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Oric February 26th 07 06:10 PM

Sky Anytime snooping in your PC?
 
I have been having problems with large amounts of data LEAVING my PC. I have
run MacAfee for virii, good Malware and Spyware finders, Registry cleaners
etc etc and still the info was pouring out of my PC.
Well call me old fashioned, but after a couple of days of this I was
becoming paranoid. I found a neat little programme called Network Traffic
Monitor (from a guy called Nico Cuppen) in 20 seconds it identified a
programme called KService.exe as the naughty programme sending data by the
barrow load away from my beloved computer sending to 86.150.205.176
I further bit of investigation revealed that said programme was part of a
compulsory add on to SKY ANYTIME.
Is it just me, or do you think that someone was spying on my Internet usage
or is it my imagination??
As a precaution I have deleted Sky Anytime and all its associated programme
and files, and guess what, No more data drain....how strange.
Any one else had similar adventures???



Andy Hawkins February 26th 07 06:21 PM

Sky Anytime snooping in your PC?
 
Hi,

In article ,
wrote:
I further bit of investigation revealed that said programme was part of a
compulsory add on to SKY ANYTIME.
Is it just me, or do you think that someone was spying on my Internet usage
or is it my imagination??
As a precaution I have deleted Sky Anytime and all its associated programme
and files, and guess what, No more data drain....how strange.
Any one else had similar adventures???


Sky Anytime shares its files via a Peer to Peer network if I understand its
working correctly.

Hence any files you download are made available to other people.

Andy

Oric February 26th 07 08:51 PM

Sky Anytime snooping in your PC?
 

"Andy Hawkins" wrote in message
...
Hi,

In article ,
wrote:
I further bit of investigation revealed that said programme was part of a
compulsory add on to SKY ANYTIME.
Is it just me, or do you think that someone was spying on my Internet
usage
or is it my imagination??
As a precaution I have deleted Sky Anytime and all its associated
programme
and files, and guess what, No more data drain....how strange.
Any one else had similar adventures???


Sky Anytime shares its files via a Peer to Peer network if I understand
its
working correctly.

Hence any files you download are made available to other people.

Andy


Andy, it could share files via carrier pigeon for all I care....but it
should only do it when I want it to. This data drain was happening without
my consent and definitely without me asking Sky for any film or content
download. Whatever was going on amounted to 220Megabytes on Sunday
afternoon...that's a lot of piers or pigeons, whatever way you look at it
:-)



Tumbleweed February 26th 07 11:11 PM

Sky Anytime snooping in your PC?
 

"Oric" wrote in message
...
I have been having problems with large amounts of data LEAVING my PC. I
have run MacAfee for virii, good Malware and Spyware finders, Registry
cleaners etc etc and still the info was pouring out of my PC.
Well call me old fashioned, but after a couple of days of this I was
becoming paranoid. I found a neat little programme called Network Traffic
Monitor (from a guy called Nico Cuppen) in 20 seconds it identified a
programme called KService.exe as the naughty programme sending data by the
barrow load away from my beloved computer sending to 86.150.205.176
I further bit of investigation revealed that said programme was part of a
compulsory add on to SKY ANYTIME.
Is it just me, or do you think that someone was spying on my Internet
usage or is it my imagination??
As a precaution I have deleted Sky Anytime and all its associated
programme and files, and guess what, No more data drain....how strange.
Any one else had similar adventures???


Plonker, did you not read how Anytime works?

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tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com




Steve R February 27th 07 01:58 AM

Sky Anytime snooping in your PC?
 

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...
In , "Oric"
wrote:

Andy, it could share files via carrier pigeon for all I care....but it
should only do it when I want it to. This data drain was happening without
my consent


No it wasn't, you agreed to it when you signed up for Sky Anytime.

http://anytime.sky.com/terms/terms_pc.aspx
"8. Uploading Content

If you download and save content to your computer system (a "File"),
during the license (sic) period for the relevant File, we may upload
parcels of content from the File from your computer system for the
purpose of transferring Files to other users of the Service."

and definitely without me asking Sky for any film or content
download.


Are you certain that you or someone else in your household didn't
download anything? (it must have been uploading piece of *something*!)
When did you install it?

Whatever was going on amounted to 220Megabytes on Sunday
afternoon...that's a lot of piers or pigeons, whatever way you look at it
:-)


If that was say 6 hours then I make that an upload speed of 10.43KB per
second. So it wasn't even using 1/3rd of your upload bandwidth.
[Standard ADSL is 256Kbps upload (32KB/s). ADSLMax is 448Kbps upload
(56KB/s).]

HTH


220MB in an afternoon? So are there any limits in the software on this? Is
anything configurable?
It's just over 30 afternoons that would be approx 6GB . Add in mornings,
evenings and nights and you could be looking at 24GB in a month - if you had
the computer on all the time ( I don't but I know people who just leave it
on the whole time!) .
That is a lot of data and would put most people over or very close to any
bandwidth cap on its own. If this is the case then I reckon Sky are going to
be getting a lot of angry anytime customers anytime soon...

Steve



Oric February 27th 07 05:29 PM

Sky Anytime snooping in your PC?
 

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...
In , "Steve R"
wrote:
"Mike Henry" wrote in message
. ..
In , "Oric"
wrote:

Andy, it could share files via carrier pigeon for all I care....but it
should only do it when I want it to. This data drain was happening
without
my consent

No it wasn't, you agreed to it when you signed up for Sky Anytime.

http://anytime.sky.com/terms/terms_pc.aspx
"8. Uploading Content

If you download and save content to your computer system (a "File"),
during the license (sic) period for the relevant File, we may upload
parcels of content from the File from your computer system for the
purpose of transferring Files to other users of the Service."

and definitely without me asking Sky for any film or content
download.

Are you certain that you or someone else in your household didn't
download anything? (it must have been uploading piece of *something*!)
When did you install it?

Whatever was going on amounted to 220Megabytes on Sunday
afternoon...that's a lot of piers or pigeons, whatever way you look at
it
:-)

If that was say 6 hours then I make that an upload speed of 10.43KB per
second. So it wasn't even using 1/3rd of your upload bandwidth.
[Standard ADSL is 256Kbps upload (32KB/s). ADSLMax is 448Kbps upload
(56KB/s).]

HTH


220MB in an afternoon? So are there any limits in the software on this? Is
anything configurable?


I don't know, I haven't seen the software. But there certainly no limits
mentioned in the T&C that I can see!

It's just over 30 afternoons that would be approx 6GB . Add in mornings,
evenings and nights and you could be looking at 24GB in a month - if you
had
the computer on all the time ( I don't but I know people who just leave it
on the whole time!) .
That is a lot of data and would put most people over or very close to any
bandwidth cap on its own. If this is the case then I reckon Sky are going
to
be getting a lot of angry anytime customers anytime soon...


Er, why? They could only be angry if they haven't read and understood
the T&C, and it was a "surprise" that their PC was uploading with no
limits. And if they are using the service without having read and
understood the T&C, then they only have themselves to blame.

Its all fair and good for those geneii in the group who are highly computer
literate, but most ov us users have basic knowledge (which is growing,
thanks to the kind people in this group)

File sharing means nothing to me, and don't go harping on about Terms and
Conditions.....I erroneously thought Sky could be trusted, and not use my
computer as some sort of freebee relay point, using my bandwidth and slowing
down said computer



Simon Finnigan February 27th 07 05:47 PM

Sky Anytime snooping in your PC?
 
"Oric" wrote in message
...
File sharing means nothing to me, and don't go harping on about Terms and
Conditions.....I erroneously thought Sky could be trusted, and not use my
computer as some sort of freebee relay point, using my bandwidth and
slowing down said computer



You agreed to the terms and conditions - would you rather Sky charged you
the cost of providing the servers needed to get the amount of data needed to
you? Most likely you`d have a much slower service if all the data came from
Sky rather than via P2P - if you choose to install software on your PC
without reading the T&C then you don`t really have any right to complain
when the software does exactly what it said it would do.

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Oric February 27th 07 08:24 PM

Sky Anytime snooping in your PC?
 


Its all fair and good for those geneii in the group who are highly
computer
literate, but most ov us users have basic knowledge (which is growing,
thanks to the kind people in this group)

File sharing means nothing to me, and don't go harping on about Terms and
Conditions...


Fine, if you'll stop harping on about Sky using your bandwidth.


Silly me, and there I was thinking that Newsgroups where a place to share
and help other in a spirit of camaraderie. A place where you can air your
concerns without fear of ridicule and somewhere where you can genuinely
learn.....but what do I know?
Apologies to all the nice friendly people who have helped me understand, but
the smart arses in this group make me want puke.



Simon Finnigan February 27th 07 08:32 PM

Sky Anytime snooping in your PC?
 
"Oric" wrote in message
...


Its all fair and good for those geneii in the group who are highly
computer
literate, but most ov us users have basic knowledge (which is growing,
thanks to the kind people in this group)
File sharing means nothing to me, and don't go harping on about Terms and
Conditions...


Fine, if you'll stop harping on about Sky using your bandwidth.


Silly me, and there I was thinking that Newsgroups where a place to share
and help other in a spirit of camaraderie. A place where you can air your
concerns without fear of ridicule and somewhere where you can genuinely
learn.....but what do I know?
Apologies to all the nice friendly people who have helped me understand,
but the smart arses in this group make me want puke.



Slating Sky for doing something you had given them express permission to do
doesn`t exactly put you in a good place to complain about anyone elses
attitude does it?

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http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZscousesifinQQhtZ-1



Oric February 27th 07 08:41 PM

Sky Anytime snooping in your PC?
 

"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message
...
"Oric" wrote in message
...


Its all fair and good for those geneii in the group who are highly
computer
literate, but most ov us users have basic knowledge (which is growing,
thanks to the kind people in this group)
File sharing means nothing to me, and don't go harping on about Terms
and
Conditions...

Fine, if you'll stop harping on about Sky using your bandwidth.


Silly me, and there I was thinking that Newsgroups where a place to share
and help other in a spirit of camaraderie. A place where you can air your
concerns without fear of ridicule and somewhere where you can genuinely
learn.....but what do I know?
Apologies to all the nice friendly people who have helped me understand,
but the smart arses in this group make me want puke.



Slating Sky for doing something you had given them express permission to
do doesn`t exactly put you in a good place to complain about anyone elses
attitude does it?

Thank you for your help and support Simon. Your efforts to make a newbie
to the group feel comfortable and safe are greatly appreciated.






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