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Marky P April 27th 07 11:05 PM

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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:08:47 +0100, "Paul D.Smith"
wrote:

...snip...
DAB is the 78rpm shellac disk of audio recording'...

Interesting that you single out shellac. As a child I was most surprised to
discover that my parents owned a 78rpm vinyl record - just the one! Lonnie
Donegan if memory serves.

Paul DS.

I collect 78's and have quite a few vinyl ones that were produced in
the late 50's. Mainly on Pye or Mercury records.

Marky P.


Marky P April 27th 07 11:10 PM

BBC Trust approves Freesat
 
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:14:17 +0100, "Graham" wrote:


"Paul D.Smith" wrote in message
. ..
...snip...
DAB is the 78rpm shellac disk of audio recording'...

Interesting that you single out shellac. As a child I was most surprised
to discover that my parents owned a 78rpm vinyl record - just the one!
Lonnie Donegan if memory serves.

Paul DS.


It wasn't vinyl Paul


Some were, in fact vinyl. I have a copy of 'My Old Man's A Dustman'
by Lonnie Donegan on 78rpm pressed on vinyl. Very rare 78 from 1960,
which was the last year for 78 production in the uk. Carried on in S.
Africa up to around 1964 and in India to around '67/'68. These were
still shellac though.

Marky P.


Martin Underwood[_2_] April 27th 07 11:16 PM

BBC Trust approves Freesat
 
"Marky P" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:08:47 +0100, "Paul D.Smith"
wrote:

...snip...
DAB is the 78rpm shellac disk of audio recording'...

Interesting that you single out shellac. As a child I was most surprised
to
discover that my parents owned a 78rpm vinyl record - just the one!
Lonnie
Donegan if memory serves.

Paul DS.

I collect 78's and have quite a few vinyl ones that were produced in
the late 50's. Mainly on Pye or Mercury records.


I've got a very fragile shellac-on-aluminium 78 amateur recording of my
grandpa doing a segment about railways on Children's Hour, probably some
time in the late 40s, speaking in an accent that is completely alien to him:
it was at a time when people on the BBC only spoke in artificial RP accents
and his warm homely West Riding accent wasn't right. "And so the smoke goes
paff paff paff and soon it's going up the chimney like a bellet fram a gan."
;-)

There's a hell of a lot of noise and lots of scratches - one evening when I
had nothing better to do I worked on the WAV file that I'd grabbed from the
record, editing out the worst of the clicks and trying to filter out some of
the hiss that sounds as if the record is coated in sandpaper.



Mark Carver April 27th 07 11:22 PM

BBC Trust approves Freesat
 
Roger R wrote:

Is there any reason why a satellite box needs 10W more than a DTT one
other than bad design?


Presumably he is thinking of the extra power supplied to the LBN, though I
don't know if 10 watts is representative.


It was just a ball park guess, but D-Sat boxes do seem to consume more power
than modern DTT boxes, the LNB phantom power is certainly a factor, and also
(in the case of Sky boxes) the fact that in standby the box is still very busy
listening out for software and subscription updates.

[snip]

(Apologies for making a case for possibly putting you out of work, Mark)


Don't worry, it won't. I work in a different part of the broadcast industry :-)

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Mark
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Roderick Stewart April 28th 07 12:22 AM

BBC Trust approves Freesat
 
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:43:56 GMT, Moley
wrote:

Shame, by then they'll have nothing on worth showing in HD. Well
unless you like on-screen logos, scrolly text, jaunty camera angles
and "edgy" production values.


But you'll need a High Definition set during the 2012 Olympics so that you
can see the exertion on the faces of the winners in stunning detail and
still have enough definition in the picture to see the British athletes
waaaaaaay back in the distance as well as being able to make out the
obscene hand gestures from the home crowd.


Would the Proms sound any better in High Definition?

Rod.

Bill Wright April 28th 07 12:49 AM

BBC Trust approves Freesat
 

"Graham" wrote in message
...
DABi s the horrid rubber things they used for contraception before latex
was invented in the 1920s that were like wanking into a sock' -- or
something snappy like that?


Latex grows on trees dosn't it?

Don't you know nofink Bill?



It's one thing plucking the latex fruits off the tree; quite another to turn
them in johnies.

Bill




charles April 28th 07 12:56 AM

BBC Trust approves Freesat
 
In article ,
Stephen Henson wrote:

They must use giga Watts (anyone have precise figures?) on terrestrial
tranmissions. Satellite by comparison uses tiny amounts of power.


Satellites tend to use an awful lot of power to get into orbit ;-(

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11


Stephen Henson April 28th 07 01:48 AM

BBC Trust approves Freesat
 
In article , d-e-c-o-d-e-
says...

There is the small matter of CO2 or other gasses produced in launching the
satellite into orbit and the vast cost of satellites compared to terrestrial
transmitters, but I won't mention that.


Which would indeed be a consideration if new satellites would be needed
but given that the capacity is already there...

Steve.

Mark Carver April 28th 07 10:06 AM

BBC Trust approves Freesat
 
Roger R wrote:

Mr Murdoch has some sort of restrictive control over the satellite EPG that
apparently cannot be terminated and prevents the BBC from setting up a
satellite EPG of their own. I don't quite understand why the BBC has to
set up its own Freesat service and take three years doing so in order to
acheive it's own EPG.


The control is 'technical' rather than contractual.

The delay in part is due AIUI to the difficulty in having another SI stream
co-existing on transponders that also have Sky's proprietary one.

Presumably the Beeb have now found a way ?

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Mark
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tony sayer April 28th 07 10:37 AM

BBC Trust approves Freesat
 
In article , Roderick Stewart
writes
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:43:56 GMT, Moley
wrote:

Shame, by then they'll have nothing on worth showing in HD. Well
unless you like on-screen logos, scrolly text, jaunty camera angles
and "edgy" production values.


But you'll need a High Definition set during the 2012 Olympics so that you
can see the exertion on the faces of the winners in stunning detail and
still have enough definition in the picture to see the British athletes
waaaaaaay back in the distance as well as being able to make out the
obscene hand gestures from the home crowd.


Would the Proms sound any better in High Definition?

Rod.


And what is there worth seeing this season other than Götterdämmerung ?.

Prolly describes digital broadcasting in the UK too well!......
--
Tony Sayer



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