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BBC Trust approves Freesat
In article , Bill Wright
writes "if" wrote in message ... "DAB is the Betamax of digital radio" [email protected] wrote: ... You've got a weird moniker there, surely DAB is the VHS of digital radio. The Betamax would be MP3 or Ogg Vorbis, the superior format which lost out. Yes Steve, why don't you change it to 'DAB is the greaseproof paper of sandwich wrappers' or 'DAB is the steam engine of mechanically propelled road vehicles' or DAB is the 78rpm shellac disk of audio recording' or 'DAB is the horrid rubber things they used for contraception before latex was invented in the 1920s that were like wanking into a sock' Blimey your not "that" old!.... -- or something snappy like that? Bill -- Tony Sayer |
BBC Trust approves Freesat
Stephen Henson wrote:
In article , d-e-c-o-d-e- says... There is the small matter of CO2 or other gasses produced in launching the satellite into orbit and the vast cost of satellites compared to terrestrial transmitters, but I won't mention that. Which would indeed be a consideration if new satellites would be needed but given that the capacity is already there... Yes, although the point I was trying to make in my original post, is that any considerations about 'green' issues with relation to this topic, can be largely discounted for the delivery side. The vast majority of the energy consumption and C02 generation is at the receiving end, in the home. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
BBC Trust approves Freesat
DAB is the Betamax of digital radio wrote:
DAB is the Betamax of digital radio wrote: It is due to launch by the time the Borders region switches off its analogue signal in 2008-2009 and will operate on a not-for-profit basis. I think it's a disgrace that they've been allowed to wait until just before digital switchover before they're launching Freesat, because Freesat was first touted about 3 or maybe even 4 years ago, and they've done bugger all, basically for the reason that Greg Dyke admitted to after he'd left the BBC which is that Freeview was launched in order to "flood the UK market with dumb set-top boxes" (I think those were his words) so they didn't have card slots so they wouldn't accept subscription so that the BBC could get another decade's worth of secured funding. And them launching Freesat at the last possible moment before switchover shows that they really want as many people to get Freeview as possible, even though Freeview is heavily bandwidth constrained, so providing HDTV is going to be a squeeze even after analogue TV has been switched off and the Freeview multiplex capacities will increase, whereas providing it on satellite is a piece of **** due to the enormous bandwidth at their disposal - and I read Ashley Highfield, the BBC's Director of Future Media & Technology (officially the most ridiculous departmental name in the history of departmental names) say that it costs £7m to broadcast a TV channel on Freeview and £700,000 on satellite (and £70,000 using Internet multicasting), so basically they could easily launch their TV channels in HD on satellite, but of course Sky is the big enemy, so they want to provide as little incentive as possible for people to get satellite - without making it obvious to everybody that they're trying to avoid satellite, because then they'd come under fire. Typical self-serving BBC... The trust admitted it was "unfortunate" it has taken so long for Freesat to be approved, No **** Sherlock! saying the BBC had originally planned to launch the service before digital switchover begins in the Cumbrian town of Whitehaven this autumn. Freesat was first proposed in 2003 and then outlined formally by the BBC and ITV in September 2005, when it was envisaged it would launch in the first half of 2006. Yeah, and WTF happened to it then?? Freeview sales took off, that's what bloody happened, and screw what the public wants. I'm guessing these things take time. Not sure why there was such a delay but you can bet that it involved "commercial" rivals lodging complaints about how they would be ruined by this Freesat thingy. Basically, if it had been the other way round and launching Freesat would have benefited the BBC and harmed Sky (hypothetically speaking, obviously), if it was proposed in 2003 they'd have got the bugger up and running by 2004. And of course you have the proof to back up your statement don't you? Thought not! -- Carl Waring DigiGuide: http://getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r=1495 DGLite: http://getdigiguide.com/?p=4&r=1495 - FREE!!! http://www.snap-seo.co.uk/web-hostin...g-packages.php Packages ranging from FREE to UNLIMITED! |
BBC Trust approves Freesat
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 09:37:41 +0100, tony sayer
wrote: Would the Proms sound any better in High Definition? Rod. And what is there worth seeing this season other than Götterdämmerung ?. Prolly describes digital broadcasting in the UK too well!...... If only it meant "Twilight of the DOGs". Rod. |
BBC Trust approves Freesat
"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
... In article , says... Max wrote in : Shame, by then they'll have nothing on worth showing in HD. Well unless you like on-screen logos, scrolly text, jaunty camera angles and "edgy" production values. But you'll need a High Definition set during the 2012 Olympics so that you can see the exertion on the faces of the winners in stunning detail and still have enough definition in the picture to see the British athletes waaaaaaay back in the distance as well as being able to make out the obscene hand gestures from the home crowd. And everyone will need to see the disappointment at 4-5 times higher quality images for close-ups in the British team as they lose at every event, plus the look of joy in the faces of Seb Coe and Kelly Holmes as they turn up long past their prime for no apparent reason. That's because the Olympic committee insists on including events the British are not especially good at. Now if they were to include sports such as binge-drinking, text messaging, scratchcard revealing and sucking up to Rupert Murdoch, I'm sure the British would win every gold medal going :o) (kim) |
BBC Trust approves Freesat
"Roger R" wrote in message
... "DAB is the Betamax of digital radio" [email protected] wrote in message ... http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...067033,00.html BBC Trust approves Freesat BBC channels are already FTA available on satellite, so I'm not quite sure what extra the BBC free sat system is going to provide, and why its taking three years to set up. Clearly I have fallen asleep at the back. An EPG (and Interactive facilities) using a non proprietary technology. That will make (non Sky) satellite PVRs a practical possibilty for UK channel reception. -- Michael Chare |
BBC Trust approves Freesat
"Marky P" wrote in message ... On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:08:47 +0100, "Paul D.Smith" wrote: ...snip... DAB is the 78rpm shellac disk of audio recording'... Interesting that you single out shellac. As a child I was most surprised to discover that my parents owned a 78rpm vinyl record - just the one! Lonnie Donegan if memory serves. Paul DS. I collect 78's and have quite a few vinyl ones that were produced in the late 50's. Mainly on Pye or Mercury records. Marky P. I stand corrected, I had no idea they existed. I do possess a single-sided 10 inch 78 recording of Caruso singing La Donna e Mobile. The first 7in 45rpm vinyl that was in my family's possession was in the mid 1950s and was by the Vienna Boys' Choir. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
BBC Trust approves Freesat
"Marky P" wrote in message
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:08:47 +0100, "Paul D.Smith" wrote: ...snip... DAB is the 78rpm shellac disk of audio recording'... Interesting that you single out shellac. As a child I was most surprised to discover that my parents owned a 78rpm vinyl record - just the one! Lonnie Donegan if memory serves. Paul DS. I collect 78's and have quite a few vinyl ones that were produced in the late 50's. Mainly on Pye or Mercury records. But can they be played on an acoustic gramophone? I thought the idea of the shellac was that it would stand the wear and tear of the acoustic needle. -- Max Demian |
BBC Trust approves Freesat
Max Demian wrote:
|| "Marky P" wrote in message || ||| On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:08:47 +0100, "Paul D.Smith" ||| wrote: ||| |||| ...snip... |||| DAB is the 78rpm shellac disk of audio recording'... |||| |||| Interesting that you single out shellac. As a child I was most |||| surprised to discover that my parents owned a 78rpm vinyl record - |||| just the one! Lonnie Donegan if memory serves. |||| |||| Paul DS. |||| ||| I collect 78's and have quite a few vinyl ones that were produced in ||| the late 50's. Mainly on Pye or Mercury records. || || But can they be played on an acoustic gramophone? || || I thought the idea of the shellac was that it would stand the wear || and tear of the acoustic needle. || I recall owning Elvis's 'Heartbreak Hotel' on an HMV 78, which used to be hammered regularly on a wind-up gramophone. || -- || Max Demian |
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