such a thing is because it will have
absolutely zero practical effect in solving the problem. Teaspoons
and oceans again.

--
Cynic




Pyriform June 16th 07 11:12 AM

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charles wrote:
The problem with wind power, in this country, is that wind is not a
permanent thing.

An example: a couple of winters ago I drove round the M25 on a
freezing morning and passed the wind turbine near Hemel Hempstead.
No wind, so it was not turning at all - at a time when it was needed.


Even if it's turning, it may not be generating useful power. The available
power is proportional to the third power of the wind velocity, so the
difference in power generated between "blades rotating slowly" and "blades
feathered so the turbine doesn't destroy itself" is immense.

Apart from niche applications and offshore wind farms, I think they are
pretty much just green icons. Heavily subsidised green icons which are
making a lot of money for big business.



Pyriform June 16th 07 11:27 AM

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Irish Mike wrote:
CO2 only makes up about 2.0% of the gas in the atmosphere


You can't even get that right, can you? In fact, CO2 makes up only about
0.035% of the atmosphere. Which fact is entirely irrelevant to its role as a
greenhouse gas; it does what it does, in the amounts that it takes to do it.
Your argument is one commonly employed by very stupid people - the argument
from personal incredulity. You just can't believe it. Well here's another
fact to astound you: your body contains only 0.004% by weight of iron. Try
managing without it.

and many
scientists consider the whole global warming hysteria, and the
methodology used to collect the sample data, to be pure bull ****.


Oh do please share their findings with us. I could do with a laugh.



Gareth[_2_] June 16th 07 11:37 AM

Moon proves the green house effect is b*llocks
 
Pete wrote:

Scientists get paid a lot of money as they know no one will challenge
them.


Scientists do not get paid a lot of money and people do challenge them.

Selected ones are use to back up silly claims used in the
process of stealth taxing.


Don't plants and trees take in CO2 and give off oxygen at night?


No, plants give off CO2 at night, photosynthesis requires sunlight.

Maybe the answer is to plant lots more trees.


Yes, that could help

I think all the global warming and stealth tax lies are silly. Most
people can see what is really going on. Why is biodiesel taxed? Why
can't people use waste vegetable oil without being taxed?


I agree with you there, though biodiesel is taxed at a lower rate.


Why are there no controls on waste sites and chemical plants that
disregard regulations and laws at night and burn off waste illegally?
I have watched a few on thermal imaging equipment before compiling a
case.

Global warming, yes, natural progression - it's been happening for
thousands of years. Well before we had cars and coal fired power
stations.





Gareth[_2_] June 16th 07 11:44 AM

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Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
Guess what the temperature on the moon is (same distance
from the Sun as Earth. Very cold you will wisely say because it
has no atmosphere to keep it warm llike the earth with it's
lovely greehouse gases.
So you would expet it to be about -30C would you not?
Guess what it can get to over 100C there.


Over 100C in the day and below -150C at night so on average the moon is
much colder than the Earth



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Cynic June 16th 07 01:27 PM

Moon proves the green house effect is b*llocks
 
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:44:26 +0100, Gareth wrote:

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
Guess what the temperature on the moon is (same distance
from the Sun as Earth. Very cold you will wisely say because it
has no atmosphere to keep it warm llike the earth with it's
lovely greehouse gases.
So you would expet it to be about -30C would you not?
Guess what it can get to over 100C there.


Over 100C in the day and below -150C at night so on average the moon is
much colder than the Earth


Yup. And if you lay with your head in the frezzer nd your feet in the
oven, on average you will be at a perfectly comfortable temperature.

--
Cynic



Irish Mike June 16th 07 02:15 PM

Moon proves the green house effect is b*llocks
 
"Oh do please share their findings with us. I could do with a laugh. "

You may not like it, but the fact is there are many scientists who have
stated publicly that the whole global warming hysteria is just a load of
bull ****. They have also stated that the methodology used to collect the
data is flawed, unreliable and doesn't prove a thing. Just because you
swallowed this crap hook, line and sinker doesn't make it true. Any more
than it made the hysterical predictions about global starvation, global
cooling or Y2K true. The fact is, not one single person living on this
planet today will be alive to see any of your unfounded, hysterical global
warming predictions come to pass. Now, with all due respect, go ****
yourself.

Irish Mike

wrote in message
...
Irish Mike wrote:
CO2 only makes up about 2.0% of the gas in the atmosphere


You can't even get that right, can you? In fact, CO2 makes up only about
0.035% of the atmosphere. Which fact is entirely irrelevant to its role as
a greenhouse gas; it does what it does, in the amounts that it takes to do
it. Your argument is one commonly employed by very stupid people - the
argument from personal incredulity. You just can't believe it. Well here's
another fact to astound you: your body contains only 0.004% by weight of
iron. Try managing without it.

and many
scientists consider the whole global warming hysteria, and the
methodology used to collect the sample data, to be pure bull ****.


Oh do please share their findings with us. I could do with a laugh.




Pyriform June 16th 07 02:26 PM

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Irish Mike wrote:
"Oh do please share their findings with us. I could do with a laugh. "

You may not like it, but the fact is there are many scientists who
have stated publicly that the whole global warming hysteria is just a
load of bull ****.


And like you, they are talking out of their ample arses. That's why I wanted
you to share their findings with us - so that I could show you (well,
probably not you - I suspect you are ineducable!) how hopelessly wrong they
are. But you can't even do that, can you? You're just a clueless ****wit who
believes the crap fed to him by some denialist website.

Have you tried getting rid of that 0.004% of iron from your body yet? Do be
sure to report back your findings!



Cynic June 16th 07 03:25 PM

Moon proves the green house effect is b*llocks
 
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:26:54 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Irish Mike wrote:
"Oh do please share their findings with us. I could do with a laugh. "

You may not like it, but the fact is there are many scientists who
have stated publicly that the whole global warming hysteria is just a
load of bull ****.


And like you, they are talking out of their ample arses. That's why I wanted
you to share their findings with us - so that I could show you (well,
probably not you - I suspect you are ineducable!) how hopelessly wrong they
are. But you can't even do that, can you? You're just a clueless ****wit who
believes the crap fed to him by some denialist website.

Have you tried getting rid of that 0.004% of iron from your body yet? Do be
sure to report back your findings!


One finding that is pretty indisputable is that global warming is in
the process of taking place. It is highly probable (but not 100%
certain) that the trend will continue for quite some time.

Another fact is that the effects of global warming will not directly
affect myself or my children adversely before we are dead.

It is quite possible that man's activities have contributed to the
cycle to some extent, although the temperature cycle fits in neatly
with historic global cycles, so it is by no means certain that the
effect would not have happened anyway, without any input from mankind.

It is pretty certain that not even the most draconian actions that man
could do now would make any appreciable difference to the outcome, and
it is also pretty certain that man will not be taking anything like
the most draconian action possible.

By the time the effects are beginning to have an impact that would
affect mankind, is is almost certain that man will have developed far
more advanced technology. But even if that does not assist, nothing I
have read would suggest that the effects are likely to be particularly
catastrophic for mankind - nothing worse than many other catastophes,
both natural and manmade that have occured far more suddenly.

--
Cynic


Irish Mike June 16th 07 04:02 PM

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"Another fact is that the effects of global warming will not directly
affect myself or my children adversely before we are dead."

My point exactly. However, islamic terrorism, bio-chemical weapons, massive
illegal immigration and the development of nuclear weapons by Iran and N.
Korea may very well affect you and your children - profoundly.

A point that ass wipe, pyriform, lacks the mental capacity to grasp.

Irish Mike

"Cynic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:26:54 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Irish Mike wrote:
"Oh do please share their findings with us. I could do with a laugh. "

You may not like it, but the fact is there are many scientists who
have stated publicly that the whole global warming hysteria is just a
load of bull ****.


And like you, they are talking out of their ample arses. That's why I
wanted
you to share their findings with us - so that I could show you (well,
probably not you - I suspect you are ineducable!) how hopelessly wrong
they
are. But you can't even do that, can you? You're just a clueless ****wit
who
believes the crap fed to him by some denialist website.

Have you tried getting rid of that 0.004% of iron from your body yet? Do
be
sure to report back your findings!


One finding that is pretty indisputable is that global warming is in
the process of taking place. It is highly probable (but not 100%
certain) that the trend will continue for quite some time.

Another fact is that the effects of global warming will not directly
affect myself or my children adversely before we are dead.

It is quite possible that man's activities have contributed to the
cycle to some extent, although the temperature cycle fits in neatly
with historic global cycles, so it is by no means certain that the
effect would not have happened anyway, without any input from mankind.

It is pretty certain that not even the most draconian actions that man
could do now would make any appreciable difference to the outcome, and
it is also pretty certain that man will not be taking anything like
the most draconian action possible.

By the time the effects are beginning to have an impact that would
affect mankind, is is almost certain that man will have developed far
more advanced technology. But even if that does not assist, nothing I
have read would suggest that the effects are likely to be particularly
catastrophic for mankind - nothing worse than many other catastophes,
both natural and manmade that have occured far more suddenly.

--
Cynic




Pyriform June 16th 07 06:01 PM

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Irish Mike wrote:
[Nothing of any consequence - snipped]


Got rid of that 0.004% of iron from your body yet? It can't possibly be
doing anything important, can it? Hell, there's even less of it in
percentage terms than there is CO2 in the atmosphere!

And I'm still waiting for you to explain the flaws in scientific methodology
that have lead so may scientists to the wrong conclusions. Or is it just
that you read some other idiot saying that, and are now repeating it here
without the benefit of any of the alleged science ever having passed through
your thick head? No doubt in the fullness of time yet other idiot will
repeat the claim, perhaps citing you as an authority. Denialist research in
action!



Irish Mike June 16th 07 10:03 PM

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"Denialist research in action!"

Well bucko, you would certainly know about that. Your complete intolerance
of, and rabid hostility toward, those with opposing views on the issue of
global warming speaks volumes. Some people believe in this global warming
hysteria and others think it's bull ****. The point is, it doesn't matter.
Even if global warming did exist, you, me and every other person now living
on this planet, and their kids and their kids, kids will all be dead and
long gone before any of it would ever happen. And, by that time, assuming
some islamic nut case hasn't detonated a nuclear bomb in your back yard,
there will dozens of scientific advances and discoveries. Your fellow
hysterics will have latched on to a new crisis just like mass global
starvation, global cooling (you remember that one?) or Y2K. So you devote
the rest of your silly life to the dangers of global warming, keep current
on your Al Gore fan club dues and I'll be in the poker room.

Irish Mike

"Pyriform" wrote in message
...
Irish Mike wrote:
[Nothing of any consequence - snipped]


Got rid of that 0.004% of iron from your body yet? It can't possibly be
doing anything important, can it? Hell, there's even less of it in
percentage terms than there is CO2 in the atmosphere!

And I'm still waiting for you to explain the flaws in scientific
methodology that have lead so may scientists to the wrong conclusions. Or
is it just that you read some other idiot saying that, and are now
repeating it here without the benefit of any of the alleged science ever
having passed through your thick head? No doubt in the fullness of time
yet other idiot will repeat the claim, perhaps citing you as an authority.
Denialist research in action!





Pyriform June 16th 07 10:45 PM

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Irish Mike wrote:
Your complete
intolerance of, and rabid hostility toward, those with opposing views
on the issue of global warming speaks volumes. Some people believe
in this global warming hysteria and others think it's bull ****.


Indeed. And the people who think global warming (forget the hysteria bit) is
bull**** are idiots. Like you. It isn't a matter of personal preference;
it's a matter of sound science versus a mixture of bad science, misleading
information and outright lies. That's why you get such a hostile response
from me. Not because you have doubts about the science, or admit to not
understanding it. I don't have a problem with people like that. The trouble
with you is that you loudly announce to anyone within earshot that it's all
bull****, when it is quite clear that you have no understanding of the
subject at all. You are just a pub bore with a big mouth.

The point is, it doesn't matter. Even if global warming did exist, you,
me and every other person now living on this planet, and their kids
and their kids, kids will all be dead and long gone before any of it
would ever happen. And, by that time, assuming some islamic nut case
hasn't detonated a nuclear bomb in your back yard, there will dozens
of scientific advances and discoveries.


So basically, your position is that it isn't happening. Or it is happening,
but it doesn't matter, and anyway we'll be able to fix it in some
unspecified manner at some unspecified time in the future. You really *are*
an idiot.

Your fellow hysterics will
have latched on to a new crisis just like mass global starvation,
global cooling (you remember that one?) or Y2K.


Mass starvation is indeed a likely consequence of unconstrained global
warming. Not that I'd expect you to worry about that. The threat of global
cooling (in the 1970's sense) is largely a myth, in that it was unsupported
by the science of the time but greedily lapped up by the mass media - which
is why you remember it. Or perhaps you'd like to list the peer-reviewed
scientific literature of the time that supported that idea?

Y2K was always largely ********, as anyone with a brain could have told you
before the event.

I'll be in the poker room.


I'm sure you will.



Lord Turkey Cough[_2_] June 16th 07 11:52 PM

Moon proves the green house effect is b*llocks
 

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 01:26:44 +0100, Cynic
wrote:

Cynic wrote:
The *only* species of concern to me is mankind - and the probability
that the predicted global warming will significantly affect that
species is close to zero.

You appear to be an idiot. No wonder you think Lord Turkey ******** is
brighter than he seems.


So explain to me exactly how global wqarming is likely to adversely
affect me or any of my great great grandchildren


You mean when half the UK is under water, the remaining half is like
the Sahara, and there are no animals left to eat?



Nonsense if all the ice sheets melt we will gain a continent
(antartica) plus greenland, alaska and much of norhern
canada and russia.

We would be better off. We would also have more
sea for the fish to swim in (more food).

The excess water would be great for the UK given our droughts and
and, much the same for the rest of the world. We could irigate
the Sahara for example.


Global warming would produce an economic boom the likes of
you have never seen before.

We would also be able to get at Antartica vast oil reserves.


They'll die. That's how it will affect them.

Rod.




Lord Turkey Cough[_2_] June 17th 07 01:20 AM

Moon proves the green house effect is b*llocks
 

"charles" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
Another Problem Solved By R.G.P. wrote:
On Jun 15, 7:34 am, Cynic wrote:


So what actions do you propose should be taken? Stop generating CO2
and return to the stone age? Quickly invest our entire GNP in wind
farms?


Oh my. Stone age! Our *entire* GNP! Are those are only options? But
let's talk wind power.


What percentage of US GNP (or GDP) -- would you guess -- *is*
currently invested in wind energy?


The problem with wind power, in this country, is that wind is not a
permanent thing.

An example: a couple of winters ago I drove round the M25 on a freezing
morning and passed the wind turbine near Hemel Hempstead. No wind, so it
was not turning at all - at a time when it was needed.


Thats noproblem.

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11




Lord Turkey Cough[_2_] June 17th 07 01:21 AM

Moon proves the green house effect is b*llocks
 

"Another Problem Solved By R.G.P." wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jun 15, 7:34 am, Cynic wrote:

So what actions do you propose should be taken? Stop generating CO2
and return to the stone age? Quickly invest our entire GNP in wind
farms?


Oh my. Stone age! Our *entire* GNP! Are those are only options? But
let's talk wind power.

What percentage of US GNP (or GDP) -- would you guess -- *is*
currently invested in wind energy?

Answer: not very much. According to the American Wind Energy
Association, in 2005 wind power supplied 0.5% of electricity
consumption in the USA, the equivalent of only about 1.6 million
households. Meanwhile, in Denmark, parts of Germany and Spain, wind
power supplied over 20% of electricity demand.


Got a linkfor thosefigures?
I suspect they are wrong!!!!!

Why can they do it but
we can't? The AWEA estimates that $50 billion in new investment would
increase wind power-supplied electricity by 700% -- the equivalent of
about 11 million households -- and create 10,000 jobs, by the way. And
$50 billion is a drop in the GDP bucket. US GDP in 2005 was $12
trillion.




Cynic June 17th 07 11:20 AM

Moon proves the green house effect is b*llocks
 
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:45:03 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

So basically, your position is that it isn't happening. Or it is happening,
but it doesn't matter, and anyway we'll be able to fix it in some
unspecified manner at some unspecified time in the future. You really *are*
an idiot.


*You* are the idiot if you think that there is the slightest chance of
man doing anything to stop it. Instead of trying to blow against the
hurricane, it would be far better devoting your efforts into finding
the best ways to cope with the consequences - and perhaps even use
them to our advantage. Although the fact that the change is so
gradual means that that will happen as and when needed anyway.

There are many people saying, "We must do something - this is
'something' so we must do it." And a lot of others with the mentality
that the worse the medicine tastes, the more good it will do.

Mass starvation is indeed a likely consequence of unconstrained global
warming.


Is it? Really a *likely* consequence? Over how large a geographical
area? I am aware that some areas are likely to become infertile, but
that will only lead to mass starvation if there are poor people living
there when they do so. It won't happen overnight. Meanwhile other
areas that are presently infertile (and thus presently unpopulated)
will almost certainly become habitable.

--
Cynic


LeeJS June 18th 07 05:44 PM

Moon proves the green house effect is b*llocks
 
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:11:55 -0700, "Another Problem Solved By R.G.P."
wrote:

On Jun 13, 4:02 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" wrote:
Guess what the temperature on the moon is (same distance
from the Sun as Earth. Very cold you will wisely say because it
has no atmosphere to keep it warm llike the earth with it's
lovely greehouse gases.
So you would expet it to be about -30C would you not?
Guess what it can get to over 100C there.

PROOF THE GREENHOUSE GAS (CO2) THEORY IS WRONG.
A MYTH EXPOSED BY LORD TURKEY HIMSELF AND
HIS MASSIVE BRAIN.


You remind me of the guy who wrote to our local newspaper about his
experiment that "proved" that global warming won't raise the sea
level. He put some ice cubes in a glass of water and waited until they
melted. The glass didn't overflow. That's the "proof."

Yes, but that is a very valid point. Assuming that all of the ice in
icebergs was floating, his point would be absolutely true: the ice
above the water is not going to raise the surface level of the world's
oceans for exactly that reason. The water in the glass is merely
displaced by the ice above the surface.


Pyriform June 18th 07 07:43 PM

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LeeJS wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:11:55 -0700, "Another Problem Solved By R.G.P."
wrote:

On Jun 13, 4:02 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" wrote:
Guess what the temperature on the moon is (same distance
from the Sun as Earth. Very cold you will wisely say because it
has no atmosphere to keep it warm llike the earth with it's
lovely greehouse gases.
So you would expet it to be about -30C would you not?
Guess what it can get to over 100C there.

PROOF THE GREENHOUSE GAS (CO2) THEORY IS WRONG.
A MYTH EXPOSED BY LORD TURKEY HIMSELF AND
HIS MASSIVE BRAIN.


You remind me of the guy who wrote to our local newspaper about his
experiment that "proved" that global warming won't raise the sea
level. He put some ice cubes in a glass of water and waited until
they melted. The glass didn't overflow. That's the "proof."

Yes, but that is a very valid point. Assuming that all of the ice in
icebergs was floating, his point would be absolutely true: the ice
above the water is not going to raise the surface level of the world's
oceans for exactly that reason. The water in the glass is merely
displaced by the ice above the surface.


All of which is entirely irrelevant. Global warming raises sea levels by two
mechanisms: melting ice sheets which are *not* floating, and increasing the
volume of the oceans through thermal expansion. So he was just another
clueless idiot determined to share his ignorance with a wider audience.



Irish Mike June 18th 07 08:39 PM

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"So he was just another
clueless idiot determined to share his ignorance with a wider audience. "

Sounds like you found a soul mate.

Irish Mike


"Pyriform" wrote in message
...
LeeJS wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:11:55 -0700, "Another Problem Solved By R.G.P."
wrote:

On Jun 13, 4:02 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" wrote:
Guess what the temperature on the moon is (same distance
from the Sun as Earth. Very cold you will wisely say because it
has no atmosphere to keep it warm llike the earth with it's
lovely greehouse gases.
So you would expet it to be about -30C would you not?
Guess what it can get to over 100C there.

PROOF THE GREENHOUSE GAS (CO2) THEORY IS WRONG.
A MYTH EXPOSED BY LORD TURKEY HIMSELF AND
HIS MASSIVE BRAIN.

You remind me of the guy who wrote to our local newspaper about his
experiment that "proved" that global warming won't raise the sea
level. He put some ice cubes in a glass of water and waited until
they melted. The glass didn't overflow. That's the "proof."

Yes, but that is a very valid point. Assuming that all of the ice in
icebergs was floating, his point would be absolutely true: the ice
above the water is not going to raise the surface level of the world's
oceans for exactly that reason. The water in the glass is merely
displaced by the ice above the surface.


All of which is entirely irrelevant. Global warming raises sea levels by
two mechanisms: melting ice sheets which are *not* floating, and
increasing the volume of the oceans through thermal expansion. So he was
just another clueless idiot determined to share his ignorance with a wider
audience.




Pyriform June 18th 07 09:59 PM

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Irish Mike wrote:
"So he was just another
clueless idiot determined to share his ignorance with a wider
audience. "
Sounds like you found a soul mate.


Ah, the top-posting clueless ****wit returns. Do please hold us all
entranced as you explain the errors in my previous post. Here it is again:

All of which is entirely irrelevant. Global warming raises sea
levels by two mechanisms: melting ice sheets which are *not*
floating, and increasing the volume of the oceans through thermal
expansion. So he was just another clueless idiot determined to share
his ignorance with a wider audience.


Have you had that 0.004% of iron removed from your body yet? You can't
possibly need such a tiny amount, can you?



Irish Mike June 18th 07 10:09 PM

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You're stupid, but consistent. BTW, are you ever going to answer the
question of what concrete, practical steps you have personally taken to
avoid or at least minimize the impact of global warming? Or are you going
to keep dodging the question while rehashing the same lame hysterical rant?

Irish Mike

"Pyriform" wrote in message
...
Irish Mike wrote:
"So he was just another
clueless idiot determined to share his ignorance with a wider
audience. "
Sounds like you found a soul mate.


Ah, the top-posting clueless ****wit returns. Do please hold us all
entranced as you explain the errors in my previous post. Here it is again:

All of which is entirely irrelevant. Global warming raises sea
levels by two mechanisms: melting ice sheets which are *not*
floating, and increasing the volume of the oceans through thermal
expansion. So he was just another clueless idiot determined to share
his ignorance with a wider audience.


Have you had that 0.004% of iron removed from your body yet? You can't
possibly need such a tiny amount, can you?




Pyriform June 18th 07 10:23 PM

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Irish Mike wrote:
You're stupid, but consistent.


Accusations of stupidity need to be backed up with evidence. I've pointed
out the errors in your posts, but you have failed to find any in mine.
That's because there aren't any. I am consistently right, and you are
consistently wrong.

BTW, are you ever going to answer the
question of what concrete, practical steps you have personally taken
to avoid or at least minimize the impact of global warming?


Since I am only defending the science of global warming against the
"critiques" of idiots like you, no. I could have the largest CO2 footprint
on the planet, and I would still be right about the science, and you would
still be wrong.



Irish Mike June 18th 07 11:07 PM

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So despite your deluge of self-righteous, pompous rants about the dangers of
global warming you finally admit that you have not taken even one single
concrete, practical step to avoid or minimize the impact of that event.
What a ****ing hypocrite. You're like some one who rants and raves about
the evils of killing animals while walking around in a fur coat. Well you
phony, arrogant gas bag, the limited appeal this discussion held for me has
now been exhausted. Welcome to the kill file Ploink!

Irish Mike

"Pyriform" wrote in message
...
Irish Mike wrote:
You're stupid, but consistent.


Accusations of stupidity need to be backed up with evidence. I've pointed
out the errors in your posts, but you have failed to find any in mine.
That's because there aren't any. I am consistently right, and you are
consistently wrong.

BTW, are you ever going to answer the
question of what concrete, practical steps you have personally taken
to avoid or at least minimize the impact of global warming?


Since I am only defending the science of global warming against the
"critiques" of idiots like you, no. I could have the largest CO2 footprint
on the planet, and I would still be right about the science, and you would
still be wrong.




Richard Simms June 18th 07 11:10 PM

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:23:45 +0100, Pyriform wrote:

Irish Mike wrote:
You're stupid, but consistent.


Accusations of stupidity need to be backed up with evidence. ...


Knock it off guys. Bear in mind that this inter-group scrap was
started by the mentally troubled "lord Turkey Cough" crossposting
strange stuff. Let's end this thread now.

Old Wolf June 18th 07 11:57 PM

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On Jun 19, 9:07 am, "Irish Mike" wrote:
So despite your deluge of self-righteous, pompous rants about the dangers of
global warming you finally admit that you have not taken even one single
concrete, practical step to avoid or minimize the impact of that event.


One person's actions won't make a difference, but the action
of millions might. Also, generally people don't take action if
they don't see a good reason for doing so. So, the logical
thing to do is to try to convince people there is a good reason
for doing something about global warming. Which is indeed
what the guy is doing on this thread. He's taking the
practical step of trying to get you to understand.

It's the same thing with voting really. Which does more for
your cause -- casting one vote, or holding a rally to attract
masses of voters?


da pickle June 19th 07 12:21 AM

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"Richard Simms"

Knock it off guys. Bear in mind that this inter-group scrap was
started by the mentally troubled "lord Turkey Cough" crossposting
strange stuff. Let's end this thread now.


Yeah ... you are all acting like Nazis!!!!!!



Pyriform June 19th 07 12:32 AM

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Irish Mike wrote:
So despite your deluge of self-righteous, pompous rants about the
dangers of global warming you finally admit that you have not taken
even one single concrete, practical step to avoid or minimize the
impact of that event.


You won't be reading this, but of course I admitted to no such thing. Your
failure to comprehend the English language rivals your scientific
ineptitude.

Welcome to the kill file Ploink!


I suspect that will not greatly inconvenience me.



Scott[_3_] June 19th 07 07:05 PM

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Cynic wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:45:03 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

So basically, your position is that it isn't happening. Or it is happening,
but it doesn't matter, and anyway we'll be able to fix it in some
unspecified manner at some unspecified time in the future. You really *are*
an idiot.


*You* are the idiot if you think that there is the slightest chance of
man doing anything to stop it.


On what basis do you think carbon sequestration is impossible? It certainly
isn't economically impossible nor is it technically impossible.


Cynic June 19th 07 07:53 PM

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:05:18 +0100, Scott
wrote:

So basically, your position is that it isn't happening. Or it is happening,
but it doesn't matter, and anyway we'll be able to fix it in some
unspecified manner at some unspecified time in the future. You really *are*
an idiot.


*You* are the idiot if you think that there is the slightest chance of
man doing anything to stop it.


On what basis do you think carbon sequestration is impossible? It certainly
isn't economically impossible nor is it technically impossible.


It would also be technically and economically feasible to cease all
military activity on the planet.

--
Cynic



Scott[_3_] June 19th 07 09:20 PM

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Cynic wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:05:18 +0100, Scott
wrote:

So basically, your position is that it isn't happening. Or it is happening,
but it doesn't matter, and anyway we'll be able to fix it in some
unspecified manner at some unspecified time in the future. You really *are*
an idiot.


*You* are the idiot if you think that there is the slightest chance of
man doing anything to stop it.


On what basis do you think carbon sequestration is impossible? It certainly
isn't economically impossible nor is it technically impossible.


It would also be technically and economically feasible to cease all
military activity on the planet.


I don't see how that answers the question.

Cynic June 20th 07 01:52 AM

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:20:18 +0100, Scott
wrote:

On what basis do you think carbon sequestration is impossible? It certainly
isn't economically impossible nor is it technically impossible.


It would also be technically and economically feasible to cease all
military activity on the planet.


I don't see how that answers the question.


It does, trust me.

--
Cynic



Pyriform June 20th 07 02:19 AM

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Cynic wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:20:18 +0100, Scott
wrote:

On what basis do you think carbon sequestration is impossible? It
certainly isn't economically impossible nor is it technically
impossible.


It would also be technically and economically feasible to cease all
military activity on the planet.


I don't see how that answers the question.


It does, trust me.


Why should he trust you? You're an idiot.



Cynic June 20th 07 02:30 AM

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:19:15 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

On what basis do you think carbon sequestration is impossible? It
certainly isn't economically impossible nor is it technically
impossible.


It would also be technically and economically feasible to cease all
military activity on the planet.


I don't see how that answers the question.


It does, trust me.


Why should he trust you? You're an idiot.


So you're another person who doesn't understand the (fairly obvious)
connection. Ah well, never mind, it will probably come to you.

--
Cynic


Pyriform June 20th 07 09:21 AM

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Cynic wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:19:15 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

On what basis do you think carbon sequestration is impossible? It
certainly isn't economically impossible nor is it technically
impossible.


It would also be technically and economically feasible to cease
all military activity on the planet.


I don't see how that answers the question.


It does, trust me.


Why should he trust you? You're an idiot.


So you're another person who doesn't understand the (fairly obvious)
connection. Ah well, never mind, it will probably come to you.


I was making an entirely general observation. It's a great time saver.



Cynic June 20th 07 11:14 AM

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:21:07 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Why should he trust you? You're an idiot.


So you're another person who doesn't understand the (fairly obvious)
connection. Ah well, never mind, it will probably come to you.


I was making an entirely general observation. It's a great time saver.


Projection does indeed give the appearance of having insights into
other people.

--
Cynic


Richard Simms June 20th 07 12:39 PM

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:14:13 +0100, Cynic wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:21:07 +0100, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Why should he trust you? You're an idiot.

So you're another person who doesn't understand the (fairly obvious)
connection. Ah well, never mind, it will probably come to you.


I was making an entirely general observation. It's a great time saver.


Projection does indeed give the appearance of having insights into
other people.


Well, nobody is saying anything constructive, so I'd suggest that you
all stop indulging the troll that started this crossposted thread and
end here, unless you want to be branded as netdrunks.


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