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[email protected] February 15th 07 04:22 PM

first time HDTVer question
 
I just made my first purchase of a big tv the other day. Got a
Westinghouse LTV-32w6 HD. I am also currently a digital cable customer
through Brighthouse Networks (have a digital cable box). I set up the
tv the other night, have all the connections right, and when I turned
it the TV on for the first time, had to do the initial set up of
languauge, time zone and daylight saving before it got into the cable
you recieve selection. On this tv you can select either antenna or
cable firstly-selecting cable then asks the type of, automatic, STD,
IRC, HRC. Selecting automatic is supposed to choose for you but when
selelcting that after several minute (at least 10) it says it failed
(can't remember what the exact msg was). I am unsure what STD IRC and
HRC stand for but after restoring the TV to its factory settings and
trying each one invidually, it only finds 2 analog channels, and 0
digital (the two analog being 4 with a strong signal and 100 with a
weak signal). Now after this, I am able to watch tv and have my cable,
can surf through all my regular channels using only the cable box
remote, not the TV remote, however its only in 480i (this pops up in
the upper right hand corner after going through the channel searching
mode).
Last piece of info before the questions-my cable is hooked up solely
through white coax cable, from the wall to the box, the box to the
vcr, the vcr to the tv. All cords were provided by BrightHouse except
for the one going from the vcr to the tv ( had to buy that one at
Target to get it long enough to reach). I have tried unhooking the VCR
completely and just running from cable box to the tv and get the same
results.

With the set up I have, how do I improve the picture quality to
something more like a 720p? I am getting a HDTV box/upgrade from
Brighthouse, but that always takes a few days to get here and an
entire day of waiting around, but in the mean time, I would love to be
seeing a better picture resolution. Is it in the type of cables I'm
using, is it this particular TV (though in the specs it lists all
resolution except 1080p as far as capability). Am I hooking something
up wrong? Why does it not automatically choose a cable type? And what
does STD IRC and HRC stand for?
WHEW!!!!
Thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me!!


pistor February 15th 07 04:28 PM

first time HDTVer question
 
On Feb 15, 9:22 am, wrote:
Thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me!!


To get an HD signal you will need component or HDMI cables going
directly from your HD-capable cable box to the HDTV.

Victor



[email protected] February 15th 07 04:36 PM

first time HDTVer question
 
wrote:
I just made my first purchase of a big tv the other day. Got a
Westinghouse LTV-32w6 HD. I am also currently a digital cable customer
through Brighthouse Networks (have a digital cable box). I set up the
tv the other night, have all the connections right, and when I turned
it the TV on for the first time, had to do the initial set up of
languauge, time zone and daylight saving before it got into the cable
you recieve selection. On this tv you can select either antenna or
cable firstly-selecting cable then asks the type of, automatic, STD,
IRC, HRC. Selecting automatic is supposed to choose for you but when
selelcting that after several minute (at least 10) it says it failed
(can't remember what the exact msg was). I am unsure what STD IRC and
HRC stand for but after restoring the TV to its factory settings and
trying each one invidually, it only finds 2 analog channels, and 0
digital (the two analog being 4 with a strong signal and 100 with a
weak signal). Now after this, I am able to watch tv and have my cable,
can surf through all my regular channels using only the cable box
remote, not the TV remote, however its only in 480i (this pops up in
the upper right hand corner after going through the channel searching
mode).
Last piece of info before the questions-my cable is hooked up solely
through white coax cable, from the wall to the box, the box to the
vcr, the vcr to the tv. All cords were provided by BrightHouse except
for the one going from the vcr to the tv ( had to buy that one at
Target to get it long enough to reach). I have tried unhooking the VCR
completely and just running from cable box to the tv and get the same
results.

With the set up I have, how do I improve the picture quality to
something more like a 720p? I am getting a HDTV box/upgrade from
Brighthouse, but that always takes a few days to get here and an
entire day of waiting around, but in the mean time, I would love to be
seeing a better picture resolution. Is it in the type of cables I'm
using, is it this particular TV (though in the specs it lists all
resolution except 1080p as far as capability). Am I hooking something
up wrong? Why does it not automatically choose a cable type? And what
does STD IRC and HRC stand for?
WHEW!!!!
Thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me!!


The set up you are attempting is if you are not using a cable box.
You say the connections are correct. Are you using component or
hdmi cables? They are the only way to get hd from the box, (when you
get the hd box.) If you are using components, then you must also use
cables for the audio, since component carries video only. Also, you
can't go from the cable box to the vcr to the tv and still have hd.
When you get the hd box, then you will see a huge difference in the
picture. IRC and HRC are different types of cable signals. They make
no difference to the consumer. Depending on how sophisticated the remotes
are, you may be able to use one, but you may need to use the tv remote.

Chip

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Bert Hyman February 15th 07 04:37 PM

first time HDTVer question
 
(pistor) wrote in
ups.com:

On Feb 15, 9:22 am, wrote:
Thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me!!


To get an HD signal you will need component or HDMI cables going
directly from your HD-capable cable box to the HDTV.


His TV supposedly has a QAM-capable tuner, so he could simply connect
the cable directly to the TV, bypassing the cable box, and if there
are any un-scrambled HD signals on the wire, he could see them.

And, "HRC" means "harmonically related carrier", while "IRC" means
"incrementally related carrier", two different cable TV channel
assignement schemes, meant to reduce the chance of interference from
over-the-air TV broadcasts.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN |


[email protected] February 15th 07 05:32 PM

first time HDTVer question
 
On Feb 15, 10:37 am, Bert Hyman wrote:
(pistor) wrote roups.com:



His TV supposedly has a QAM-capable tuner, so he could simply connect
the cable directly to the TV, bypassing the cable box, and if there
are any un-scrambled HD signals on the wire, he could see them.



If I were to run the coax cable from the wall to the tv:
a)would I lose some of my channels like MTV, Comedy Central, G4
etc, or is the digital cable box required to access them
b)would that automatically detect the cable band during the
initial set up (language, time zone etc)
c)would this advance the resolution (?) to a 720p or is that
something that is simply not reachable with out a HD cable box
and better cables (other than the standard coax)

THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!!


[email protected] February 15th 07 06:21 PM

first time HDTVer question
 
wrote:
On Feb 15, 10:37 am, Bert Hyman wrote:
(pistor) wrote
roups.com:



His TV supposedly has a QAM-capable tuner, so he could simply connect
the cable directly to the TV, bypassing the cable box, and if there
are any un-scrambled HD signals on the wire, he could see them.


If I were to run the coax cable from the wall to the tv:
a)would I lose some of my channels like MTV, Comedy Central, G4
etc, or is the digital cable box required to access them
b)would that automatically detect the cable band during the
initial set up (language, time zone etc)
c)would this advance the resolution (?) to a 720p or is that
something that is simply not reachable with out a HD cable box
and better cables (other than the standard coax)

THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!!



You would get all of the analog channels and if your tv has a qam tuner,
all of the unscrambled digital ones. They would likely be the local
hd channels. You may get a few others, but not many. As far as which ones,
that depends on the local cable company. Hook it up and find out!
Without the cable box, the only channels that would be 720p are the local
hd ABC and FOX stations, and ESPN hd if it is unscrambled, which is unlikely.

Chip

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Mikepier February 15th 07 06:24 PM

first time HDTVer question
 
If I were to run the coax cable from the wall to the tv:
a)would I lose some of my channels like MTV, Comedy Central, G4
etc, or is the digital cable box required to access them


Yes, you could get the local networks in HD like CBS,NBC, ABC, FOX
( cable companies are required by law to carry these HD channels
without the cable box) but you still need the box to get MTV, ESPN,
etc.

b)would that automatically detect the cable band during the
initial set up (language, time zone etc)


During the initial setup, it should detect it automatically. If you
don't feel like setting it up, try entering the channel manually on
your remote and see if you get the channel. the HD channel is usually
a sub channel. For example, in NY Channel 2 is CBS. To get the HD
subchannel I enter 2.1. Same for NBC channel 4. I enter 4.1.


c)would this advance the resolution (?) to a 720p or is that
something that is simply not reachable with out a HD cable box
and better cables (other than the standard coax)


As others have stated, you can only get HD 2 ways:

1) Using a cable box with component or HDMI cables
2) Using the coax plugged directly in your TV and tuning in to the big
networks HD subchannels.( Of course you can get
more HD channels if you used the box)


[email protected] February 15th 07 06:27 PM

first time HDTVer question
 
"Mikepier" wrote:
If I were to run the coax cable from the wall to the tv:
a)would I lose some of my channels like MTV, Comedy Central, G4
etc, or is the digital cable box required to access them


Yes, you could get the local networks in HD like CBS,NBC, ABC, FOX
( cable companies are required by law to carry these HD channels
without the cable box) but you still need the box to get MTV, ESPN,
etc.

b)would that automatically detect the cable band during the
initial set up (language, time zone etc)


During the initial setup, it should detect it automatically. If you
don't feel like setting it up, try entering the channel manually on
your remote and see if you get the channel. the HD channel is usually
a sub channel. For example, in NY Channel 2 is CBS. To get the HD
subchannel I enter 2.1. Same for NBC channel 4. I enter 4.1.

c)would this advance the resolution (?) to a 720p or is that
something that is simply not reachable with out a HD cable box
and better cables (other than the standard coax)


As others have stated, you can only get HD 2 ways:

1) Using a cable box with component or HDMI cables
2) Using the coax plugged directly in your TV and tuning in to the big
networks HD subchannels.( Of course you can get
more HD channels if you used the box)


Also, make sure you are using the correct input. Some tv's have
more than one cable type input, one for qam and one for ota.

Chip

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Sky February 15th 07 06:43 PM

first time HDTVer question
 
On 15 Feb 2007 17:27:57 GMT, wrote:


Also, make sure you are using the correct input. Some tv's have
more than one cable type input, one for qam and one for ota.


My Sanyo HD set is like that. One coax for analog and another for
digital TV.

Wes Newell February 15th 07 07:59 PM

first time HDTVer question
 
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:22:58 -0800, gutmuncher13 wrote:

Thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me!!


Tyr reading the manual for different type setups. You want HD now?
Assuming you have a regular antenna (not cable), hook it up direct to the
TV and then do a channels scan.

Assuming you have a regular cable box, a vcr, and an HDTV you might want
to do this. Split the cable going into the cable box and take one side to
your cable ready TV. That should get you all your un-encrypted cable
channels on your TV. If you have a cable ready vcr, you might want to use
a 3 way splitter and hook it up too (I would). Now, from the cable box use
A/V outputs to both the TV and to the VCR. that will let you watch/record
the encrypted channels from the cable box. Now if you want the free OTA
digital TV, hook the antenna direct to the TV where the manual says to
connect it (RF F type connector). that should get you all your cable
channels, and all the free OTA channels on your TV and allow you to record
everything from the cable box to your vcr. Once you get an HD cable box,
you need to disconnect the cable to the TV and VCR and use the outputs of
the cable box. Connect A/V from the HD cable box to the vcr and connect
componet, HDMI, or DVI from the HD cable box to the TV. You will have to
control channel selection from the HD cable box at this point. Your VCR
will record all shows in 480i regardless of their original format.

Or you could just discontinue all your cable service and use free OTA HDTV
if you are in or within 60-80 miles of a metro area.

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