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HD Antenna and Home owners association issues
"varioust" wrote in message ups.com... Hi everyone, This is my first post to the group so I apologize if this is not the correct place to post. I have been enjoying the threads in this group and I decided I would post to see if anyone has an idea of what I should do in this situation. I apologize in advance if I should be posting to another group. I have been having issues with my HOA who disparately desires me to relocate my antenna from the highest point on my roof (where I receive line-of-sight with transmitters) to a more suitable location (attic, or where it is not visible from the street). Obviously, I know that "technically" they can't tell me to do this because of the FCC ruling in 1996...however, they used what I call the "good neighbor" approach on me. Listed below is a portion of the e-mail from my HOA president (and it is long): "" The Board of Directors is currently discussing the heart of the rule governing the prohibition of the placement of an antenna in or on a member's lot or dwelling; that being the true aesthetics involved in a member using this sort of equipment for their receptive needs. We are discussing and seeking consultation as to the Board's responsibility to oversee the requirements or restrictions of placement of such antennas to stay in keeping with the spirit of rule #18 in our covenants. But with all "restrictions" we must carefully weigh the individual member's rights to what is legally allowed against the other member's rights to a clear and unobstructed view. We will be discussing the manner in which a member would be conscientious of their neighbor's property as they would their own and ask each member that decides to follow this FCC ruling to place their antenna where it is not visibly seen by the surrounding homes or passersby. After saying this, in the spirit of neighborliness and citizenship, we are asking that you consider relocating your antenna. Several other members have installed similar antennas in their attic crawl spaces. If the reception there is unacceptable or your attic isn't large enough to accommodate then we are asking you, for the time being; to relocate the antenna to the north side of your home's ridgeline to at least reduce the amount of visibility. The reason we are requesting this from you is the very reason this was brought to the Board's attention. It is displeasing to your neighbors. Please consider this request until the Board can make a final decision as to how it will regulate the placement of the equipment that our covenants still conclude as being unsightly. "" My only response is: WOW! Can anyone give me a good idea of how to respond to this. Or recommendations on what I should do. Should I cave in to the "good guy" response, or should I fight this? I don't want to upset people, but I also think people should be aware that I am within my rights to have my antenna where it is...so it comes down to a matter of principle. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance! Thanks, Tyler Before I moved into a "closed" community I asked for a copy of the CCRs. I found nothing among them which was objectionable. Over the years here I have learned that here there are three sets of rules: Rumored rules - that which residents spread among themselves as being the rules; Cited Board rules - the way in which individual board members interpret the actual written rules; The written rules - those which would be contested or used as a defense in court. The first two often bear little or no resemblance to the latter. Yet, they do represent possible "community" reaction to their being "broken." In my community the written rule has been modified, from time to time, by board action, resident vote, or by state or federal law. One example of CCR amendment was that the (1960's) builder-installed, attic TV antennae were largely inadequate for good OTA reception. As these are multiple dwelling buildings, the roofs are not resident "exclusive" zones and even before the FCC got into the act, the CCRs were modified to permit roof antennae of a reasonable, and therefore almost uniform, size and height. The one-time total restriction against satellite dishes too was modified to permit the presently predominant small dish. Sadly, when cable arrived here and the vast majority of residents subscribed, few removed the roof antennae. An example of state law superceding CCRs is the few-year-old California law striking down "no pet" covenants in communities such as ours. A number of residents and a majority of the board members voted to construct "new rules," posing as covenants, and making it near impossible for our elderly residents to have dogs. Principal among this retaliation was "no walking of animals" on community grounds. Of course this never would have stood a court test and was stricken eventually, but it's illustrative of the knee-jerk reaction that some administrations have to a perceived loss of control - not unlike regionally and nationally elected administrations;-0) We here have no term limits for elected officials on the board - de facto, as it's rare that anyone else wants the job - and sadly that sometimes requires ad hoc committees which may end up in court to persuade the board toward a new way of thinking. Never-the-less, in a gated community of 7,000 dwellings, the need for rules and a board to handle them and a rather large cash flow, is obvious. Ideally residents would refer to rules and community actions by "we" or "our" rather than "they" or "their." Even in this somewhat Eden of CCR controlled communities, I hear many of my neighbors using "they." Not unlike citizens referring to our government, eh? As a member of a community I accept my share of the financial burden of any action against the community. However I believe I would feel somewhat uncharitable toward another member of the very same community who would cause me and our fellow residents to bear the financial burden of his no longer agreeing to the covenants he accepted when buying in, particularly so when the dispute could have been resolved beforehand by making known to the board his intended action and flexibilities. Winning is neither everything nor the only thing. Sample before-the-fact letter to the board: Dear sirs, since the FCC has ruled that covenants regarding antennae are generally unenforceable, we'd like to place an antenna for the reception of local and fringe TV transmission on our roof. As we may be the first in the community to do so, we've spoken with our immediate neighbors and finding among them no objection to our plan we'd like to seek your counsel as well. We're planning to acquire the materials and labor for the project in about two weeks. Your early reply will be appreciated. If you'd care to stop by or call, we're generally home between . . . |
HD Antenna and Home owners association issues
On 7 May 2007 05:32:53 -0700, Larry Bud
wrote: My only response is: WOW! Can anyone give me a good idea of how to respond to this. Or recommendations on what I should do. Should I cave in to the "good guy" response, or should I fight this? I don't want to upset people, but I also think people should be aware that I am within my rights to have my antenna where it is...so it comes down to a matter of principle. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance! Did you put the antenna up yourself or did you hire it done? If the latter, I would tell the board if they want it moved, they can pay for it. And then tell them that if the reception is not adequate, they will pay for it to be relocated back in the original position. HOAs need to be kept in check. You boad talking about property rights is laughable. HOAs go against the very spirit of property rights. "Clear and unobstructed view"... of what? Do you live near Mt. Rushmore and the antenna is "blocking" the nose of Teddy Rosevelt? Your antenna has as much right to be on top of your roof as does your HOA president's car being in his driveway. Perhaps his car is "obstructing" your view!! As you can tell, I HATE HOAs. They are the next step in the destruction of private property rights. I agree. Thumper Now, I wouldn't put the tone of the letter the way I wrote this message, but the message itself would be very similar. |
HD Antenna and Home owners association issues
On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:56:32 -0400, "L David Matheny"
wrote: "Larry Bud" wrote in message ps.com... My only response is: WOW! Can anyone give me a good idea of how to respond to this. Or recommendations on what I should do. Should I cave in to the "good guy" response, or should I fight this? I don't want to upset people, but I also think people should be aware that I am within my rights to have my antenna where it is...so it comes down to a matter of principle. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance! Did you put the antenna up yourself or did you hire it done? If the latter, I would tell the board if they want it moved, they can pay for it. And then tell them that if the reception is not adequate, they will pay for it to be relocated back in the original position. HOAs need to be kept in check. You boad talking about property rights is laughable. HOAs go against the very spirit of property rights. "Clear and unobstructed view"... of what? Do you live near Mt. Rushmore and the antenna is "blocking" the nose of Teddy Rosevelt? Your antenna has as much right to be on top of your roof as does your HOA president's car being in his driveway. Perhaps his car is "obstructing" your view!! As you can tell, I HATE HOAs. They are the next step in the destruction of private property rights. Now, I wouldn't put the tone of the letter the way I wrote this message, but the message itself would be very similar. I agree with almost everything Larry Bud says. But do try to remain civil. A friendly approach is generally better. If you can't move your antenna without ruining your reception, then politely stand by your rights under the FCC's rules. But if you can make it less conspicuous and still get good reception, then why not keep the neighbors happy? Why should he be the one that tries to be friendly by moving his antenna? Thumper |
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