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DAB sounds worse than FM March 12th 07 03:20 PM

How many DTT muxes after switchover?
 
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be 8 DTT
muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be using 64-QAM.

Is this still the situation?


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David March 12th 07 03:35 PM

How many DTT muxes after switchover?
 

"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be 8 DTT
muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be using
64-QAM.

Is this still the situation?


--

Thought it was to be variable and from 3 dependant on your transmitter.
Eg a present 4 channel relay transmitter site, BBC1, 2, ITV1 and CH4, would
have 3 mux's when converted to digital after anologue switch off.
So digital is not all good news for some.
Regards
David



DAB sounds worse than FM March 12th 07 03:41 PM

How many DTT muxes after switchover?
 
David wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be
8 DTT muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be
using 64-QAM.

Is this still the situation?


--

Thought it was to be variable and from 3 dependant on your
transmitter. Eg a present 4 channel relay transmitter site, BBC1, 2, ITV1
and CH4,
would have 3 mux's when converted to digital after anologue switch
off. So digital is not all good news for some.



True.


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Mark Carver March 12th 07 03:46 PM

How many DTT muxes after switchover?
 
On Mar 12, 2:20 pm, "DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be 8 DTT
muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be using 64-QAM.

Is this still the situation?


Yes. six for definite, another two possibly, depending on what Ofcom/
DCMS decide about the 'digital dividend' sell off of UHF Chs 31-40 and
63-68.

The six muxes will only be available from the present 80 stations that
already carry DTT, plus Fremont Point on Jersey. The remaining 1074
stations will only carry 3 muxes.

Predicted population coverage will be 90% for the six muxes, 99%ish
for three.

Present DTT coverage is about 73% (for Mux 1)


DAB sounds worse than FM March 12th 07 03:49 PM

How many DTT muxes after switchover?
 
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be 8
DTT muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be
using 64-QAM.
Is this still the situation?



There's some information about this on pages 12-19 on he

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/speech.../rrcslides.pdf

On page 12 it says

3 national DVB-T muxes for PSB
3 national DVB-T muxes for COM
2 national DVB-T muxes for Digital Dividend (without pre-judging what their
eventual use might be)

So from reading this and some other documents on the Ofcom website it looks
to like there will be 6 DVB-T muxes and the "2 national DVB-T muxes for
Digital Dividend" are the channels that will be freed-up and auctioned off.
So there will only be 8 DTT muxes *if* the broadcasters win the auctions.

Is this how others understand the current situation?


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DAB sounds worse than FM March 12th 07 03:50 PM

How many DTT muxes after switchover?
 
Mark Carver wrote:
On Mar 12, 2:20 pm, "DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote:
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be
8 DTT muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be
using 64-QAM.

Is this still the situation?


Yes. six for definite, another two possibly, depending on what Ofcom/
DCMS decide about the 'digital dividend' sell off of UHF Chs 31-40 and
63-68.



Yes, that confirms what I've just said in another post. Thanks.


The six muxes will only be available from the present 80 stations that
already carry DTT, plus Fremont Point on Jersey. The remaining 1074
stations will only carry 3 muxes.

Predicted population coverage will be 90% for the six muxes, 99%ish
for three.

Present DTT coverage is about 73% (for Mux 1)



Right.


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Agamemnon March 12th 07 10:47 PM

How many DTT muxes after switchover?
 

"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be 8
DTT muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be
using 64-QAM.
Is this still the situation?



There's some information about this on pages 12-19 on he

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/speech.../rrcslides.pdf

On page 12 it says

3 national DVB-T muxes for PSB
3 national DVB-T muxes for COM
2 national DVB-T muxes for Digital Dividend (without pre-judging what
their eventual use might be)

So from reading this and some other documents on the Ofcom website it
looks to like there will be 6 DVB-T muxes and the "2 national DVB-T muxes
for Digital Dividend" are the channels that will be freed-up and auctioned
off. So there will only be 8 DTT muxes *if* the broadcasters win the
auctions.

Is this how others understand the current situation?


Unless OfCom sells out to Sky and lets them broadcast in their own
proprietary MPEG-4 system in which case there will only be 5 multiplexes
available on Freeview.


DAB sounds worse than FM March 12th 07 11:21 PM

How many DTT muxes after switchover?
 
Agamemnon wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
The last time I read about this Ofcom was saying that there will be
8 DTT muxes after switchover instead of 6 now and they would all be
using 64-QAM.
Is this still the situation?



There's some information about this on pages 12-19 on he

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/speech.../rrcslides.pdf

On page 12 it says

3 national DVB-T muxes for PSB
3 national DVB-T muxes for COM
2 national DVB-T muxes for Digital Dividend (without pre-judging what
their eventual use might be)

So from reading this and some other documents on the Ofcom website it
looks to like there will be 6 DVB-T muxes and the "2 national DVB-T
muxes for Digital Dividend" are the channels that will be freed-up
and auctioned off. So there will only be 8 DTT muxes *if* the
broadcasters win the auctions.

Is this how others understand the current situation?


Unless OfCom sells out to Sky and lets them broadcast in their own
proprietary MPEG-4 system in which case there will only be 5
multiplexes available on Freeview.



Does Sky own a full multiplex? If not, and I've never heard that they do,
then I think all Sky is actually doing is using the capacity it already has,
withdrawing Sky 3, Sky News and Sky Sports News and launching 4 TV channels
using MPEG-4 and making them a mini subscription service, a bit like Top-Up
TV.

So the situation with capacity will be unchanged, albeit that there will be
3 less TV channels.


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Mark Carver March 13th 07 10:02 PM

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Edster wrote:
Mike Henry wrote in message

"Sky is to postpone plans to take its channels off Freeview and is
considering showing football on Sky One


Great. More schedules ****ed up to make room for some blokes kicking a
ball about and kissing each other.


Does anybody actually bother to watch Sky One ? Surely it's cheaper to buy the
DVD boxed sets of whatever series you might want to watch, and view them
without DOGs, commercials, or ILR reject continuity announcers jabbering all
over the end credits ?

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Mark Carver March 13th 07 11:32 PM

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Mike Henry wrote:

I doubt it would be cheaper, but anyway I've just watched the world
premiere of the Stargate SG-1 final episode. Obviously I FF through
adverts as I've done for 5 1/2 years with my TiVo. To wait for and enjoy
a DVD version would entail many months of difficult spoiler-avoidance.


I managed it with Series 5 of 24. Watched the last ep on DVD last weekend, but
I take your point.


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Slitheen March 14th 07 07:13 PM

How many DTT muxes after switchover?
 

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Edster wrote:
Mike Henry wrote in message

"Sky is to postpone plans to take its channels off Freeview and is
considering showing football on Sky One


Great. More schedules ****ed up to make room for some blokes kicking a
ball about and kissing each other.


Does anybody actually bother to watch Sky One ? Surely it's cheaper to buy
the DVD boxed sets of whatever series you might want to watch, and view
them without DOGs, commercials, or ILR reject continuity announcers
jabbering all over the end credits ?



Bittorent is even cheaper still. You can watch Lost and 24 etc mere hours
after they're shown in the states - and all commercials are already neatly
edited for you. Of course you can still buy the DVD's when they're available
here, as I do with my favourite shows like the two above, but one doesn't
have to line Murdoch's pockets while you wait for them.



Slitheen March 14th 07 11:10 PM

How many DTT muxes after switchover?
 

"Edster" wrote in message
...
"Slitheen" wrote in message


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Edster wrote:
Mike Henry wrote in message

"Sky is to postpone plans to take its channels off Freeview and is
considering showing football on Sky One

Great. More schedules ****ed up to make room for some blokes kicking a
ball about and kissing each other.

Does anybody actually bother to watch Sky One ? Surely it's cheaper to
buy
the DVD boxed sets of whatever series you might want to watch, and view
them without DOGs, commercials, or ILR reject continuity announcers
jabbering all over the end credits ?



Bittorent is even cheaper still. You can watch Lost and 24 etc mere hours
after they're shown in the states - and all commercials are already neatly
edited for you. Of course you can still buy the DVD's when they're
available
here, as I do with my favourite shows like the two above, but one doesn't
have to line Murdoch's pockets while you wait for them.


American TV also puts a lot less junk on screen during programmes. The
logos are much smaller, almost transparent, and at the bottom of the
screen where they won't cover up people's faces. And there are no
coming next banners or writing across the top of the screen
advertising other programmes later in the week.



Perhaps in the main, but unfortunately not the case with the US Sci-Fi
channel. They are the worst for logos and text for advertising the upcoming
prog - which plague my Battlestar Galactica downloads. They're only to make
do until I can buy R2 DVD sets though, so no worries.

Still way better than lining Murdoch's pockets though. I have never paid Sky
a penny, and I don't intend to start. If there's a match on I want to see, I
go down the pub and by a couple of bottles of coke (tea total). If I want to
watch Lost and 24 etc, I download the torrents.



Slitheen March 16th 07 03:43 AM

How many DTT muxes after switchover?
 

"Edster" wrote in message
...
"Slitheen" wrote in message

American TV also puts a lot less junk on screen during programmes. The
logos are much smaller, almost transparent, and at the bottom of the
screen where they won't cover up people's faces. And there are no
coming next banners or writing across the top of the screen
advertising other programmes later in the week.



Perhaps in the main, but unfortunately not the case with the US Sci-Fi
channel. They are the worst for logos and text for advertising the
upcoming
prog - which plague my Battlestar Galactica downloads. They're only to
make
do until I can buy R2 DVD sets though, so no worries.


The Scifi channel in the UK is unwatchable because of all the junk
they put on screen, so it wouldn't really surprise me if the US
version was almost as bad. The real problem here though, is that even
channels like BBC2 and ITV1 are going down that route.


Yip, perhaps it is the future of our TV? :'(




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