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Dave Oldridge May 23rd 07 10:40 AM

Another dumb question..
 
"luckyvic" wrote in news:3EI4i.22$4b4.16
@newsfe03.lga:


Then, depending on your distance from the stations, you ought to be able to
hook up an antenna and get some direct over-the-air high definition. I
think, once you've seen it, you'll find that you're addicted to HDTV.

I'm too far up the Fraser Valley to get any direct stuff here, but my
satellite provider is shipping me a new receiver this week that will give
me a bunch more channels of it (I think they've implemented MPEG4 on a set
of transponders and the new receiver is ready to go).

You'll need to decide whether to upgrade to an HD cable box, though, or
switch to satellite, or use an antenna.

Don't be fooled by hype that says you need a special "digital" antenna.
ALL antennas are analog devices and the analog-to-digital conversion is
always done in the receiver. There is no such thing as a specifically
"HDTV" antenna.


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luckyvic May 23rd 07 04:02 PM

Another dumb question..
 
OK, thank you for the info. Now I understand all the options there are, now
to decide which will work out.


"Dave Oldridge" wrote in message
9...
"luckyvic" wrote in news:3EI4i.22$4b4.16
@newsfe03.lga:


Then, depending on your distance from the stations, you ought to be able
to
hook up an antenna and get some direct over-the-air high definition. I
think, once you've seen it, you'll find that you're addicted to HDTV.

I'm too far up the Fraser Valley to get any direct stuff here, but my
satellite provider is shipping me a new receiver this week that will give
me a bunch more channels of it (I think they've implemented MPEG4 on a set
of transponders and the new receiver is ready to go).

You'll need to decide whether to upgrade to an HD cable box, though, or
switch to satellite, or use an antenna.

Don't be fooled by hype that says you need a special "digital" antenna.
ALL antennas are analog devices and the analog-to-digital conversion is
always done in the receiver. There is no such thing as a specifically
"HDTV" antenna.


--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667



=\(8\) May 25th 07 03:41 AM

Another dumb question..
 
"luckyvic" wrote in message
...
I did some research and found some interesting and depressing info.

Cable programs are delivered two different ways.

1 With no cable box,just the cable from the wall connected to the tv.You
are getting analog signals from the cable company.These look ok on tv's
smaller than 19" but as the screen size increases the picture looks
grainy.

2. With a cable box the channels from 1-99 are analog.Then the rest are
digital which will look good on any size set. For HD you need a HD cable
box which still has 1-99 as analog and digital channels but adds the HD
channels. ( cable cards can replace a HD cable box if you HD set has a
cable card slot)



People buy HD sets for access to HD channels and put up with the bad
analog channels.If you don't plan on upgrading to HD with your cable
system then I would not spend the money on a HD set.

If you watch dvds then a HD set would give you that movie experience.

You must consider what you watch and ask "Is a hd set worth it to me?"



"luckyvic" wrote in message
...
I just purchased a Samsung T-T2793H HDTV and it's connected to the wall
outlet (Charter Cable Basic Extended). The picture is grainy/blured at
times. When I set the auto-programing I 3 choices STD, HRC & IRC for the
Air and Cable tunings, I used STD. Did I do the correct thing or not?
Thanks in advance for any info/help.




But then you have another class of people like myself that could careless
about cable or satellite channels and want a 60" TV for the theater feel
while watching DVDs and would gladly buy a non-HDTV if one was available in
60". I find it amazing that these things cost so much and yet so little
programming is available (at least programming not on the crappy cable
channels). HD was and is a suckers bet. They have everyone convinced it is
so much better yet very little makes good use of it and most HD programming
is 720 besides. I guess the electronics companies, the federal government in
their rush to rake the bucks selling the analog spectrum and the cable and
satellite companies looking to gouge customers more found a great suckers
bet.

=(8)


G-squared May 25th 07 07:23 AM

Another dumb question..
 
On May 24, 6:41 pm, "=\(8\)" wrote:
snip
But then you have another class of people like myself that could

careless
about cable or satellite channels and want a 60" TV for the theater

feel
while watching DVDs and would gladly buy a non-HDTV if one was

available in
60". I find it amazing that these things cost so much and yet so

little
programming is available (at least programming not on the crappy

cable
channels). HD was and is a suckers bet. They have everyone

convinced it is
so much better yet very little makes good use of it and most HD

programming
is 720 besides. I guess the electronics companies, the federal

government in
their rush to rake the bucks selling the analog spectrum and the

cable and
satellite companies looking to gouge customers more found a great

suckers
bet.

=(8)


No programming? Where do you live? ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, PBS run lots of
HD content in prime time. I don't have enough time to watch it all.
ABC and Fox are 720, the others are 1080i. BTW, I use OTA only for HD.

I think you're Bob Miller (or one of his clones)

GG


=\(8\) May 25th 07 05:41 PM

Another dumb question..
 
"G-squared" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 24, 6:41 pm, "=\(8\)" wrote:
snip
But then you have another class of people like myself that could

careless
about cable or satellite channels and want a 60" TV for the theater

feel
while watching DVDs and would gladly buy a non-HDTV if one was

available in
60". I find it amazing that these things cost so much and yet so

little
programming is available (at least programming not on the crappy

cable
channels). HD was and is a suckers bet. They have everyone

convinced it is
so much better yet very little makes good use of it and most HD

programming
is 720 besides. I guess the electronics companies, the federal

government in
their rush to rake the bucks selling the analog spectrum and the

cable and
satellite companies looking to gouge customers more found a great

suckers
bet.

=(8)


No programming? Where do you live? ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, PBS run lots of
HD content in prime time. I don't have enough time to watch it all.
ABC and Fox are 720, the others are 1080i. BTW, I use OTA only for HD.

I think you're Bob Miller (or one of his clones)

GG


Sorry don't know bob millar. As for 1080i according to the stations within
100 miles none of them are doing 1080i only 720. Still see no need or desire
for HD, just want an ultra large screen to watch my DVDs on.

=(8)


[email protected] May 25th 07 06:22 PM

Another dumb question..
 
"=\(8\)" wrote:
"G-squared" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 24, 6:41 pm, "=\(8\)" wrote:
snip
But then you have another class of people like myself that could

careless
about cable or satellite channels and want a 60" TV for the theater

feel
while watching DVDs and would gladly buy a non-HDTV if one was

available in
60". I find it amazing that these things cost so much and yet so

little
programming is available (at least programming not on the crappy

cable
channels). HD was and is a suckers bet. They have everyone

convinced it is
so much better yet very little makes good use of it and most HD

programming
is 720 besides. I guess the electronics companies, the federal

government in
their rush to rake the bucks selling the analog spectrum and the

cable and
satellite companies looking to gouge customers more found a great

suckers
bet.

=(8)


No programming? Where do you live? ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, PBS run lots of
HD content in prime time. I don't have enough time to watch it all.
ABC and Fox are 720, the others are 1080i. BTW, I use OTA only for HD.

I think you're Bob Miller (or one of his clones)

GG


Sorry don't know bob millar. As for 1080i according to the stations
within 100 miles none of them are doing 1080i only 720. Still see no need
or desire for HD, just want an ultra large screen to watch my DVDs on.

=(8)


Really? What zip code are you in? Only Fox and ABC do 720p ota.

Chip

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mogator88[_3_] May 25th 07 06:26 PM

Another dumb question..
 
On May 25, 11:22 am, wrote:
"=\(8\)" wrote:
"G-squared" wrote in message
roups.com...
On May 24, 6:41 pm, "=\(8\)" wrote:
snip
But then you have another class of people like myself that could
careless
about cable or satellite channels and want a 60" TV for the theater
feel
while watching DVDs and would gladly buy a non-HDTV if one was
available in
60". I find it amazing that these things cost so much and yet so
little
programming is available (at least programming not on the crappy
cable
channels). HD was and is a suckers bet. They have everyone
convinced it is
so much better yet very little makes good use of it and most HD
programming
is 720 besides. I guess the electronics companies, the federal
government in
their rush to rake the bucks selling the analog spectrum and the
cable and
satellite companies looking to gouge customers more found a great
suckers
bet.


=(8)


No programming? Where do you live? ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, PBS run lots of
HD content in prime time. I don't have enough time to watch it all.
ABC and Fox are 720, the others are 1080i. BTW, I use OTA only for HD.


I think you're Bob Miller (or one of his clones)


GG


Sorry don't know bob millar. As for 1080i according to the stations
within 100 miles none of them are doing 1080i only 720. Still see no need
or desire for HD, just want an ultra large screen to watch my DVDs on.


=(8)


Really? What zip code are you in? Only Fox and ABC do 720p ota.

Chip

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PBS in Chicago is down to 720p


jolt May 25th 07 06:39 PM

Another dumb question..
 

"=(8)" wrote in message
...
"luckyvic" wrote in message
...
I did some research and found some interesting and depressing info.

Cable programs are delivered two different ways.

1 With no cable box,just the cable from the wall connected to the tv.You
are getting analog signals from the cable company.These look ok on tv's
smaller than 19" but as the screen size increases the picture looks
grainy.

2. With a cable box the channels from 1-99 are analog.Then the rest are
digital which will look good on any size set. For HD you need a HD cable
box which still has 1-99 as analog and digital channels but adds the HD
channels. ( cable cards can replace a HD cable box if you HD set has a
cable card slot)



People buy HD sets for access to HD channels and put up with the bad
analog channels.If you don't plan on upgrading to HD with your cable
system then I would not spend the money on a HD set.

If you watch dvds then a HD set would give you that movie experience.

You must consider what you watch and ask "Is a hd set worth it to me?"



"luckyvic" wrote in message
...
I just purchased a Samsung T-T2793H HDTV and it's connected to the wall
outlet (Charter Cable Basic Extended). The picture is grainy/blured at
times. When I set the auto-programing I 3 choices STD, HRC & IRC for the
Air and Cable tunings, I used STD. Did I do the correct thing or not?
Thanks in advance for any info/help.




But then you have another class of people like myself that could careless
about cable or satellite channels and want a 60" TV for the theater feel
while watching DVDs and would gladly buy a non-HDTV if one was available
in 60". I find it amazing that these things cost so much and yet so little
programming is available (at least programming not on the crappy cable
channels). HD was and is a suckers bet. They have everyone convinced it is
so much better yet very little makes good use of it and most HD
programming is 720 besides. I guess the electronics companies, the federal
government in their rush to rake the bucks selling the analog spectrum and
the cable and satellite companies looking to gouge customers more found a
great suckers bet.

=(8)


HD at 720p isn't good enough for a guy who wants to watch DVD's on a 60"
set. Either you've never watched a DVD on a 60" set never seen 720p or both.



[email protected] May 25th 07 06:43 PM

Another dumb question..
 
mogator88 wrote:


PBS in Chicago is down to 720p


If so, then I stand corrected. It must be rare.
CBS, NBC, CW, MyNet all do 1080i.

Chip

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[email protected] May 25th 07 06:44 PM

Another dumb question..
 
wrote:
mogator88 wrote:


PBS in Chicago is down to 720p


If so, then I stand corrected. It must be rare.
CBS, NBC, CW, MyNet all do 1080i.

Chip


Correction, unless they are affiliated with an
ABC station like WCTX here in CT.

Chip

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