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Ryan March 1st 07 10:17 PM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
Hi
Trying to record sky onto a dvd recorder. All set up using scart leads(scart
from sky box to crown cdvdrw recorder,then another scart from recorder to
tv) but cannot seem to get any vision through the dvd recorder.
Can get sound just no vision and same when i record.
Anyone shed any light? do sky put a "stop" on recording from sky box?

Ryan



Paul Heslop March 2nd 07 12:40 AM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
Ryan wrote:

Hi
Trying to record sky onto a dvd recorder. All set up using scart leads(scart
from sky box to crown cdvdrw recorder,then another scart from recorder to
tv) but cannot seem to get any vision through the dvd recorder.
Can get sound just no vision and same when i record.
Anyone shed any light? do sky put a "stop" on recording from sky box?

Ryan


there are some channels you cannot record, such as pay per view. All
the rest will record as far as I am aware. You need full 21 pin
scarts, use one from the TV output of the sky box into the dvd
recorder (must be connected to the input scart socket, may be marked
sat/cable/decoder or something along those lines. You then take the
other scart from the dvd into the tv, again, make sure you have it
into the input socket on the tv. You then set your dvd recorder to
whichever input is marked for your sky box, av1 or whatever it is
called and everything should work properly. I am not sure if you need
to check that you have scart control switched on on the sky box too...
I'm sure someone else can fill any gaps I have left.

--
Paul (Please dont take a picture)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

alrafter March 2nd 07 01:05 AM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
On Mar 1, 9:17 pm, "Ryan" wrote:
Hi
Trying to record sky onto a dvd recorder. All set up using scart leads(scart
from sky box to crown cdvdrw recorder,then another scart from recorder to
tv) but cannot seem to get any vision through the dvd recorder.
Can get sound just no vision and same when i record.
Anyone shed any light? do sky put a "stop" on recording from sky box?

Ryan


There is no block on recording from the Sky box. .
I have not got your make of recorder,but have you checked that you are
connecting as recommended by the recorders instructions?Mine goes from
the sky box to the recorder then on to the TV.
Also have you checked the picture settings on the box to ensure that
you are inputting the right type of signal to the recorder? For
instance RGB to an RGB input on your recorder.


Nigel Barker March 2nd 07 09:10 AM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:17:27 GMT, "Ryan" wrote:

Hi
Trying to record sky onto a dvd recorder. All set up using scart leads(scart
from sky box to crown cdvdrw recorder,then another scart from recorder to
tv) but cannot seem to get any vision through the dvd recorder.
Can get sound just no vision and same when i record.
Anyone shed any light? do sky put a "stop" on recording from sky box?


Are you sure that you have the correct SCART cable? Many are directional (IN or
OUT). You either need the correct directional one, a fully wired one or a
directional one with a switch.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Paul Hyett March 2nd 07 09:27 AM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
In uk.media.tv.sky on Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Paul Heslop wrote :
Ryan wrote:

Hi
Trying to record sky onto a dvd recorder. All set up using scart leads(scart
from sky box to crown cdvdrw recorder,then another scart from recorder to
tv) but cannot seem to get any vision through the dvd recorder.
Can get sound just no vision and same when i record.
Anyone shed any light? do sky put a "stop" on recording from sky box?

Ryan


there are some channels you cannot record, such as pay per view. All
the rest will record as far as I am aware.


I've been unable to record several of the Discovery ones for the past
month or two. My Lite-On LVW5045 comes up with a 'Protected Content'
message if I try.
--
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

Paul Heslop March 2nd 07 11:17 AM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
Paul Hyett wrote:

In uk.media.tv.sky on Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Paul Heslop wrote :
Ryan wrote:

Hi
Trying to record sky onto a dvd recorder. All set up using scart leads(scart
from sky box to crown cdvdrw recorder,then another scart from recorder to
tv) but cannot seem to get any vision through the dvd recorder.
Can get sound just no vision and same when i record.
Anyone shed any light? do sky put a "stop" on recording from sky box?

Ryan


there are some channels you cannot record, such as pay per view. All
the rest will record as far as I am aware.


I've been unable to record several of the Discovery ones for the past
month or two. My Lite-On LVW5045 comes up with a 'Protected Content'
message if I try.
--
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett


Yeah, I never did work out if it was the channels or the recorder
itself, but I think I mentioned that happened to me when I owned a
Sharp DVD recorder. The panasonics have no problems on the discovery
channels.
--
Paul (Please dont take a picture)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

Ryan March 2nd 07 01:02 PM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
Thanks for all your advice guys. Going to give it a try a bit later.
I didnt realise there were directional scarts though?! How can you tell?



"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:17:27 GMT, "Ryan" wrote:

Hi
Trying to record sky onto a dvd recorder. All set up using scart
leads(scart
from sky box to crown cdvdrw recorder,then another scart from recorder to
tv) but cannot seem to get any vision through the dvd recorder.
Can get sound just no vision and same when i record.
Anyone shed any light? do sky put a "stop" on recording from sky box?


Are you sure that you have the correct SCART cable? Many are directional
(IN or
OUT). You either need the correct directional one, a fully wired one or a
directional one with a switch.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur




Paul Heslop March 2nd 07 01:09 PM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
Ryan wrote:

Thanks for all your advice guys. Going to give it a try a bit later.
I didnt realise there were directional scarts though?! How can you tell?

some scarts have a little switch on the scart end itself, it will say
something like in/out. I am a little unsure about the ones with
missing pins, whether they work both ways, but most if not all dvd
recorder advise a full scart lead.



--
Paul (Please dont take a picture)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

Ryan March 2nd 07 01:11 PM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
And how can you tell if its a full scart lead?
Sorry if i sound a bit thick never realised so much to it!


"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
Ryan wrote:

Thanks for all your advice guys. Going to give it a try a bit later.
I didnt realise there were directional scarts though?! How can you tell?

some scarts have a little switch on the scart end itself, it will say
something like in/out. I am a little unsure about the ones with
missing pins, whether they work both ways, but most if not all dvd
recorder advise a full scart lead.



--
Paul (Please dont take a picture)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/




Paul Heslop March 2nd 07 01:22 PM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
Ryan wrote:

And how can you tell if its a full scart lead?
Sorry if i sound a bit thick never realised so much to it!

IF you can unscrew the black lump off the boxy bit at the end you can
usually open them up and check it has the full compliment of wires.
Howver sometimes they don't go back together very well, which is not
good.


--
Paul (Please dont take a picture)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

[email protected] March 2nd 07 02:52 PM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
On 2 Mar, 12:02, "Ryan" wrote:
Thanks for all your advice guys. Going to give it a try a bit later.
I didnt realise there were directional scarts though?! How can you tell?


Well, here is how I would proceed......

Plug the SCART lead direct from the output of the SKY box (note - only
the TV out does RGB, the VCR is PAL/Composite only) directly into
your TV and check you get a picture. If so, then the lead certtainly
works in that direction (you could try both RGB and PAL if you are
using the TV socket).

Alternatively, if you know that the SCART from the DVD to the TV is
ok, just swap them over such that the end that it currently on the DVD
goes to the SKY box, and the end on the SKY box goes to the DVD.

Note - many SCART problems can be resolved simply by swapping the
cable ends round!

I would think that the problem you have is not related to cables, but
to the settings on the SKY box and DVD not matching in terms of wheter
each box is putting out/expecting RGB/PAL.

HTH


Ryan March 2nd 07 04:48 PM

Sky and dvd recorder
 
How can you tell if the sky box is sending out RGB/pal? I can check if the
dvd recorder is by going into the menu, i have seen it once

wrote in message
oups.com...
On 2 Mar, 12:02, "Ryan" wrote:
Thanks for all your advice guys. Going to give it a try a bit later.
I didnt realise there were directional scarts though?! How can you tell?


Well, here is how I would proceed......

Plug the SCART lead direct from the output of the SKY box (note - only
the TV out does RGB, the VCR is PAL/Composite only) directly into
your TV and check you get a picture. If so, then the lead certtainly
works in that direction (you could try both RGB and PAL if you are
using the TV socket).

Alternatively, if you know that the SCART from the DVD to the TV is
ok, just swap them over such that the end that it currently on the DVD
goes to the SKY box, and the end on the SKY box goes to the DVD.

Note - many SCART problems can be resolved simply by swapping the
cable ends round!

I would think that the problem you have is not related to cables, but
to the settings on the SKY box and DVD not matching in terms of wheter
each box is putting out/expecting RGB/PAL.

HTH




Steve T March 2nd 07 05:35 PM

Sky and dvd recorder
 

"Ryan" wrote in message
...
How can you tell if the sky box is sending out RGB/pal? I can check if the
dvd recorder is by going into the menu, i have seen it once


Services, System Setup, Picture Settings, Scart Video Output

However, I'm pretty sure I've seen someone cleverer than me post to this
group that the second SCART socket is always PAL regardless of this setting.

Cheers
Steve T




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