QAM Tuner Problems
 

Hello Everyone,
I am in desperate need of some advice. Since I received my new
Panasonic plasma TV (TH-50PX60U) in early January, I was enjoying
local HD channels via clear QAM. I am a basic cable subscriber (Wide
Open West / WOW) and was picking up a number of digital stations just
by scanning the digital spectrum with my internal tuner. Everything
was fine until 3/1/07, when suddenly all of my HD channels stopped
coming in. I rescanned the channels numerous times, and although I
was still receiving *some* digital stations, I no longer received the
local HD channels. I even did a hard reset with Panasonic on the
phone, but the rescan did not pick up the HD channels.

Here's the strange part. I picked up an external HD tuner at Circuit
City the other day for another LCD TV that does not have an internal
tuner. Just for fun, I hooked it up to my Panasonic and scanned all
the channels. Sure enough, it picked up the HD channels again.

Does anyone think that it could be a problem with the internal QAM
tuner? Again, I am picking up digital stations, just not the HD
ones. Also, I found some forums where a couple other WOW customers in
central Ohio experienced the same problem as me. One person suggested
that the channels were now being mapped to sub-channels of channels
zero, but that doesn't make any sense to me. The external HD tuner
scans the same range of channels (1-135), and it is picking up the HD
channels just fine.

Any help with this very frustrating issue would be very much
appreciated!

Ryan

QAM Tuner Problems
 

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Hello Everyone,
I am in desperate need of some advice. Since I received my new
Panasonic plasma TV (TH-50PX60U) in early January, I was enjoying
local HD channels via clear QAM. I am a basic cable subscriber (Wide
Open West / WOW) and was picking up a number of digital stations just
by scanning the digital spectrum with my internal tuner. Everything
was fine until 3/1/07, when suddenly all of my HD channels stopped
coming in. ...................

Curious, on the channels that come in, do the translations still work? I
had a similar thing happen with Comcast Cable early this year. A scan of the
QAM channels gets me about 30 channels, but they all translate to channel 0;
that is, I get 30 channel 0s. I have a Sharp LCD set, and everything worked
from September 05 until this year. There are 3 types of QAM cable. When
doing setup, two of these work the same, the third does not work at all.

What worked for me when I still had analog cable was to punch in RF channel
75.1, and step through all the channels up to 99.8. This picked up channels
that were not originally in memory. In fact, it got me some scrambled
channels ( SciFi and Fox News, for instance).

I have a DVR; so, not having the TV work through the QAM input is not a
big deal, but having it work would be nice. It does seem that the cable
companies are changing things again.

Tam

QAM Tuner Problems
 

"Ryan" wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am in desperate need of some advice. Since I received my new
Panasonic plasma TV (TH-50PX60U) in early January, I was enjoying
local HD channels via clear QAM. I am a basic cable subscriber (Wide
Open West / WOW) and was picking up a number of digital stations just
by scanning the digital spectrum with my internal tuner. Everything
was fine until 3/1/07, when suddenly all of my HD channels stopped
coming in. I rescanned the channels numerous times, and although I
was still receiving *some* digital stations, I no longer received the
local HD channels. I even did a hard reset with Panasonic on the
phone, but the rescan did not pick up the HD channels.

Here's the strange part. I picked up an external HD tuner at Circuit
City the other day for another LCD TV that does not have an internal
tuner. Just for fun, I hooked it up to my Panasonic and scanned all
the channels. Sure enough, it picked up the HD channels again.

Does anyone think that it could be a problem with the internal QAM
tuner? Again, I am picking up digital stations, just not the HD
ones. Also, I found some forums where a couple other WOW customers in
central Ohio experienced the same problem as me. One person suggested
that the channels were now being mapped to sub-channels of channels
zero, but that doesn't make any sense to me. The external HD tuner
scans the same range of channels (1-135), and it is picking up the HD
channels just fine.

Any help with this very frustrating issue would be very much
appreciated!

Ryan

Apparently your cable company is no longer allowing the local hd
channels to come through unscrambled. That is not the same as the
external hd tuner you bought. That gets the stations over the air,
by the atsc tuner, not the qam tuner that cable uses for local hd.

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On Apr 16, 10:17 am, wrote:
"Ryan" wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am in desperate need of some advice. Since I received my new
Panasonic plasma TV (TH-50PX60U) in early January, I was enjoying
local HD channels via clear QAM. I am a basic cable subscriber (Wide
Open West / WOW) and was picking up a number of digital stations just
by scanning the digital spectrum with my internal tuner. Everything
was fine until 3/1/07, when suddenly all of my HD channels stopped
coming in. I rescanned the channels numerous times, and although I
was still receiving *some* digital stations, I no longer received the
local HD channels. I even did a hard reset with Panasonic on the
phone, but the rescan did not pick up the HD channels.

Here's the strange part. I picked up an external HD tuner at Circuit
City the other day for another LCD TV that does not have an internal
tuner. Just for fun, I hooked it up to my Panasonic and scanned all
the channels. Sure enough, it picked up the HD channels again.

Does anyone think that it could be a problem with the internal QAM
tuner? Again, I am picking up digital stations, just not the HD
ones. Also, I found some forums where a couple other WOW customers in
central Ohio experienced the same problem as me. One person suggested
that the channels were now being mapped to sub-channels of channels
zero, but that doesn't make any sense to me. The external HD tuner
scans the same range of channels (1-135), and it is picking up the HD
channels just fine.

Any help with this very frustrating issue would be very much
appreciated!

Ryan

Apparently your cable company is no longer allowing the local hd
channels to come through unscrambled. That is not the same as the
external hd tuner you bought. That gets the stations over the air,
by the atsc tuner, not the qam tuner that cable uses for local hd.

Chip

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How would this be? The ATSC tuner would require an external antenna
to be connected, right? I don't have an antenna connected to the
external tuner, just the cable. Also, there are other WOW subscribers
who are receiving clear QAM HD channels just fine.

QAM Tuner Problems
 

"Ryan" wrote:
On Apr 16, 10:17 am, wrote:
"Ryan" wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am in desperate need of some advice. Since I received my new
Panasonic plasma TV (TH-50PX60U) in early January, I was enjoying
local HD channels via clear QAM. I am a basic cable subscriber (Wide
Open West / WOW) and was picking up a number of digital stations just
by scanning the digital spectrum with my internal tuner. Everything
was fine until 3/1/07, when suddenly all of my HD channels stopped
coming in. I rescanned the channels numerous times, and although I
was still receiving *some* digital stations, I no longer received the
local HD channels. I even did a hard reset with Panasonic on the
phone, but the rescan did not pick up the HD channels.

Here's the strange part. I picked up an external HD tuner at Circuit
City the other day for another LCD TV that does not have an internal
tuner. Just for fun, I hooked it up to my Panasonic and scanned all
the channels. Sure enough, it picked up the HD channels again.

Does anyone think that it could be a problem with the internal QAM
tuner? Again, I am picking up digital stations, just not the HD
ones. Also, I found some forums where a couple other WOW customers
in central Ohio experienced the same problem as me. One person
suggested that the channels were now being mapped to sub-channels of
channels zero, but that doesn't make any sense to me. The external
HD tuner scans the same range of channels (1-135), and it is picking
up the HD channels just fine.

Any help with this very frustrating issue would be very much
appreciated!

Ryan

Apparently your cable company is no longer allowing the local hd
channels to come through unscrambled. That is not the same as the
external hd tuner you bought. That gets the stations over the air,
by the atsc tuner, not the qam tuner that cable uses for local hd.

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How would this be? The ATSC tuner would require an external antenna
to be connected, right? I don't have an antenna connected to the
external tuner, just the cable. Also, there are other WOW subscribers
who are receiving clear QAM HD channels just fine.

What external tuner did you get, make and model?
If it has no qam tuner, and it likely doesn't,
the cable itself may be acting as an antenna,
thereby getting your stations that way.

As far as others getting the missing channels,
you said you have basic cable, not digital. That
means that IF you get any additional channels by
qam and not their box, they are not responsible
for the ones that you are not getting. Where I am,
I don't get one of the locals in hd via qam, even
though others do. Should I call the cable company
and complain, "hey, I'm not getting something that
I'm not paying for?" Of course not.

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"Ryan" wrote in message
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Hello Everyone,
I am in desperate need of some advice. Since I received my new
Panasonic plasma TV (TH-50PX60U) in early January, I was enjoying
local HD channels via clear QAM. I am a basic cable subscriber (Wide
Open West / WOW) and was picking up a number of digital stations just
by scanning the digital spectrum with my internal tuner. Everything
was fine until 3/1/07, when suddenly all of my HD channels stopped
coming in. I rescanned the channels numerous times, and although I
was still receiving *some* digital stations, I no longer received the
local HD channels. I even did a hard reset with Panasonic on the
phone, but the rescan did not pick up the HD channels.

Here's the strange part. I picked up an external HD tuner at Circuit
City the other day for another LCD TV that does not have an internal
tuner. Just for fun, I hooked it up to my Panasonic and scanned all
the channels. Sure enough, it picked up the HD channels again.

Does anyone think that it could be a problem with the internal QAM
tuner? Again, I am picking up digital stations, just not the HD
ones. Also, I found some forums where a couple other WOW customers in
central Ohio experienced the same problem as me. One person suggested
that the channels were now being mapped to sub-channels of channels
zero, but that doesn't make any sense to me. The external HD tuner
scans the same range of channels (1-135), and it is picking up the HD
channels just fine.

Any help with this very frustrating issue would be very much
appreciated!

Ryan


I have the same problem. I called Comcast and they said that they 'should
come in.' I was thinking that it was a scheme to get us to pay for these
channes since they know that al new HDTV's have built-in tuners.

QAM Tuner Problems
 

On Apr 16, 12:21 pm, wrote:
"Ryan" wrote:
On Apr 16, 10:17 am, wrote:
"Ryan" wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am in desperate need of some advice. Since I received my new
Panasonic plasma TV (TH-50PX60U) in early January, I was enjoying
local HD channels via clear QAM. I am a basic cable subscriber (Wide
Open West / WOW) and was picking up a number of digital stations just
by scanning the digital spectrum with my internal tuner. Everything
was fine until 3/1/07, when suddenly all of my HD channels stopped
coming in. I rescanned the channels numerous times, and although I
was still receiving *some* digital stations, I no longer received the
local HD channels. I even did a hard reset with Panasonic on the
phone, but the rescan did not pick up the HD channels.

Here's the strange part. I picked up an external HD tuner at Circuit
City the other day for another LCD TV that does not have an internal
tuner. Just for fun, I hooked it up to my Panasonic and scanned all
the channels. Sure enough, it picked up the HD channels again.

Does anyone think that it could be a problem with the internal QAM
tuner? Again, I am picking up digital stations, just not the HD
ones. Also, I found some forums where a couple other WOW customers
in central Ohio experienced the same problem as me. One person
suggested that the channels were now being mapped to sub-channels of
channels zero, but that doesn't make any sense to me. The external
HD tuner scans the same range of channels (1-135), and it is picking
up the HD channels just fine.

Any help with this very frustrating issue would be very much
appreciated!

Ryan

Apparently your cable company is no longer allowing the local hd
channels to come through unscrambled. That is not the same as the
external hd tuner you bought. That gets the stations over the air,
by the atsc tuner, not the qam tuner that cable uses for local hd.

Chip

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How would this be? The ATSC tuner would require an external antenna
to be connected, right? I don't have an antenna connected to the
external tuner, just the cable. Also, there are other WOW subscribers
who are receiving clear QAM HD channels just fine.

What external tuner did you get, make and model?
If it has no qam tuner, and it likely doesn't,
the cable itself may be acting as an antenna,
thereby getting your stations that way.

As far as others getting the missing channels,
you said you have basic cable, not digital. That
means that IF you get any additional channels by
qam and not their box, they are not responsible
for the ones that you are not getting. Where I am,
I don't get one of the locals in hd via qam, even
though others do. Should I call the cable company
and complain, "hey, I'm not getting something that
I'm not paying for?" Of course not.

Chip

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Chip,
The issue, as I understand it, is that the cable company is required
to offer the local broadcast stations and cannot scramble them by
law. Even so, my question is more geared to figuring out what went
wrong so that I can fix it. With an internal QAM tuner, you
absolutely can pick up unencrypted digital channels, even if you do
not subscribe to digital cable. There's nothing wrong with that and
the cable companies are well aware of this, although they don't
promote it.

I just want to figure out what the problem could possibly be. Heck,
as soon as I figure it out, I'll be ready to switch to an antenna
anyway. I don't think the HD channels you get through cable look as
good as OTA reception, so I'm probably going to make that switch. But
my technical, curious nature led me to post here to see if anyone knew
anything about this particular issue.

QAM Tuner Problems
 

"Ryan" wrote:
On Apr 16, 12:21 pm, wrote:
"Ryan" wrote:
On Apr 16, 10:17 am, wrote:
"Ryan" wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am in desperate need of some advice. Since I received my new
Panasonic plasma TV (TH-50PX60U) in early January, I was enjoying
local HD channels via clear QAM. I am a basic cable subscriber
(Wide Open West / WOW) and was picking up a number of digital
stations just by scanning the digital spectrum with my internal
tuner. Everything was fine until 3/1/07, when suddenly all of my
HD channels stopped coming in. I rescanned the channels numerous
times, and although I was still receiving *some* digital
stations, I no longer received the local HD channels. I even did
a hard reset with Panasonic on the phone, but the rescan did not
pick up the HD channels.

Here's the strange part. I picked up an external HD tuner at
Circuit City the other day for another LCD TV that does not have
an internal tuner. Just for fun, I hooked it up to my Panasonic
and scanned all the channels. Sure enough, it picked up the HD
channels again.

Does anyone think that it could be a problem with the internal
QAM tuner? Again, I am picking up digital stations, just not the
HD ones. Also, I found some forums where a couple other WOW
customers in central Ohio experienced the same problem as me.
One person suggested that the channels were now being mapped to
sub-channels of channels zero, but that doesn't make any sense to
me. The external HD tuner scans the same range of channels
(1-135), and it is picking up the HD channels just fine.

Any help with this very frustrating issue would be very much
appreciated!

Ryan

Apparently your cable company is no longer allowing the local hd
channels to come through unscrambled. That is not the same as the
external hd tuner you bought. That gets the stations over the air,
by the atsc tuner, not the qam tuner that cable uses for local hd.

Chip

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How would this be? The ATSC tuner would require an external antenna
to be connected, right? I don't have an antenna connected to the
external tuner, just the cable. Also, there are other WOW
subscribers who are receiving clear QAM HD channels just fine.

What external tuner did you get, make and model?
If it has no qam tuner, and it likely doesn't,
the cable itself may be acting as an antenna,
thereby getting your stations that way.

As far as others getting the missing channels,
you said you have basic cable, not digital. That
means that IF you get any additional channels by
qam and not their box, they are not responsible
for the ones that you are not getting. Where I am,
I don't get one of the locals in hd via qam, even
though others do. Should I call the cable company
and complain, "hey, I'm not getting something that
I'm not paying for?" Of course not.

Chip

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Chip,
The issue, as I understand it, is that the cable company is required
to offer the local broadcast stations and cannot scramble them by
law. Even so, my question is more geared to figuring out what went
wrong so that I can fix it. With an internal QAM tuner, you
absolutely can pick up unencrypted digital channels, even if you do
not subscribe to digital cable. There's nothing wrong with that and
the cable companies are well aware of this, although they don't
promote it.

I just want to figure out what the problem could possibly be. Heck,
as soon as I figure it out, I'll be ready to switch to an antenna
anyway. I don't think the HD channels you get through cable look as
good as OTA reception, so I'm probably going to make that switch. But
my technical, curious nature led me to post here to see if anyone knew
anything about this particular issue.


Can you give the model number of the hd tuner you bought?

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On Apr 16, 2:10 pm, wrote:
"Ryan" wrote:
On Apr 16, 12:21 pm, wrote:
"Ryan" wrote:
On Apr 16, 10:17 am, wrote:
"Ryan" wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am in desperate need of some advice. Since I received my new
Panasonic plasma TV (TH-50PX60U) in early January, I was enjoying
local HD channels via clear QAM. I am a basic cable subscriber
(Wide Open West / WOW) and was picking up a number of digital
stations just by scanning the digital spectrum with my internal
tuner. Everything was fine until 3/1/07, when suddenly all of my
HD channels stopped coming in. I rescanned the channels numerous
times, and although I was still receiving *some* digital
stations, I no longer received the local HD channels. I even did
a hard reset with Panasonic on the phone, but the rescan did not
pick up the HD channels.

Here's the strange part. I picked up an external HD tuner at
Circuit City the other day for another LCD TV that does not have
an internal tuner. Just for fun, I hooked it up to my Panasonic
and scanned all the channels. Sure enough, it picked up the HD
channels again.

Does anyone think that it could be a problem with the internal
QAM tuner? Again, I am picking up digital stations, just not the
HD ones. Also, I found some forums where a couple other WOW
customers in central Ohio experienced the same problem as me.
One person suggested that the channels were now being mapped to
sub-channels of channels zero, but that doesn't make any sense to
me. The external HD tuner scans the same range of channels
(1-135), and it is picking up the HD channels just fine.

Any help with this very frustrating issue would be very much
appreciated!

Ryan

Apparently your cable company is no longer allowing the local hd
channels to come through unscrambled. That is not the same as the
external hd tuner you bought. That gets the stations over the air,
by the atsc tuner, not the qam tuner that cable uses for local hd.

Chip

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How would this be? The ATSC tuner would require an external antenna
to be connected, right? I don't have an antenna connected to the
external tuner, just the cable. Also, there are other WOW
subscribers who are receiving clear QAM HD channels just fine.

What external tuner did you get, make and model?
If it has no qam tuner, and it likely doesn't,
the cable itself may be acting as an antenna,
thereby getting your stations that way.

As far as others getting the missing channels,
you said you have basic cable, not digital. That
means that IF you get any additional channels by
qam and not their box, they are not responsible
for the ones that you are not getting. Where I am,
I don't get one of the locals in hd via qam, even
though others do. Should I call the cable company
and complain, "hey, I'm not getting something that
I'm not paying for?" Of course not.

Chip

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Chip,
The issue, as I understand it, is that the cable company is required
to offer the local broadcast stations and cannot scramble them by
law. Even so, my question is more geared to figuring out what went
wrong so that I can fix it. With an internal QAM tuner, you
absolutely can pick up unencrypted digital channels, even if you do
not subscribe to digital cable. There's nothing wrong with that and
the cable companies are well aware of this, although they don't
promote it.

I just want to figure out what the problem could possibly be. Heck,
as soon as I figure it out, I'll be ready to switch to an antenna
anyway. I don't think the HD channels you get through cable look as
good as OTA reception, so I'm probably going to make that switch. But
my technical, curious nature led me to post here to see if anyone knew
anything about this particular issue.

Can you give the model number of the hd tuner you bought?

Chip

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Sure, it's a Samsung DTB-H260F:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsu...oductDetail.do

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Sure, it's a Samsung DTB-H260F:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsu...em/rpsm/oid/16
4855/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

It does have a qam tuner, so I'll bet your signals levels are
low causing the qam tuner in your television to miss some
channels even though the stb picks them up. You may want
to have the cable company check the lines for you.

Chip

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