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The problem I have I can only watch programs through Sky. The guy did not
leave the channels as they were previously it is all screwed up. For some
reason he tuned it in to the AV channel.

Correct me if I am wrong but don't you connect the Sky box to the video
recorder (I have not got round to recordable DVD yet.) and then run a
connection from the video recorder to the TV ?

I have tried this and it don't work.

Do anyone know how to connect it up or why it will not work.
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The Count of Baldoni wrote:

The problem I have I can only watch programs through Sky. The guy did not
leave the channels as they were previously it is all screwed up. For some
reason he tuned it in to the AV channel.

Correct me if I am wrong but don't you connect the Sky box to the video
recorder (I have not got round to recordable DVD yet.) and then run a
connection from the video recorder to the TV ?

I have tried this and it don't work.

Do anyone know how to connect it up or why it will not work.

IF you have two scarts on the VCR you take sky into the video scart
marked decoder/cable etc and the other scart into your tv. You can
then watch sky through the av switch on your vcr. You can also run the
second scart marked tv from sky into your tv if the tv has two scart
sockets. You must make sure the scarts are plugged into the correct
sockets.

the tv aerial should go through the sky box, into the vcr and out
again to the telly.

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"Paul Heslop" wrote in message

| The Count of Baldoni wrote:
||
|| The problem I have I can only watch programs through Sky. The guy
|| did not leave the channels as they were previously it is all screwed
|| up. For some reason he tuned it in to the AV channel.
||
|| Correct me if I am wrong but don't you connect the Sky box to the
|| video recorder (I have not got round to recordable DVD yet.) and
|| then run a connection from the video recorder to the TV ?
||
|| I have tried this and it don't work.
||
|| Do anyone know how to connect it up or why it will not work.
|
| IF you have two scarts on the VCR you take sky into the video scart
| marked decoder/cable etc and the other scart into your tv. You can
| then watch sky through the av switch on your vcr. You can also run the
| second scart marked tv from sky into your tv if the tv has two scart
| sockets. You must make sure the scarts are plugged into the correct
| sockets.
|
| the tv aerial should go through the sky box, into the vcr and out
| again to the telly.

Many thanks the only problem is that I have only one scart socket on the
VCR. I do have this scart adaptor that 3 scart leads can plug into.

Do you mean run the actual TV aerial into the box ?

NTL was different as the channels could be tuned in without this.

--
"A horse a horse, my kingdom for a horse".

I haven't had a winner for six months.

The Count

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The Count of Baldoni wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message

| The Count of Baldoni wrote:
||
|| The problem I have I can only watch programs through Sky. The guy
|| did not leave the channels as they were previously it is all screwed
|| up. For some reason he tuned it in to the AV channel.
||
|| Correct me if I am wrong but don't you connect the Sky box to the
|| video recorder (I have not got round to recordable DVD yet.) and
|| then run a connection from the video recorder to the TV ?
||
|| I have tried this and it don't work.
||
|| Do anyone know how to connect it up or why it will not work.
|
| IF you have two scarts on the VCR you take sky into the video scart
| marked decoder/cable etc and the other scart into your tv. You can
| then watch sky through the av switch on your vcr. You can also run the
| second scart marked tv from sky into your tv if the tv has two scart
| sockets. You must make sure the scarts are plugged into the correct
| sockets.
|
| the tv aerial should go through the sky box, into the vcr and out
| again to the telly.

Many thanks the only problem is that I have only one scart socket on the
VCR. I do have this scart adaptor that 3 scart leads can plug into.

Do you mean run the actual TV aerial into the box ?

NTL was different as the channels could be tuned in without this.

--
"A horse a horse, my kingdom for a horse".

I haven't had a winner for six months.

The Count

yeah, that one scart on the vcr is a killer, but if that adapter has
switches or autoswitching then you'll be okay. we had a twin one which
said you could only use it to take two scarts out of something, not
one in and one out, so a switchable one is best. you are supposed to
be able to wire up the vcr to run through the sky box but I've never
done this deliberately.

Some web pages give diagrams for setting things up, this one has a
diagram

http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/connect.html

or you could put your info in here
http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/connecthelp.php

I haven't used NTL and it's a long time since I was on telewest but
you don't need an aerial if you don't normally use one,
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Paul Heslop wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong but don't you connect the Sky box to the video
recorder (I have not got round to recordable DVD yet.) and then run a
connection from the video recorder to the TV ?

IF you have two scarts on the VCR you take sky into the video scart
marked decoder/cable etc and the other scart into your tv.

No, you don't.

In all cases the connections are as follows:

VCR scart 1 = digibox "VCR" scart socket
Digibox "TV" scart socket = TV scart 1.

Set the digibox to RGB.


the tv aerial should go through the sky box, into the vcr and out
again to the telly.

Never, unless you have a second distant TV.

The RF leads should go from the antenna to the VCR to the TV only.
They should not be connected to the digibox.

See the FAQ.

--
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The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
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Paul Heslop wrote:

yeah, that one scart on the vcr is a killer,

No, it isn't. He needs no scart adaptor.


Some web pages give diagrams for setting things up, this one has a
diagram

http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/connect.html

This site is just plain wrong.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

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Jomtien wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote:

yeah, that one scart on the vcr is a killer,

No, it isn't. He needs no scart adaptor.

Some web pages give diagrams for setting things up, this one has a
diagram

http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/connect.html

This site is just plain wrong.

Good, I am glad you popped up... I know there was another better place
with advice but couldn't remember where.

So you are one of the believers in sending the signal through the box?
I think if you had bothered to check ALL of my comments to the OP you
would have noticed I suggested that you could do this too, but that i
couldn't really say whether it worked as I had never done it.

"you are supposed to be able to wire up the vcr to run through the sky
box but I've neverdone this deliberately."


in wiring up my own equipment I have often found advice from others to
not work well in my own situation, or even what worked with one set of
machinery didn't work with another. so I would never tell ANYONE that
their ideas don't work or that my idea is the only one that does.





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Jomtien wrote:
Paul Heslop wrote:

yeah, that one scart on the vcr is a killer,

No, it isn't. He needs no scart adaptor.

You have this very annoying habit of making unhelpful and curt posts
bordering on rudeness. Making obscure definitive statements like the one
above, with no further explanation, is utterly pointless.

Either explain what you mean or don't bother posting.

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"Paul Heslop" wrote in message

| The Count of Baldoni wrote:
||
|| "Paul Heslop" wrote in message
||
||| The Count of Baldoni wrote:
||||
|||| The problem I have I can only watch programs through Sky. The guy
|||| did not leave the channels as they were previously it is all
|||| screwed up. For some reason he tuned it in to the AV channel.
||||
|||| Correct me if I am wrong but don't you connect the Sky box to the
|||| video recorder (I have not got round to recordable DVD yet.) and
|||| then run a connection from the video recorder to the TV ?
||||
|||| I have tried this and it don't work.
||||
|||| Do anyone know how to connect it up or why it will not work.
|||
||| IF you have two scarts on the VCR you take sky into the video scart
||| marked decoder/cable etc and the other scart into your tv. You can
||| then watch sky through the av switch on your vcr. You can also run
||| the second scart marked tv from sky into your tv if the tv has two
||| scart sockets. You must make sure the scarts are plugged into the
||| correct sockets.
|||
||| the tv aerial should go through the sky box, into the vcr and out
||| again to the telly.
||
|| Many thanks the only problem is that I have only one scart socket on
|| the VCR. I do have this scart adaptor that 3 scart leads can plug
|| into.
||
|| Do you mean run the actual TV aerial into the box ?
||
|| NTL was different as the channels could be tuned in without this.
||
|| --
|| "A horse a horse, my kingdom for a horse".
||
|| I haven't had a winner for six months.
||
|| The Count
|
| yeah, that one scart on the vcr is a killer, but if that adapter has
| switches or autoswitching then you'll be okay. we had a twin one which
| said you could only use it to take two scarts out of something, not
| one in and one out, so a switchable one is best. you are supposed to
| be able to wire up the vcr to run through the sky box but I've never
| done this deliberately.
|
| Some web pages give diagrams for setting things up, this one has a
| diagram
|
| http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/connect.html
|
| or you could put your info in here
| http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/connecthelp.php
|
| I haven't used NTL and it's a long time since I was on telewest but
| you don't need an aerial if you don't normally use one,

I had a look at my mothers Sky box today (she is not local) and I can see
exactly what you mean in the earlier reply.

Thanks again.

--
"A horse a horse, my kingdom for a horse".

I haven't had a winner for six months.

The Count

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Mike Henry wrote:

In , "Vaughan"
wrote:

Jomtien wrote:
Paul Heslop wrote:

yeah, that one scart on the vcr is a killer,

No, it isn't. He needs no scart adaptor.

You have this very annoying habit of making unhelpful and curt posts
bordering on rudeness. Making obscure definitive statements like the one
above, with no further explanation, is utterly pointless.

It would have been - but Jomtien didn't. In his sig is a link to the FAQ
which explains it fully.

Either explain what you mean or don't bother posting.

The purpose of a FAQ is to avoid clogging up the group with FAQs, hence
the lack of repeating lengthy answers.

he still basically slagged off my replies, when all I was doing was
trying to help someone.

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Paul Heslop wrote:

So you are one of the believers in sending the signal through the box?
I think if you had bothered to check ALL of my comments to the OP you
would have noticed I suggested that you could do this too, but that i
couldn't really say whether it worked as I had never done it.

"you are supposed to be able to wire up the vcr to run through the sky
box but I've neverdone this deliberately."

I've done this thousands of times. It works perfectly with ALL scart
equipment that isn't faulty.

It is the only procedure that will ALWAYS work correctly, with
equipment that isn't faulty.

It is also the procedure that is described in the Sky manual.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

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Paul Heslop wrote:

he still basically slagged off my replies, when all I was doing was
trying to help someone.

If you had read the FAQ you would have learnt the correct way of
connecting these devices up (guaranteed to work perfectly every time
if the equipment isn't faulty).

When I see a post that says "the sun rises in the West" the only way I
can respond is by saying "no, it doesn't". There are no two ways about
this, however helpful the poster is trying to be. Saying this is not
slagging anyone off.

Scart connections are the same: there is only one way to do it
correctly. All other ways are wrong.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

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Vaughan wrote:

You have this very annoying habit of making unhelpful and curt posts
bordering on rudeness. Making obscure definitive statements like the one
above, with no further explanation, is utterly pointless.

Either explain what you mean or don't bother posting.

A shame you missed this post before spouting off:



You can apologise whenever you like.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Sky installed last week
 

Jomtien wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote:

So you are one of the believers in sending the signal through the box?
I think if you had bothered to check ALL of my comments to the OP you
would have noticed I suggested that you could do this too, but that i
couldn't really say whether it worked as I had never done it.

"you are supposed to be able to wire up the vcr to run through the sky
box but I've neverdone this deliberately."

I've done this thousands of times. It works perfectly with ALL scart
equipment that isn't faulty.

It is the only procedure that will ALWAYS work correctly, with
equipment that isn't faulty.

It is also the procedure that is described in the Sky manual.

yes. whatever you say.


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Jomtien wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote:

he still basically slagged off my replies, when all I was doing was
trying to help someone.

If you had read the FAQ you would have learnt the correct way of
connecting these devices up (guaranteed to work perfectly every time
if the equipment isn't faulty).

When I see a post that says "the sun rises in the West" the only way I
can respond is by saying "no, it doesn't". There are no two ways about
this, however helpful the poster is trying to be. Saying this is not
slagging anyone off.

Scart connections are the same: there is only one way to do it
correctly. All other ways are wrong.

There are ways of saying and doing things, Jomtien, and the best way
to put a person off trying to help people is to bluntly contradict
what they have said.

There are reasons I do things the way I do them.

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Jomtien wrote:

Vaughan wrote:

You have this very annoying habit of making unhelpful and curt posts
bordering on rudeness. Making obscure definitive statements like the one
above, with no further explanation, is utterly pointless.

Either explain what you mean or don't bother posting.

A shame you missed this post before spouting off:



You can apologise whenever you like.

likewise


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The RF leads should go from the antenna to the VCR to the TV only.
They should not be connected to the digibox.


Not always - I run the aerial lead into the Sky box, then out of the Sky box
and into my Media Center PC - thus bringing with it all the terrestrial
channels and adding the satellite channel to the mix. There is no scart on
the PC, so that is the only way to bring all the signals in.

D.

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David Wright wrote:

The RF leads should go from the antenna to the VCR to the TV only.
They should not be connected to the digibox.

Not always - I run the aerial lead into the Sky box, then out of the Sky box
and into my Media Center PC - thus bringing with it all the terrestrial
channels and adding the satellite channel to the mix. There is no scart on
the PC, so that is the only way to bring all the signals in.

Perhaps you didn't see this:

Never, unless you have a second distant TV.

immediately above the part you quoted.

The thread was referring to scart installations, of course, and with
the absence of scart connections your PC counts as a second distant
TV.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

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Jomtien wrote:
Paul Heslop wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong but don't you connect the Sky box to the
video recorder (I have not got round to recordable DVD yet.) and
then run a connection from the video recorder to the TV ?

IF you have two scarts on the VCR you take sky into the video scart
marked decoder/cable etc and the other scart into your tv.

No, you don't.

In all cases the connections are as follows:

VCR scart 1 = digibox "VCR" scart socket
Digibox "TV" scart socket = TV scart 1.

Why all cases? This is certainly a simple solution, but isn't the problem
here the fact that you wouldn't be able to record RGB from the Sky box? The
box's 'VCR' scart is not RGB enabled as far as I know (willing/hoping to be
proved wrong!).

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Mike Henry wrote:
In , "DannyT"
wrote:

Jomtien wrote:
Paul Heslop wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong but don't you connect the Sky box to the
video recorder (I have not got round to recordable DVD yet.) and
then run a connection from the video recorder to the TV ?

IF you have two scarts on the VCR you take sky into the video scart
marked decoder/cable etc and the other scart into your tv.

No, you don't.

In all cases the connections are as follows:

VCR scart 1 = digibox "VCR" scart socket
Digibox "TV" scart socket = TV scart 1.

Why all cases? This is certainly a simple solution, but isn't the
problem here the fact that you wouldn't be able to record RGB from
the Sky box?

It's "all cases" for VCRs, because all VCRs can record composite and
no VCRs record RGB.

The
box's 'VCR' scart is not RGB enabled as far as I know
(willing/hoping to be proved wrong!).

The VCR SCART socket on the digibox accepts RGB and composite as INPUT
for PASSTHROUGH, but it only outputs composite. Given that the output
of the VCR SCART socket is only going to be used for a VCR, the
connections above are the best to use and give RGB output to the TV
for live viewing.

Thanks for clarifying that. So Paul Heslop's suggestions in this thread are
perfectly valid, in particular for those with DVD recorders which can record
RGB from external devices.

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Mike Henry wrote:

in particular for those with DVD recorders which can record
RGB from external devices.

Er, *only* for those with DVD recorders (or other devices) which can
record RGB from external devices.

Not forgetting that some DVD recorders support the autoview/autorecord
digibox function that only works via the digibox "VCR" socket.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

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DannyT wrote:

So Paul Heslop's suggestions in this thread are
perfectly valid, in particular for those with DVD recorders which can record
RGB from external devices.

Only to a limited extent.

One suggestion was to connect the devices as follows:

Digibox "TV" scart = Recorder "AV2" scart
Recorder "AV1" scart = TV scart 1

and this would be correct in *some* cases with a device that can
record RGB (which wasn't the subject of this thread). In other cases
this would not be correct, even with devices that can record RGB.

Another technique is to use three scart leads to connect the three
devices (TV, digibox, VCR/DVDR) in a circular fashion and this is just
plain wrong. A common mistake, but wrong none the less.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)