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Richard C. March 19th 07 06:37 PM

Letterbox is annoying, even on new 61" TV!
 
"Guest" wrote in message
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I guess things will get easier when everything is HD.

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Such a thing will never happen.
All US TV will soon be Digital, but much of that will still be SD.
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Now you know why the Japanese market their products differently for the
USA then they do for Asia and Europe...



Richard C. March 19th 07 06:38 PM

Letterbox is annoying, even on new 61" TV!
 
"James Egan" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:57:59 -0500, Peter H. Coffin wrote:

Your screen is 1.7:1. The movie's 2.35:1 How is it supposed to use the
whole screen?



My point is the directors think that this format is wonderful,
and the rest of us that watches it do not. My point was it
is annoying to buy a 61" TV, then loose have the picture.
If you don't agree with that, what can I say?

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Most movie lovers DO think 2.35:1 is wonderful.
Just like they think 1.33:1, 1.66:1 and 2.40:1 are wonderful.
Are all your books the same size?


Richard C. March 19th 07 06:39 PM

Letterbox is annoying, even on new 61" TV!
 
"James Egan" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:33:55 -0400, Matthew L. Martin wrote:

James Egan wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:57:59 -0500, Peter H. Coffin wrote:

Your screen is 1.7:1. The movie's 2.35:1 How is it supposed to use the
whole screen?


My point is the directors think that this format is wonderful,
and the rest of us that watches it do not.


Please speak for yourself. Directors choose aspect ratios for reasons
having to do with the story being told.

My point was it
is annoying to buy a 61" TV, then loose have the picture.


That would be "lose".

It's too bad you are annoyed. If you could be bothered to learn *why* a
director chooses an aspect ratio, you might learn to appreciate
wide-screen movies.

If you don't agree with that, what can I say?


I don't agree with that. You could say that you are willing to learn why
others are more than satisfied by being able to see movies in the
director's chosen aspect ratio.

Too bad David Lean can't explain it to you.

http://www.davidlean.com

He chose to use virtually every aspect ratio available over the course
of his career. Each choice was deliberate and related to the way he
wanted to tell the story.

Matthew



I know that directors select goofy aspect ratios for their own
egocentric artistic purposes. I have never met ANYONE in my
entire life that was not annoyed by them, except for several
in this newsgroup.


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Richard C. March 19th 07 06:42 PM

Letterbox is annoying, even on new 61" TV!
 
"Tom Stiller" wrote in message
...
In article [email protected],
"WGD" wrote:

The writer is correct noting lose of quality in the zoom mode
particularly
when viewing large screens. This may be less of a problem as we
eventually
move over to BluRay and HD-DVD. For my office 32" LCD, the 2x zoom mode
is
fine.


What is it about the words "lose", "loose", and "loss" that makes it so
difficult for people to get it right?

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Same problem they have with their, there, they're and your, you're and to,
too, two.
not to mention site, sight, right, write, etc, etc. (and then there are the
ones who think
it is eccetera)


Richard C. March 19th 07 06:43 PM

Letterbox is annoying, even on new 61" TV!
 
"David Zinck" wrote in message
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Peter H. Coffin wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:03:00 -0400, Tom Stiller wrote:
In article [email protected],
"WGD" wrote:

The writer is correct noting lose of quality in the zoom mode
particularly when viewing large screens. This may be less of a
problem as we eventually move over to BluRay and HD-DVD. For my
office 32" LCD, the 2x zoom mode is fine.

What is it about the words "lose", "loose", and "loss" that makes
it so difficult for people to get it right?

Their morons. (;


Your right.

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my right what?


Michael Fierro[_2_] March 19th 07 07:21 PM

Letterbox is annoying, even on new 61" TV!
 
On 2007-03-19, Wes Newell rambled on thusly:

What is it about the words "lose", "loose", and "loss" that makes
it so difficult for people to get it right?

Their morons. (;


Your right.


If you're going to nitpick others about spelling, it helps to use proper
english yourself. You're wrong with "Your right" unless you're marching.:-)


Sheesh, Wes, you need to turn your humor radar way, way, way up!

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Ernest Cassirer March 19th 07 10:50 PM

Letterbox is annoying, even on new 61" TV!
 
I shudder at "shud".

"WGD" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
YOU are right!! I have a similar problem with folks who do not know how
to pluralize words. Even TV news and the Chyron operator's (oops shud be
operators).

WayneD


"Tom Stiller" wrote in message
...
In article [email protected],
"WGD" wrote:

The writer is correct noting lose of quality in the zoom mode
particularly
when viewing large screens. This may be less of a problem as we
eventually
move over to BluRay and HD-DVD. For my office 32" LCD, the 2x zoom mode
is
fine.


What is it about the words "lose", "loose", and "loss" that makes it so
difficult for people to get it right?

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Tom Stiller

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7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF






Ric Seyler March 19th 07 11:15 PM

Letterbox is annoying, even on new 61" TV!
 


Matthew L. Martin wrote:

James Egan wrote:

On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:57:59 -0500, Peter H. Coffin wrote:

Your screen is 1.7:1. The movie's 2.35:1 How is it supposed to use the
whole screen?




My point is the directors think that this format is wonderful,
and the rest of us that watches it do not.


Not if you have CineScope...



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Ric Seyler March 19th 07 11:21 PM

Letterbox is annoying, even on new 61" TV!
 


Alan F wrote:

James Egan wrote:

I just got my new Samsung 61" DLP TV. I won't be getting my
DirecTV hardware upgraded for another two weeks, so I connected
the existing standard def equipment, and also a new XBox 360
HD-DVD player. I played the HD movie "Troy" a bit, just to
see the picture. I was amazed that with the letterbox, only
about 1/2 the screen was used for the actual picture. I was
able to "zoom" the picture some, but you loose quality then.
I thought that with the rectangular shaped TV's that the picture
would use the entire screen?
Also, I tried playing a James Taylor HD-DVD, and it hung
repeatedly. I had read about this problem in the reviews
of this movie in a review, but chalked it up to an
inexperienced user.


Overall though, I'm very happy and amazed by the picture!



Was the picture height about 75% of the screen height? If it was half,
then there is something wrong. The movie was a cinemascope movie meaning
it has an Original Aspect Ratio (OAR) of 2.35 to 1 (or 2.40 to 1). For a
16:9 (1.78:1) screen, the height of the picture should be 1.77/2.35=
0.75 of the screen.


Damn good catch Alan!
That just might be his problem and doesn't realize it.
I'd agree with him being very unhappy with his new display
if he it outputting 4.3 and then CineScoped on top of that.

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Ric Seyler March 19th 07 11:24 PM

Letterbox is annoying, even on new 61" TV!
 
Yepper, Runco's CineScope is Nice!!
Toooo rich for my blood though! LOL

WGD wrote:

BTW - this is one reason why Runco's 2.35:1 projector is so popular with the
deep-pocket buyers!




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