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the dog from that film you saw wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...


I tend to believe in freedom of choice. In a village where there is
only one pub then it might be ok to make it non smoking. But in most
towns there are more pubs than needed - hence the numbers closing.
So I really can't see why it can't be left up to the owner. And
staff can choose to work in the type of pub that suits them - as
now. And the same with restaurants. No one *has* to eat in one.


OH MY GOD! I actually agree with everything the Ploughman has just said.


smokers should be grateful they are allowed to smoke at all


What an absolute cock.



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TOT Smoking Ban 2007
 

"DAB is the Betamax of digital radio" [email protected] wrote in message
...
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...


I tend to believe in freedom of choice. In a village where there is
only one pub then it might be ok to make it non smoking. But in most
towns there are more pubs than needed - hence the numbers closing.
So I really can't see why it can't be left up to the owner. And
staff can choose to work in the type of pub that suits them - as
now. And the same with restaurants. No one *has* to eat in one.


OH MY GOD! I actually agree with everything the Ploughman has just said.


smokers should be grateful they are allowed to smoke at all


What an absolute cock.



well you see, what you should have done there is provide your justification
for smoking being legal when comparable drugs are not - this is a discussion
group after all.
simply calling someone a rude name doesnt help your argument in any way.


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TOT Smoking Ban 2007
 

DAB is the Betamax of digital radio wrote:

Phil Cook wrote:

folk go out with their mates and if only one of them is a smoker he or
she will carry the way and so there will be lots of groups of non
smokers in the bar with a token smoker in each group fugging it up for
everybody else.

1 in every 4 adults smoke, and in my experience smokers usually hang around
with other smokers, which unfortunately makes a mockery of that little
concocted story, because if smokers typically hang around with other smokers
then statistically speaking there must be lots of groups of non-smokers also
going in.

You must live in a strange parallel universe. I regularly go drinking
with a few workmates and there are only two of our group of about ten
that smoke. We don't all go at the same time but if we do go out we
end up in the smoking bar if we have a smoker with us. Come the ban
they will just take a little longer breaks when visiting the
facilities and they will go via outside to get there.

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TOT Smoking Ban 2007
 

In article . com,
Mark Carver wrote:
Basingstoke is hardly a northern working class area where 50% of the
adult population smoke, is it?

No, you're right. I'm feeling better about my much maligned town
now :-)

I like Basingstoke. It has an excellent bypass.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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TOT Smoking Ban 2007
 

In article ,
Phil Cook wrote:
Round here most of the pubs have had non smoking bars for many years.
Which are far less busy than the smoking ones.

The fact that smoking bars tend to be more empty than the smoking ones
is probably down to factors like the best bar is the smoking one

Not so in my local. It's arguably the nicest bar of the three. (Or rather
was when it was still a pub before the recent re-furbishment)

and folk go out with their mates and if only one of them is a smoker he
or she will carry the way and so there will be lots of groups of non
smokers in the bar with a token smoker in each group fugging it up for
everybody else.

Seems then that the non smokers aren't that bothered. Or that smokers are
more entertaining than others? ;-)

I tend to believe in freedom of choice. In a village where there is only
one pub then it might be ok to make it non smoking. But in most towns
there are more pubs than needed - hence the numbers closing. So I really
can't see why it can't be left up to the owner. And staff can choose to
work in the type of pub that suits them - as now.

Except that they will all go to the lowest common denominator. A
smoking pub dare not go non smoking whilst others remain smoking.

But surely - if has been stated - the vast majority are vehemently
against smoking a choice of a totally smoke free pub would make sound
business sense?

And the same with restaurants. No one *has* to eat in one.

You don't *have* to drink in a bar but where elee is a man to go with
his mates and escape the missus?

You've got a local that still bans women? Thought that was made illegal
too...
--

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Dave Plowman London SW
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TOT Smoking Ban 2007
 

the dog from that film you saw wrote:
"DAB is the Betamax of digital radio" [email protected] wrote in message
...
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...


I tend to believe in freedom of choice. In a village where there is
only one pub then it might be ok to make it non smoking. But in
most towns there are more pubs than needed - hence the numbers
closing. So I really can't see why it can't be left up to the
owner. And staff can choose to work in the type of pub that suits
them - as now. And the same with restaurants. No one *has* to eat
in one.


OH MY GOD! I actually agree with everything the Ploughman has just
said.
smokers should be grateful they are allowed to smoke at all


What an absolute cock.



well you see, what you should have done there is provide your
justification for smoking being legal when comparable drugs are not -
this is a discussion group after all.
simply calling someone a rude name doesnt help your argument in any
way.


There is no point in discussing anything with you considering the things
that you've come out with so far on this thread, such as the patently absurd
suggestion that smoking should actually be banned full-stop.

Furthermore, you don't seem to be able to use capital letters, you can't
punctuate, you can't spell properly, and you seem to be a general thicko as
well as obviously being so selfish that he actually wants other people to
suffer even though it wouldn't affect him.



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TOT Smoking Ban 2007
 

In article ,
charles wrote:
our amateur theatre has now been no smoking for 18 months. We can now
get volunteers to work behind the bar. We also get a better rate from
our insurance company.

Surely most theatres and cinemas have been non smoking for years?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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TOT Smoking Ban 2007
 

In article ,
DAB is the Betamax of digital radio [email protected] wrote:
And why everyone thinks HE is a ****.

What, everybody? Or are you talking about the usual suspects, such as
David Ploughman,

I do wish you'd learn to spell...

Jerry and a few people that have recently bought a DAB
radio and don't like to be told that their new radio is going to be
made obsolete? I think I can live with them thinking I'm a ****, thanks.

Every single new purchase you make will be obsolete one day.

What makes you a **** is your obsession over something that doesn't much
worry most. Even Mike Cory doesn't create quite such a stink about nothing.

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*I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant

Dave Plowman London SW
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TOT Smoking Ban 2007
 

Phil Cook wrote:
DAB is the Betamax of digital radio wrote:

Phil Cook wrote:

folk go out with their mates and if only one of them is a smoker he
or she will carry the way and so there will be lots of groups of non
smokers in the bar with a token smoker in each group fugging it up
for everybody else.

1 in every 4 adults smoke, and in my experience smokers usually hang
around with other smokers, which unfortunately makes a mockery of
that little concocted story, because if smokers typically hang
around with other smokers then statistically speaking there must be
lots of groups of non-smokers also going in.

You must live in a strange parallel universe.


No, south Manchester.


I regularly go drinking
with a few workmates and there are only two of our group of about ten
that smoke. We don't all go at the same time but if we do go out we
end up in the smoking bar if we have a smoker with us.


People don't pick who they work with, but they do pick their friends, and
IMO smokers tend to be friends with other smokers - it goes back to school
days where smokers would tend to hang around with other smokers. It just
seems to be this way.

So with 1 in 4 people smoking but smokers tending to hang around with other
smokers, there'll be lots of groups of non-smokers who still go to the
smoking bars that were mentioned as being busier.


Come the ban
they will just take a little longer breaks when visiting the
facilities and they will go via outside to get there.


I'm talking about the smoking ban in pubs, and we'll now have to interrupt
what we're doing (and no doubt smokers will be the people that always have
to stand up in busy pubs because they'll lose their seats to the
non-smokers) to go outside for a facking cig. It's ridiculous.


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TOT Smoking Ban 2007
 

"DAB is the Betamax of digital radio" [email protected] wrote in message
...


well you see, what you should have done there is provide your
justification for smoking being legal when comparable drugs are not -
this is a discussion group after all.
simply calling someone a rude name doesnt help your argument in any
way.


There is no point in discussing anything with you considering the things
that you've come out with so far on this thread, such as the patently
absurd suggestion that smoking should actually be banned full-stop.

Furthermore, you don't seem to be able to use capital letters, you can't
punctuate, you can't spell properly, and you seem to be a general thicko
as well



more names - nice.
I can't possibly argue against your might.



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That fly... is your magic wand.
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