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Movilla[_2_] May 28th 07 05:34 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 
Is there any way to turn off the PIN requirement for the new Sky Movies
channels? I can't find this option in the set-up menus.



John Russell May 28th 07 05:58 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 

"Movilla" wrote in message
...
Is there any way to turn off the PIN requirement for the new Sky Movies
channels? I can't find this option in the set-up menus.


I.m afraid the "do gooders" insist the likes of SKY don't allow little
kiddies access to X rated material. You can't make "child protection"
optional.



the dog from that film you saw[_2_] May 28th 07 06:00 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 

"John Russell" wrote in message
...

"Movilla" wrote in message
...
Is there any way to turn off the PIN requirement for the new Sky Movies
channels? I can't find this option in the set-up menus.


I.m afraid the "do gooders" insist the likes of SKY don't allow little
kiddies access to X rated material. You can't make "child protection"
optional.



it's not that simple.
if sky want to air 15 and 18 films before the watershed, they have to be
done that way.



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/



Nigel Barker May 28th 07 06:03 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 
On Mon, 28 May 2007 16:58:24 +0100, "John Russell" wrote:


"Movilla" wrote in message
...
Is there any way to turn off the PIN requirement for the new Sky Movies
channels? I can't find this option in the set-up menus.


I.m afraid the "do gooders" insist the likes of SKY don't allow little
kiddies access to X rated material. You can't make "child protection"
optional.


It's the price that is paid for airing adult rated content pre-watershed. It is not a problem for
any channel on Freeview because they never show adult content pre-watershed.
--

Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Movilla[_2_] May 28th 07 07:00 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 
"the dog from that film you saw" wrote
in message ...

"John Russell" wrote in message
...

"Movilla" wrote in message
...
Is there any way to turn off the PIN requirement for the new Sky Movies
channels? I can't find this option in the set-up menus.


I.m afraid the "do gooders" insist the likes of SKY don't allow little
kiddies access to X rated material. You can't make "child protection"
optional.


it's not that simple.
if sky want to air 15 and 18 films before the watershed, they have to be
done that way.


I understand the logic behind it, but I would have thought there would be an
option to switch the whole thing off. There must be a decent proportion of
Sky customers without any kids.



the dog from that film you saw[_2_] May 28th 07 07:38 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 

"Movilla" wrote in message
...


it's not that simple.
if sky want to air 15 and 18 films before the watershed, they have to be
done that way.


I understand the logic behind it, but I would have thought there would be
an option to switch the whole thing off. There must be a decent
proportion of Sky customers without any kids.



maybe ofcom think lazy parents would turn it off for their own benefit kids
or not ?




--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/



Tel May 28th 07 10:39 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 
"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 May 2007 16:58:24 +0100, "John Russell"

wrote:


"Movilla" wrote in message
...
Is there any way to turn off the PIN requirement for the new Sky Movies
channels? I can't find this option in the set-up menus.


I.m afraid the "do gooders" insist the likes of SKY don't allow little
kiddies access to X rated material. You can't make "child protection"
optional.


It's the price that is paid for airing adult rated content pre-watershed.

It is not a problem for
any channel on Freeview because they never show adult content

pre-watershed.
--

Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur


Well, there was a "12" rated film PIN protected today - hardly adult
viewing!!

TC


the dog from that film you saw[_2_] May 28th 07 11:17 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 

"Tel" wrote in message ...


It's the price that is paid for airing adult rated content pre-watershed.

It is not a problem for
any channel on Freeview because they never show adult content

pre-watershed.



Well, there was a "12" rated film PIN protected today - hardly adult
viewing!!





but even so - a 12 rated film can't be shown at any old time of day.... -
not unless it's pin protected.



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/



John Russell May 29th 07 11:39 AM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 

"the dog from that film you saw" wrote
in message ...

"Tel" wrote in message ...


It's the price that is paid for airing adult rated content
pre-watershed.

It is not a problem for
any channel on Freeview because they never show adult content

pre-watershed.



Well, there was a "12" rated film PIN protected today - hardly adult
viewing!!





but even so - a 12 rated film can't be shown at any old time of day.... -
not unless it's pin protected.



--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/


They even "assume" that any manual recording after 9 "might" be adult and
require the user to access via the pin. Either Chan5 or Chan 4 indicate to
the box when programs (films) are adult and they also require the pin. I bet
Chan4 don't do that with Big Brother.



Gaz May 29th 07 10:26 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 
John Russell wrote:
"Movilla" wrote in message
...
Is there any way to turn off the PIN requirement for the new Sky Movies
channels? I can't find this option in the set-up menus.


I.m afraid the "do gooders" insist the likes of SKY don't allow little
kiddies access to X rated material. You can't make "child protection"
optional.


No. Sky insist on it, because it makes timed recordings impossible and
promotes their sky plus.

Gaz



Zero Tolerance May 30th 07 01:10 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 
On Tue, 29 May 2007 21:26:57 +0100, "Gaz" wrote:

No. Sky insist on it, because it makes timed recordings impossible and
promotes their sky plus.


No, OFCOM insist on it - and they call the shots about what you can
and cannot watch on TV, not Sky.

Read this - look at point 44:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/about/csg/ofcom_board/notes/51

--

Roger Wilmut May 30th 07 05:59 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 
In article , Zero Tolerance
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2007 21:26:57 +0100, "Gaz" wrote:

No. Sky insist on it, because it makes timed recordings impossible and
promotes their sky plus.


No, OFCOM insist on it - and they call the shots about what you can
and cannot watch on TV, not Sky.

Read this - look at point 44:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/about/csg/ofcom_board/notes/51


Yes, OFCOM insist on it, but before the PIN business started Sky didn't
show adult-rated films before the watershed. Now they are using the PIN
as an excuse to do so, with the result that they can't be recorded on
anything but Sky+. I suppose this could be deliberate, but I think it's
just the same mindset as the BBC, who have been pretending that video
recorders don't exist for the last 25 years.

the dog from that film you saw[_2_] May 30th 07 06:26 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 

"Roger Wilmut" wrote in message
. ..


No, OFCOM insist on it - and they call the shots about what you can
and cannot watch on TV, not Sky.

Read this - look at point 44:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/about/csg/ofcom_board/notes/51


Yes, OFCOM insist on it, but before the PIN business started Sky didn't
show adult-rated films before the watershed. Now they are using the PIN
as an excuse to do so, with the result that they can't be recorded on
anything but Sky+. I suppose this could be deliberate, but I think it's
just the same mindset as the BBC, who have been pretending that video
recorders don't exist for the last 25 years.




given that they now 'theme' their channels, what would they air on their
horror channel between 5am and 10pm? - other than an overdose of sci fi.

given the low price of a sky+ box it's beyond me why anyone would settle for
a regular sky box if they are a film subscriber.


--
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/



Movilla[_2_] May 30th 07 10:53 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 
"the dog from that film you saw" wrote
in message ...

given the low price of a sky+ box it's beyond me why anyone would settle
for a regular sky box if they are a film subscriber.


I live in an apartment block that has only a single feed to each apartment.
So I cant make use of the watch and record ability of Sky+. I was waiting
to see what happens with the possible upcoming change to this (as mentioned
before on this group), plus I was also mulling over how good the new BT
Vision was.

Right now, I just feel that the selection of movies shown in the new Sky
Movies is not as good as the old Sky Movies.



Zero Tolerance May 31st 07 01:51 PM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 15:59:06 GMT, Roger Wilmut
wrote:

Yes, OFCOM insist on it, but before the PIN business started Sky didn't
show adult-rated films before the watershed.


Before the PIN business started Sky COULDN'T show adult-rated films
before the watershed and had to fill the daytime hours of the movies
with largely inoffensive made-for-TV daytime pap.

--

JohnT June 2nd 07 11:50 AM

Sky Movies - No PIN
 
On Wed, 30 May 2007 21:53:41 +0100, "Movilla"
in message
, wrote:

I live in an apartment block that has only a single feed to each apartment.
So I cant make use of the watch and record ability of Sky+.


I guess you already know but to clarify for others living in flats with
only one Sky digital cable - you can still use the record function of Sky+
but can only watch one channel at a time, i.e. you cannot record and watch
a different channel.

john


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