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BBC unveil free high definition channel
BBC unveil free high definition channel
Plans for the country's first free-to-air high definition TV channel has been unveiled by the BBC. The new channel will screen for nine hours every evening, broadcasting a mix of programmes including children's shows, documentaries and lifestyle programmes as well as big budget dramas, soaps, comedies and music shows. It will also feature major live sports fixtures, possibly including parts of the 2012 Olympics. The proposal promises that repeats will only make up a maximum of 30 per cent of programming initially and that the number of repeats screened will fall over time. It is estimated the new service will cost the BBC £21 million per year. If approved by the BBC Trust, it will start screening for four hours a day later this year and will be fully operational, providing a 3pm to midnight service, by 2009. The country already has two high definition packages on Sky and Telewest, but both attract subscription charges. High definition TV uses five times as many pixels as standard definition TV, producing a sharper, clearer image. It also features surround sound. The proposed BBC channel will be available on free digital TV as well as satellite and cable, with viewers only having to pay for a high-definition TV and set top box or tuner. BBC bosses yesterday handed details of the plans to the BBC Trust for approval. The trust, headed by its new chairman, Sir Michael Lyons, will have to conduct a "public value test" to determine if the channel is a good use of the licence fee and to test its impact on commercial competitors. A consultation among interested parties will close on June 19 and the trust will publish its initial findings in September. The plans will then undergo a public consultation, running until October, and the final decision on the viability of the channel is expected from the Trust around Nov 21. If everything runs to schedule the channel could be broadcasting by Christmas and will be able to screen the 2012 Olympics. A BBC spokesman said: "By the time the full nine-hour schedule is achieved, content would come from across the BBC's TV channels. Around half would come from BBC1, 30 per cent from BBC2 and the rest from BBC3, BBC4, CBBC and CBeebies." ITV, Channel 4 and Five recently took part in closed trials of HD and their plans are in development. |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from?
"Fun Time Frankie" wrote in message ... BBC unveil free high definition channel Plans for the country's first free-to-air high definition TV channel has been unveiled by the BBC. The new channel will screen for nine hours every evening, broadcasting a mix of programmes including children's shows, documentaries and lifestyle programmes as well as big budget dramas, soaps, comedies and music shows. It will also feature major live sports fixtures, possibly including parts of the 2012 Olympics. The proposal promises that repeats will only make up a maximum of 30 per cent of programming initially and that the number of repeats screened will fall over time. It is estimated the new service will cost the BBC £21 million per year. If approved by the BBC Trust, it will start screening for four hours a day later this year and will be fully operational, providing a 3pm to midnight service, by 2009. The country already has two high definition packages on Sky and Telewest, but both attract subscription charges. High definition TV uses five times as many pixels as standard definition TV, producing a sharper, clearer image. It also features surround sound. The proposed BBC channel will be available on free digital TV as well as satellite and cable, with viewers only having to pay for a high-definition TV and set top box or tuner. BBC bosses yesterday handed details of the plans to the BBC Trust for approval. The trust, headed by its new chairman, Sir Michael Lyons, will have to conduct a "public value test" to determine if the channel is a good use of the licence fee and to test its impact on commercial competitors. A consultation among interested parties will close on June 19 and the trust will publish its initial findings in September. The plans will then undergo a public consultation, running until October, and the final decision on the viability of the channel is expected from the Trust around Nov 21. If everything runs to schedule the channel could be broadcasting by Christmas and will be able to screen the 2012 Olympics. A BBC spokesman said: "By the time the full nine-hour schedule is achieved, content would come from across the BBC's TV channels. Around half would come from BBC1, 30 per cent from BBC2 and the rest from BBC3, BBC4, CBBC and CBeebies." ITV, Channel 4 and Five recently took part in closed trials of HD and their plans are in development. |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
Agamemnon wrote:
"Fun Time Frankie" wrote in message ... BBC unveil free high definition channel Plans for the country's first free-to-air high definition TV channel has been unveiled by the BBC. The new channel will screen for nine hours every evening, broadcasting a mix of programmes including children's shows, documentaries and lifestyle programmes as well as big budget dramas, soaps, comedies and music shows. It will also feature major live sports fixtures, possibly including parts of the 2012 Olympics. Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from? Would be nice to see a source for the info too. -- 60 day free DVD rental: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/dvd Mobile Offers: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/mob http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/currency |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
"Agamemnon" wrote in message . uk... Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from? Oh and another thing. Will it have a DOG on it, because if it is I isn't going to watch it and I isn't going to pay for equipment to enable me to watch it. I'll buy the DOG free DVD's of the shows and films I like, which will probably come out cheaper than a TV licence, and if that is the case the TV licence should be scrapped. No DOG's on the BBC! |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
In article , Agamemnon
writes Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from? "Fun Time Frankie" wrote in message .. . BBC unveil free high definition channel Plans for the country's first free-to-air high definition TV channel has been unveiled by the BBC. The new channel will screen for nine hours every evening, broadcasting a mix of programmes including children's shows, documentaries and lifestyle programmes as well as big budget dramas, soaps, comedies and music shows. It will also feature major live sports fixtures, possibly including parts of the 2012 Olympics. The proposal promises that repeats will only make up a maximum of 30 per cent of programming initially and that the number of repeats screened will fall over time. It is estimated the new service will cost the BBC £21 million per year. If approved by the BBC Trust, it will start screening for four hours a day later this year and will be fully operational, providing a 3pm to midnight service, by 2009. The country already has two high definition packages on Sky and Telewest, but both attract subscription charges. High definition TV uses five times as many pixels as standard definition TV, producing a sharper, clearer image. It also features surround sound. The proposed BBC channel will be available on free digital TV as well as satellite and cable, with viewers only having to pay for a high-definition TV and set top box or tuner. BBC bosses yesterday handed details of the plans to the BBC Trust for approval. The trust, headed by its new chairman, Sir Michael Lyons, will have to conduct a "public value test" to determine if the channel is a good use of the licence fee and to test its impact on commercial competitors. A consultation among interested parties will close on June 19 and the trust will publish its initial findings in September. The plans will then undergo a public consultation, running until October, and the final decision on the viability of the channel is expected from the Trust around Nov 21. If everything runs to schedule the channel could be broadcasting by Christmas and will be able to screen the 2012 Olympics. A BBC spokesman said: "By the time the full nine-hour schedule is achieved, content would come from across the BBC's TV channels. Around half would come from BBC1, 30 per cent from BBC2 and the rest from BBC3, BBC4, CBBC and CBeebies." ITV, Channel 4 and Five recently took part in closed trials of HD and their plans are in development. Perhaps from the analogue switch off; you have heard about that, haven't you? -- Ian G8ILZ There are always two people in every pictu the photographer and the viewer. ~Ansel Adams |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
"Agamemnon" writes:
Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from? Maybe if they ditch all the +1 channels and radio (which is available on DAB) and re-jig the allocation of channels to MUXs, there will be room for an HD channel or two. |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
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"Fun Time Frankie" wrote in message ... BBC unveil free high definition channel Plans for the country's first free-to-air high definition TV channel has been unveiled by the BBC. Would be nice to see a source for the info too. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/news/p...1_05_2007.html would seem to be relevant, but that page doesn't "unveil plans". However, the OP may be referring to what this page calls "[The] BBC Executive's application for a high definition television channel" which was published 21 May - though I can't yet find it online. André Coutanche |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
André Coutanche wrote:
However, the OP may be referring to what this page calls "[The] BBC Executive's application for a high definition television channel" which was published 21 May - though I can't yet find it online. It's at http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets...escription.pdf - as was reported last night on the Topfield forums by Nigel Whitfield. André Coutanche |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
WOW!
That's a thought high definition DOG As most Plasma/lcd tv sets seem to be big, wonder if the DOGs will be even larger. -- Regards, David Please reply to News Group |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
Agamemnon wrote:
Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from? Surely this is just the formality of turning BBC HD from a trial into a proper TV channel? No extra bandwidth required. |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
Ben wrote:
Agamemnon wrote: Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from? Surely this is just the formality of turning BBC HD from a trial into a proper TV channel? No extra bandwidth required. Looks like I was wrong http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=579337 |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
"Fun Time Frankie" wrote in message
... BBC unveil free high definition channel Plans for the country's first free-to-air high definition TV channel has been unveiled by the BBC. The new channel will screen for nine hours every evening, broadcasting a mix of programmes including children's shows, documentaries and lifestyle programmes as well as big budget dramas, soaps, comedies and music shows. It will also feature major live sports fixtures, possibly including parts of the 2012 Olympics. The proposal promises that repeats will only make up a maximum of 30 per cent of programming initially and that the number of repeats screened will fall over time. It is estimated the new service will cost the BBC £21 million per year. If approved by the BBC Trust, it will start screening for four hours a day later this year and will be fully operational, providing a 3pm to midnight service, by 2009. The country already has two high definition packages on Sky and Telewest, but both attract subscription charges. High definition TV uses five times as many pixels as standard definition TV, producing a sharper, clearer image. It also features surround sound. The proposed BBC channel will be available on free digital TV as well as satellite and cable, with viewers only having to pay for a high-definition TV and set top box or tuner. BBC bosses yesterday handed details of the plans to the BBC Trust for approval. The trust, headed by its new chairman, Sir Michael Lyons, will have to conduct a "public value test" to determine if the channel is a good use of the licence fee and to test its impact on commercial competitors. A consultation among interested parties will close on June 19 and the trust will publish its initial findings in September. The plans will then undergo a public consultation, running until October, and the final decision on the viability of the channel is expected from the Trust around Nov 21. If everything runs to schedule the channel could be broadcasting by Christmas and will be able to screen the 2012 Olympics. A BBC spokesman said: "By the time the full nine-hour schedule is achieved, content would come from across the BBC's TV channels. Around half would come from BBC1, 30 per cent from BBC2 and the rest from BBC3, BBC4, CBBC and CBeebies." ITV, Channel 4 and Five recently took part in closed trials of HD and their plans are in development. Okay I'm acting dumb here, playing devil's advocate. What is the point of buying an existing STB or disc recorder with built-in DTV tuner when it will be unable to receive HD when it finally becomes available? It's a bit like buying a B&W receiver after colour was announced. (kim) |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
"Ben" wrote in message ... Ben wrote: Agamemnon wrote: Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from? Surely this is just the formality of turning BBC HD from a trial into a proper TV channel? No extra bandwidth required. Looks like I was wrong http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=579337 So they are planning to deny the vast majority of the public BBC4 through the night, and it will not be able to show live sports on Freeview. Why don't the just kick off Cbeebies and mege it with CBBC like CITV have done, and get rid of the useless interactive channels. In fact who needs BBC4 anyway. Merge it with BBC3 and there could be HD all day long. |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
"Prometheus" wrote in message ... In article , Agamemnon writes Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from? "Fun Time Frankie" wrote in message . .. BBC unveil free high definition channel Plans for the country's first free-to-air high definition TV channel has been unveiled by the BBC. The new channel will screen for nine hours every evening, broadcasting a mix of programmes including children's shows, documentaries and lifestyle programmes as well as big budget dramas, soaps, comedies and music shows. It will also feature major live sports fixtures, possibly including parts of the 2012 Olympics. The proposal promises that repeats will only make up a maximum of 30 per cent of programming initially and that the number of repeats screened will fall over time. It is estimated the new service will cost the BBC £21 million per year. If approved by the BBC Trust, it will start screening for four hours a day later this year and will be fully operational, providing a 3pm to midnight service, by 2009. The country already has two high definition packages on Sky and Telewest, but both attract subscription charges. High definition TV uses five times as many pixels as standard definition TV, producing a sharper, clearer image. It also features surround sound. The proposed BBC channel will be available on free digital TV as well as satellite and cable, with viewers only having to pay for a high-definition TV and set top box or tuner. BBC bosses yesterday handed details of the plans to the BBC Trust for approval. The trust, headed by its new chairman, Sir Michael Lyons, will have to conduct a "public value test" to determine if the channel is a good use of the licence fee and to test its impact on commercial competitors. A consultation among interested parties will close on June 19 and the trust will publish its initial findings in September. The plans will then undergo a public consultation, running until October, and the final decision on the viability of the channel is expected from the Trust around Nov 21. If everything runs to schedule the channel could be broadcasting by Christmas and will be able to screen the 2012 Olympics. A BBC spokesman said: "By the time the full nine-hour schedule is achieved, content would come from across the BBC's TV channels. Around half would come from BBC1, 30 per cent from BBC2 and the rest from BBC3, BBC4, CBBC and CBeebies." ITV, Channel 4 and Five recently took part in closed trials of HD and their plans are in development. Perhaps from the analogue switch off; you have heard about that, haven't you? 1) not by Christmas 2) only if they (the BBC) pay extra for it. tim |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
On Tue, 22 May 2007 19:42:08 +0100, "kim" wrote:
"Fun Time Frankie" wrote in message .. . BBC unveil free high definition channel Plans for the country's first free-to-air high definition TV channel has been unveiled by the BBC. The new channel will screen for nine hours every evening, broadcasting a mix of programmes including children's shows, documentaries and lifestyle programmes as well as big budget dramas, soaps, comedies and music shows. It will also feature major live sports fixtures, possibly including parts of the 2012 Olympics. The proposal promises that repeats will only make up a maximum of 30 per cent of programming initially and that the number of repeats screened will fall over time. It is estimated the new service will cost the BBC £21 million per year. If approved by the BBC Trust, it will start screening for four hours a day later this year and will be fully operational, providing a 3pm to midnight service, by 2009. The country already has two high definition packages on Sky and Telewest, but both attract subscription charges. High definition TV uses five times as many pixels as standard definition TV, producing a sharper, clearer image. It also features surround sound. The proposed BBC channel will be available on free digital TV as well as satellite and cable, with viewers only having to pay for a high-definition TV and set top box or tuner. BBC bosses yesterday handed details of the plans to the BBC Trust for approval. The trust, headed by its new chairman, Sir Michael Lyons, will have to conduct a "public value test" to determine if the channel is a good use of the licence fee and to test its impact on commercial competitors. A consultation among interested parties will close on June 19 and the trust will publish its initial findings in September. The plans will then undergo a public consultation, running until October, and the final decision on the viability of the channel is expected from the Trust around Nov 21. If everything runs to schedule the channel could be broadcasting by Christmas and will be able to screen the 2012 Olympics. A BBC spokesman said: "By the time the full nine-hour schedule is achieved, content would come from across the BBC's TV channels. Around half would come from BBC1, 30 per cent from BBC2 and the rest from BBC3, BBC4, CBBC and CBeebies." ITV, Channel 4 and Five recently took part in closed trials of HD and their plans are in development. Okay I'm acting dumb here, playing devil's advocate. What is the point of buying an existing STB or disc recorder with built-in DTV tuner when it will be unable to receive HD when it finally becomes available? It's a bit like buying a B&W receiver after colour was announced. (kim) Will the ordinary Freeview receivers be able to receive the HD service at normal definition? |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
Scott wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2007 19:42:08 +0100, "kim" wrote: "Fun Time Frankie" wrote in message ... BBC unveil free high definition channel Plans for the country's first free-to-air high definition TV channel has been unveiled by the BBC. ITV, Channel 4 and Five recently took part in closed trials of HD and their plans are in development. Okay I'm acting dumb here, playing devil's advocate. What is the point of buying an existing STB or disc recorder with built-in DTV tuner when it will be unable to receive HD when it finally becomes available? It's a bit like buying a B&W receiver after colour was announced. (kim) Will the ordinary Freeview receivers be able to receive the HD service at normal definition? No. |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
"Scott" wrote in message
... On Tue, 22 May 2007 19:42:08 +0100, "kim" wrote: "Fun Time Frankie" wrote in message . .. BBC unveil free high definition channel Plans for the country's first free-to-air high definition TV channel has been unveiled by the BBC. The new channel will screen for nine hours every evening, broadcasting a mix of programmes including children's shows, documentaries and lifestyle programmes as well as big budget dramas, soaps, comedies and music shows. It will also feature major live sports fixtures, possibly including parts of the 2012 Olympics. The proposal promises that repeats will only make up a maximum of 30 per cent of programming initially and that the number of repeats screened will fall over time. It is estimated the new service will cost the BBC £21 million per year. If approved by the BBC Trust, it will start screening for four hours a day later this year and will be fully operational, providing a 3pm to midnight service, by 2009. The country already has two high definition packages on Sky and Telewest, but both attract subscription charges. High definition TV uses five times as many pixels as standard definition TV, producing a sharper, clearer image. It also features surround sound. The proposed BBC channel will be available on free digital TV as well as satellite and cable, with viewers only having to pay for a high-definition TV and set top box or tuner. BBC bosses yesterday handed details of the plans to the BBC Trust for approval. The trust, headed by its new chairman, Sir Michael Lyons, will have to conduct a "public value test" to determine if the channel is a good use of the licence fee and to test its impact on commercial competitors. A consultation among interested parties will close on June 19 and the trust will publish its initial findings in September. The plans will then undergo a public consultation, running until October, and the final decision on the viability of the channel is expected from the Trust around Nov 21. If everything runs to schedule the channel could be broadcasting by Christmas and will be able to screen the 2012 Olympics. A BBC spokesman said: "By the time the full nine-hour schedule is achieved, content would come from across the BBC's TV channels. Around half would come from BBC1, 30 per cent from BBC2 and the rest from BBC3, BBC4, CBBC and CBeebies." ITV, Channel 4 and Five recently took part in closed trials of HD and their plans are in development. Okay I'm acting dumb here, playing devil's advocate. What is the point of buying an existing STB or disc recorder with built-in DTV tuner when it will be unable to receive HD when it finally becomes available? It's a bit like buying a B&W receiver after colour was announced. (kim) Will the ordinary Freeview receivers be able to receive the HD service at normal definition? From what I've read there won't be anything in HD that isn't already available already in SD. That's not the point. A friend just purchased a matching pair of Panasonic DVD recorders with built-in Freeview. He will not be able to use these to timeshift, record or otherwise view the new HD programmes. He will have to purchase yet another set top box or disc recorder instead. As he is on jobseeker's allowance it is money he can ill-afford to spend and at his age (60) it is unlikely he will ever be offered full time employment again. Also what about all those people who have put off buying a DTV receiver of any kind? They will now say there is no point as existing receivers are obsolete so they may as wait for HD to arrive. This will slow down the changeover from analogue to digital. It is even possible the switch-off dates will be put back even further than they are at present. (kim) |
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 19:45:20 +0100, "Agamemnon"
wrote: In fact who needs BBC4 anyway. I do, for 'The World', the most intelligent news programme currently available. -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather |
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"kim" wrote in message ... From what I've read there won't be anything in HD that isn't already available already in SD. That's not the point. A friend just purchased a matching pair of Panasonic DVD recorders with built-in Freeview. He will not be able to use these to timeshift, record or otherwise view the new HD programmes. He will have to purchase yet another set top box or disc recorder instead. As he is on jobseeker's allowance it is money he can ill-afford to spend and at his age (60) it is unlikely he will ever be offered full time employment again. but if the bbc didnt launch the channel, he still wouldnt be able to see bbc HD - so he wont be any worse off. -- Gareth. That fly... is your magic wand. http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/ |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
On Tue, 22 May 2007 20:36:06 +0100, "kim" wrote:
From what I've read there won't be anything in HD that isn't already available already in SD. That's not the point. A friend just purchased a matching pair of Panasonic DVD recorders with built-in Freeview. Rather poor choice IMO, but whatever turns him on. He will not be able to use these to timeshift, record or otherwise view the new HD programmes. He will have to purchase yet another set top box or disc recorder instead. As he is on jobseeker's allowance it is money he can ill-afford to spend and at his age (60) it is unlikely he will ever be offered full time employment again. Does he have a HD Ready TV? Also what about all those people who have put off buying a DTV receiver of any kind? They will now say there is no point as existing receivers are obsolete so they may as wait for HD to arrive. This will slow down the changeover from analogue to digital. It is even possible the switch-off dates will be put back even further than they are at present. It won't affect the transition to digital, it may just lead to a few better informed cost conscious people waiting a bit longer before buying a HD STB/PVR. -- Andrew, contact via http://interpleb.googlepages.com Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question. |
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"Andrew" wrote in message
... On Tue, 22 May 2007 20:36:06 +0100, "kim" wrote: From what I've read there won't be anything in HD that isn't already available already in SD. That's not the point. A friend just purchased a matching pair of Panasonic DVD recorders with built-in Freeview. Rather poor choice IMO, but whatever turns him on. He previously had a matching pair of Panasonics with analogue tuners and was happy with them except for the necessity of using a matching pair of external tuners. He will not be able to use these to timeshift, record or otherwise view the new HD programmes. He will have to purchase yet another set top box or disc recorder instead. As he is on jobseeker's allowance it is money he can ill-afford to spend and at his age (60) it is unlikely he will ever be offered full time employment again. Does he have a HD Ready TV? Not at present. He has a Sony IDTV which is getting a bit old and plans to replace it with an LCD in the not too distant future. He will probably now get an integrated HDTV receiver but will be unable to record or timeshift anything in HD. In the meantime my housing association landlord has yet another excuse for not upgrading the aerial distribution system. "There's no point in us spending money on digital when its due to be replaced by high definition anyway." and the television retail trade will be asking the government to extend the switch off deadline while they wait for stocks of the new HD receivers to become available. Mind you, if this is anything like Freesat, it will be three years before the BBC actually does anything about HD anyway. (kim) |
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 01:47:24 +0100, Fun Time Frankie
wrote: High definition TV uses five times as many pixels as standard definition TV In other (people's) words, an extra 25%... Charlie -- Remove NO-SPOO-PLEASE from my email address to reply Please send no unsolicited email or foodstuffs |
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In article ,
says... In article , Agamemnon writes Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from? Perhaps from the analogue switch off; you have heard about that, haven't you? I have, but why would Freeview get the extra bandwidth when the bonehead government would rather sell off the frequencies to mobile phone companies? Standard-definition used to look a damn sight better until they ****ed that up in 2000 by reducing the quality (as confirmed by the BBC). They did that so they can sell HD to a load more saps... before they reduce the quality of that and sell you something else in its place later on. -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 1132 DVDs, 347 games, 314 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news /* antibodies, steve hillage, burning crusade, sega psp, norah jones, kylie New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DVDfeverDom |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
In article ,
says... "Agamemnon" writes: Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from? Maybe if they ditch all the +1 channels and radio (which is available on DAB) and re-jig the allocation of channels to MUXs, there will be room for an HD channel or two. +1 channels are a waste of time when +1 day would be better since if you miss something you'd unlikely to remember (or be in) within the hour, but you'll remember later in the day. -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 1132 DVDs, 347 games, 314 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news /* antibodies, steve hillage, burning crusade, sega psp, norah jones, kylie New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DVDfeverDom |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
In article , says...
"Scott" wrote in message ... Will the ordinary Freeview receivers be able to receive the HD service at normal definition? From what I've read there won't be anything in HD that isn't already available already in SD. That's not the point. A friend just purchased a matching pair of Panasonic DVD recorders with built-in Freeview. He will not be able to use these to timeshift, record or otherwise view the new HD programmes. He will have to purchase yet another set top box or disc recorder instead. As he is on jobseeker's allowance it is money he can ill-afford to spend and at his age (60) it is unlikely he will ever be offered full time employment again. Why - is his local B&Q at full employment? -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 1132 DVDs, 347 games, 314 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news /* antibodies, steve hillage, burning crusade, sega psp, norah jones, kylie New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DVDfeverDom |
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Alan White wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2007 19:45:20 +0100, "Agamemnon" wrote: In fact who needs BBC4 anyway. I do, for 'The World', the most intelligent news programme currently available. Hear, hear! André Coutanche |
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"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
In article , says... "Agamemnon" writes: Yer right, and where is the extra bandwidth going to come from? Maybe if they ditch all the +1 channels and radio (which is available on DAB) No! No! How would I record radio programmes with my DVR? and re-jig the allocation of channels to MUXs, there will be room for an HD channel or two. +1 channels are a waste of time when +1 day would be better since if you miss something you'd unlikely to remember (or be in) within the hour, but you'll remember later in the day. Could be confusing when they broadcast news bulletins. -- Max Demian |
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"Max Demian" writes:
How would I record radio programmes with my DVR? You don't! why record radio on a Digital *Video* Recorder? You either use 'old fashioned' cassette tape (my DAB receiver has a cassette deck) or connect the output to a PC sound card and record as MP3, OGG, etc. |
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Graham Murray wrote:
"Max Demian" writes: How would I record radio programmes with my DVR? You don't! why record radio on a Digital *Video* Recorder? You either use 'old fashioned' cassette tape (my DAB receiver has a cassette deck) or connect the output to a PC sound card and record as MP3, OGG, etc. I'm with Max. It's much, *much* easier and more convenient to use the built-in timer features of a PVR to record radio programmes from 'Freeview'. If I want to keep the programme (or even just for convenience of listening just the once) I can transfer it from my PVR (in my case a Topfield with USB connection to the PC) and process it on the PC. André Coutanche |
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"André Coutanche" wrote in message
Graham Murray wrote: "Max Demian" writes: How would I record radio programmes with my DVR? You don't! why record radio on a Digital *Video* Recorder? You either use 'old fashioned' cassette tape (my DAB receiver has a cassette deck) or connect the output to a PC sound card and record as MP3, OGG, etc. I'm with Max. It's much, *much* easier and more convenient to use the built-in timer features of a PVR to record radio programmes from 'Freeview'. If I want to keep the programme (or even just for convenience of listening just the once) I can transfer it from my PVR (in my case a Topfield with USB connection to the PC) and process it on the PC. I can do that on my Humax PVR-9200T too. Or just play it back and copy it onto audio cassette. Or keep it on the Humax as an hour only uses 100 MB of the 160 GB disk. -- Max Demian |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
... In article , says... "Scott" wrote in message ... Will the ordinary Freeview receivers be able to receive the HD service at normal definition? From what I've read there won't be anything in HD that isn't already available already in SD. That's not the point. A friend just purchased a matching pair of Panasonic DVD recorders with built-in Freeview. He will not be able to use these to timeshift, record or otherwise view the new HD programmes. He will have to purchase yet another set top box or disc recorder instead. As he is on jobseeker's allowance it is money he can ill-afford to spend and at his age (60) it is unlikely he will ever be offered full time employment again. Why - is his local B&Q at full employment? There isn't one where he lives. He has a part time job as an office cleaner in London but it means a long commute three times a week. He is also in dispute with the cleaning agency which employs him as his pay cheque (actually a bank transfer) seldom arrives on time. They are trying to engineer a "constructive dismissal" so they can employ someone much cheaper from eastern europe. The office company and staff where he works are very happy with his work. (kim) |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
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says... "Dom Robinson" wrote in message +1 channels are a waste of time when +1 day would be better since if you miss something you'd unlikely to remember (or be in) within the hour, but you'll remember later in the day. Could be confusing when they broadcast news bulletins. I don't know of any +1 channels that have news bulletins. -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 1132 DVDs, 347 games, 314 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news /* antibodies, steve hillage, burning crusade, sega psp, norah jones, kylie New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DVDfeverDom |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
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says... "Dom Robinson" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Scott" wrote in message ... Will the ordinary Freeview receivers be able to receive the HD service at normal definition? From what I've read there won't be anything in HD that isn't already available already in SD. That's not the point. A friend just purchased a matching pair of Panasonic DVD recorders with built-in Freeview. He will not be able to use these to timeshift, record or otherwise view the new HD programmes. He will have to purchase yet another set top box or disc recorder instead. As he is on jobseeker's allowance it is money he can ill-afford to spend and at his age (60) it is unlikely he will ever be offered full time employment again. Why - is his local B&Q at full employment? There isn't one where he lives. He has a part time job as an office cleaner in London but it means a long commute three times a week. He is also in dispute with the cleaning agency which employs him as his pay cheque (actually a bank transfer) seldom arrives on time. They are trying to engineer a "constructive dismissal" so they can employ someone much cheaper from eastern europe. The office company and staff where he works are very happy with his work. Then he should tell them to **** off and get employment where the employers actually value his work otherwise he'll just continue to get more disheartened about the whole thing, which will do him no good at all. That said, the pub where I go for lunch sometimes is employing more waitresses from Eastern Europe and they're incredibly fit :) -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 1132 DVDs, 347 games, 314 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news /* antibodies, steve hillage, burning crusade, sega psp, norah jones, kylie New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DVDfeverDom |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
... In article , says... "Dom Robinson" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Scott" wrote in message ... Will the ordinary Freeview receivers be able to receive the HD service at normal definition? From what I've read there won't be anything in HD that isn't already available already in SD. That's not the point. A friend just purchased a matching pair of Panasonic DVD recorders with built-in Freeview. He will not be able to use these to timeshift, record or otherwise view the new HD programmes. He will have to purchase yet another set top box or disc recorder instead. As he is on jobseeker's allowance it is money he can ill-afford to spend and at his age (60) it is unlikely he will ever be offered full time employment again. Why - is his local B&Q at full employment? There isn't one where he lives. He has a part time job as an office cleaner in London but it means a long commute three times a week. He is also in dispute with the cleaning agency which employs him as his pay cheque (actually a bank transfer) seldom arrives on time. They are trying to engineer a "constructive dismissal" so they can employ someone much cheaper from eastern europe. The office company and staff where he works are very happy with his work. Then he should tell them to **** off and get employment where the employers actually value his work otherwise he'll just continue to get more disheartened about the whole thing, which will do him no good at all. Easier said than done. As soon as he mentions his age no employer wants to know. Also if he leaves his present employment voluntarily he will lose his jobseekers allowance and have nothing left to live on. There are currently one million people between the ages of 55 and 65 in the same position as he is. (kim) |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
.. A friend just purchased a matching pair of Panasonic DVD recorders with built-in Freeview. He will not be able to use these to timeshift, record or otherwise view the new HD programmes. He will have to purchase yet another set top box or disc recorder instead. As he is on jobseeker's allowance it is money he can ill-afford to spend and at his age (60) it is unlikely he will ever be offered full time employment again. Easier said than done. As soon as he mentions his age no employer wants to know. Also if he leaves his present employment voluntarily he will lose his jobseekers allowance and have nothing left to live on. There are currently one million people between the ages of 55 and 65 in the same position as he is. (kim) So the guy was on jobseekers allowance and spent who knows how much on a matching pair of DVD recorders and we are supposed to have sympathy for him? There are loads of us in similar position and we just get on with it and take whatever work we can get. He will be able to live without television in HD you know! Now go and campaign on behalf of someone really deserving...... |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
"Vic" wrote in message
... . A friend just purchased a matching pair of Panasonic DVD recorders with built-in Freeview. He will not be able to use these to timeshift, record or otherwise view the new HD programmes. He will have to purchase yet another set top box or disc recorder instead. As he is on jobseeker's allowance it is money he can ill-afford to spend and at his age (60) it is unlikely he will ever be offered full time employment again. Easier said than done. As soon as he mentions his age no employer wants to know. Also if he leaves his present employment voluntarily he will lose his jobseekers allowance and have nothing left to live on. There are currently one million people between the ages of 55 and 65 in the same position as he is. (kim) So the guy was on jobseekers allowance and spent who knows how much on a matching pair of DVD recorders and we are supposed to have sympathy for him? There are loads of us in similar position and we just get on with it and take whatever work we can get. As does he despite being a highly skilled printer. He doesn't drink, smoke or shag women so TV is his only pleasure. (kim) |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
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@stirlingcity.coo.uk says... Dom Robinson wrote: That said, the pub where I go for lunch sometimes is employing more waitresses from Eastern Europe and they're incredibly fit :) They'd have to be, to lift the number of pies you eat :-) ? -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 1132 DVDs, 347 games, 314 CDs, 110 cinema films, 42 concerts, videos & news /* antibodies, steve hillage, burning crusade, sega psp, norah jones, kylie New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DVDfeverDom |
BBC unveil free high definition channel
On 22 May, 22:37, Charlie Pearce -SPOO-
PLEASE.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2007 01:47:24 +0100, Fun Time Frankie wrote: High definition TV uses five times as many pixels as standard definition TV In other (people's) words, an extra 25%... Surely 5x as many is an extra 400%? FWIW 1440x1080 / 720x576 = 3.75x Or 275% extra. I look forward to being corrected! Cheers, David. |
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