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The Sky+ £10 fee letter hath arrived
DannyT wrote:
You obviously love your apostrophes, but the plural of box is boxes. geekOr boxen.../geek |
The Sky+ £10 fee letter hath arrived
On Sun, 27 May 2007 16:04:47 GMT, "DannyT" wrote:
Nigel Barker wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:58:55 GMT, "DannyT" wrote: Nigel Barker wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2007 17:59:15 +0100, "the dog from that film you saw" wrote: "Light of Aria" wrote in message ... "Ed" wrote in message ups.com... And as I said a while ago, the £10 fee is dropped for any sky package from 1 July. It will remain for anyone with NO sky digital subscription unfortunately, so basically a two mix package for £15 a month is now the most financially sensible way to be able to use the recording features of the box as at least you get some channels for your money! Yeeesss. My Topfield has a monthly fee of £0 and doesn't come with **** channels. and doesnt receive satellite tv either - i didnt realise a cock waving contest had started. To be fair there are equivalent FTA digital satellite dual tuner PVRs that can be bought for around the same price e.g. http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...=14&doy=search What kind of epg would such a device have? If it's just 'now/next' it wouldn't be much use to most people. Perhaps there's a way of using it with a third party epg? While the lack of an EPG is a bit of a drawback you should be able to set up manual recordings by time & channel. This method was good enough for us all to use for 20+ years with VCRs. The best bet is to wait for the launch of the BBC's Freesat service next year as the receivers will have a full EPG. Excellent news! Will there be a PVR designed to work with it (without a monthly fee)? Yes, that was part of the plan plus HDTV. -- Cheers Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur |
The Sky+ £10 fee letter hath arrived
"Nigel Barker" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:58:04 +0100, "Gaz" wrote: John Russell wrote: Sky contract the design of box's to their spec for use by SKY customers. SKY are not in the business of producing box's for general use. SKY are not responsible for the crap design of non SKY box's! Sky will not allow the use of their cam in non approved boxes, to keep a tight reign on what will be the future pvr market. Sky+ is a truly awful retarded product, which has had little innovation over the last few years, using outdated technology and interface. It will not change, because it doesnt have to, it is the only game in town, because nobody else has access to the cam. The User Interface for Sky & SKy+ has not changed since launch. It looks very old & clunky compared to Vista Media Center for example. The UI for the Sky HD box is just the same. It's crazy as by definition the user must have an HDTV so why is the UI designed for an SDTV? If you don't like it get Virgin Media! |
The Sky+ £10 fee letter hath arrived
"DannyT" wrote in message . uk... John Russell wrote: "Gaz" wrote in message ... John Russell wrote: "Nigel Barker" wrote in message ... Exactly. The SKY+ is designed for those who want SKY channels. One minute posters condemn SKY's kit for being crap, the next they can't find anything as good as the SKY+ elsewhere and blame SKY for that as well. A pvr that wishes to access subscription based sky channels has to capture the signal in an anolgue fashion. This increases manufacturing costs massively, and reduces the picture quality, it also makes dual lnb feature impossible. This is the direct fault of sky, who prevent their box manufacturers from accessing the cam with equipment that is not SKY+. An open cam (the encryption is not at risk), would result in an avalaunch of tivo like variants on the market, and not what is in essence a retarded sky+ interface. Imagine xp media centre with cam access to sky and skyhd? It would give incredible picture and flexibility. Gaz Sky contract the design of box's to their spec for use by SKY customers. SKY are not in the business of producing box's for general use. SKY are not responsible for the crap design of non SKY box's! You obviously love your apostrophes, but the plural of box is boxes. ....and the your point is? Perhaps you'd like some kind of phonetic alphabet used on the Web so you can poor scorn on accents? |
The Sky+ £10 fee letter hath arrived
On Sun, 27 May 2007 18:33:58 +0100, "John Russell" wrote:
"Nigel Barker" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:58:04 +0100, "Gaz" wrote: John Russell wrote: Sky contract the design of box's to their spec for use by SKY customers. SKY are not in the business of producing box's for general use. SKY are not responsible for the crap design of non SKY box's! Sky will not allow the use of their cam in non approved boxes, to keep a tight reign on what will be the future pvr market. Sky+ is a truly awful retarded product, which has had little innovation over the last few years, using outdated technology and interface. It will not change, because it doesnt have to, it is the only game in town, because nobody else has access to the cam. The User Interface for Sky & SKy+ has not changed since launch. It looks very old & clunky compared to Vista Media Center for example. The UI for the Sky HD box is just the same. It's crazy as by definition the user must have an HDTV so why is the UI designed for an SDTV? If you don't like it get Virgin Media! Not an option for the majority of the population in the UK. -- Cheers Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur |
The Sky+ £10 fee letter hath arrived
"Nigel Barker" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 May 2007 18:33:58 +0100, "John Russell" wrote: "Nigel Barker" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:58:04 +0100, "Gaz" wrote: John Russell wrote: Sky contract the design of box's to their spec for use by SKY customers. SKY are not in the business of producing box's for general use. SKY are not responsible for the crap design of non SKY box's! Sky will not allow the use of their cam in non approved boxes, to keep a tight reign on what will be the future pvr market. Sky+ is a truly awful retarded product, which has had little innovation over the last few years, using outdated technology and interface. It will not change, because it doesnt have to, it is the only game in town, because nobody else has access to the cam. The User Interface for Sky & SKy+ has not changed since launch. It looks very old & clunky compared to Vista Media Center for example. The UI for the Sky HD box is just the same. It's crazy as by definition the user must have an HDTV so why is the UI designed for an SDTV? If you don't like it get Virgin Media! Not an option for the majority of the population in the UK. -- Life's a bitch! I suggest you start your own company if accepting the limitations of being a customer is getting you down. |
The Sky+ £10 fee letter hath arrived
at least I can set recordings of different qualities so I can do radio
stations in basic quality (since it only affects the picture) and maximise the hard drive space that way (since Sky+ only records at one quality setting). The SKY+ "dumps" the broadcast to disk. This is actually helpful as most broadcasts are low bitrate crap. It's the perfect way of getting "adaptive" recording where the space taken up on the disk reflects the quality of the broadcast. |
The Sky+ £10 fee letter hath arrived
"steeler" wrote in message m... "Nigel Barker" wrote in message ... On 26 May 2007 16:58:31 -0700, wrote: No channel 4 or 5 either The receiver I linked to does have dual CI so you could use a couple of Dragon/T.Rex CAMs with FTV cards although that does push the price up a bit enough for a couple of years subscription to Sky+ in fact. -- Good point. I know someone who paid about £600 for a professionally fitted motorised dish and all the trimmings so he could watch foreign football feeds. £600 buys a lot of subs. I doubt you could even get a Brentford sub for £600 these days. -- Tumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com |
The Sky+ £10 fee letter hath arrived
"Dom Robinson" wrote in message ... in software by a mile, in hardware nowhere near - inferior picture and sound, only 1 tuner. Here we go again... Best Quality on a TiVo is a negligible difference to the original quality, and at least I can set recordings of different qualities so I can do radio stations in basic quality (since it only affects the picture) and maximise the hard drive space that way (since Sky+ only records at one quality setting). Sure, an extra tuner would be nice, and we'd have it if TiVo had taken off in the UK since they're on a lovely HD model in the US, but the majority of stuff I want to record is repeated within the week and TiVo searches out the alternate broadcasts very easily. i'm just being honest..... tivo won't capture the 5.1 sound either and when i last used mine many channels simply had no listings at all and others like eurosport were totally wrong. -- Gareth. That fly... is your magic wand. http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/ |
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