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Paul Heslop February 14th 07 04:14 PM

we're not all deaf
 
Vaughan wrote:


I hate those plasticine creatures, and using them within a programme is
unbelievably crass. One of my favourite BBC3 programmes is 'Pulling' and
they always seem to pop up at the worst possible moment, when something
moving or touching is happening in the story. It completely destroys the
moment.

Does anyone know which is the best email address to complain to? I certainly
want to let them know that this is not acceptable. I'm sure the programme
makers are angry too, it's such an insult to them and their actors.


Sorry Vaughan, I don't, but if you do find one let me know. I know it
was just a cartoon but that thing might aswell have jumped up and
yelled "LOOK at me!!!"

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Paul (Need a lift she said much obliged)
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Paul Heslop February 14th 07 10:09 PM

we're not all deaf
 
Edster wrote:

"Vaughan" wrote in message

Paul Heslop wrote:
Edster wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote in message

Dave wrote:

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:13:43 GMT, (Zero
Tolerance) wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:23:16 GMT, Paul Heslop
wrote:

They also stated that
deaf viewers prefer sign language to subtitles.

But why would anyone believe anything written in the letters page
of the Sky magazine?

some people probably do, but that's kind of my point. They just make
these statements then ignore us.

When I told Bravo that I would no longer be watching because of all
the extra screen junk they have added recently, I told them not to
bother telling me they had proof that people like to be told when
they are watching a comedy, scifi or cowboy programme. They didn't
reply at all.

yep, they really don't seem to care. Was watching BBC3 with my son
late last night (Family Guy) and those little plasticine critters are
now being used during the program to appear at the lower section of
the screen and hold a large sign with whatever is coming next written
on it. Possibly the worst over use of an onscreen object I've seen for
a while.


I hate those plasticine creatures, and using them within a programme is
unbelievably crass. One of my favourite BBC3 programmes is 'Pulling' and
they always seem to pop up at the worst possible moment, when something
moving or touching is happening in the story. It completely destroys the
moment.

Does anyone know which is the best email address to complain to? I certainly
want to let them know that this is not acceptable. I'm sure the programme
makers are angry too, it's such an insult to them and their actors.


There's probably a clause in their contract that says the BBC reserves
the right to render their work unwatchable.


:O) sometimes they do that BEFORE adding stuff on top of it.

--
Paul (Need a lift she said much obliged)
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Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

Mel February 16th 07 07:52 PM

we're not all deaf
 

"Michael" wrote in message
k...
iz0nlee wrote:
Not that I don't have sympathy for the deaf, but surely in this day and
age the hand signing guys and gals could be switchable from our remote.
An earlier thread complained of obtrusive advertising, how more annoying
is that little bloke standing in front of half the screen making hand
signals and grimacing at me on more and more channels. could it not be
on a separate layer so we hearing people can switch it off. The whole
world seems to revolve around minorities.


What a moronic thing to say - surely if the whole world revolved around
minorities then ALL programmes would have signing and subtitling. Idiot.


There's nothing idiotic in his comments,

He merely states what we all know, Minority Rules, accept it.

Mel.



Michael February 16th 07 08:41 PM

we're not all deaf
 
Mel wrote:
"Michael" wrote in message
k...
iz0nlee wrote:
Not that I don't have sympathy for the deaf, but surely in this day and
age the hand signing guys and gals could be switchable from our remote.
An earlier thread complained of obtrusive advertising, how more annoying
is that little bloke standing in front of half the screen making hand
signals and grimacing at me on more and more channels. could it not be
on a separate layer so we hearing people can switch it off. The whole
world seems to revolve around minorities.

What a moronic thing to say - surely if the whole world revolved around
minorities then ALL programmes would have signing and subtitling. Idiot.


There's nothing idiotic in his comments,

He merely states what we all know, Minority Rules, accept it.

Mel.


And I will repeat once again, that if minority ruled then all programmes
would be signed, and we would have to record late night versions of the
few audio-produced programmes.
Just because one thing inconveniences the easy life of the average white
middle-class protestant doesn't imply anything about minority rules.


Barry February 21st 07 01:13 PM

we're not all deaf
 
Its political correctness gone mad......its bloody obtrusive I cant watch a
programme with a signer doing their stuff
It puts me off. Surely it must be possible to switch it on/off ?
But what next?
Meat blanked out in cooking programmes for the vegetarians ?
Cars replaced by bicycles in all BBC productions
Smelly vision for those who cant see?

and as for homosexuality.....well under labour thats going to be compulsory
soon,
after they have bought road charging in!!!


Barry




Zero Tolerance February 21st 07 02:14 PM

we're not all deaf
 
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:13:18 -0000, "Barry"
wrote:

Its political correctness gone mad......its bloody obtrusive I cant watch a
programme with a signer doing their stuff


Perhaps you could tune in to the other 99% of programmes which don't
have signing, then?
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Roger Wilmut February 22nd 07 10:42 AM

we're not all deaf
 
In article , Barry
wrote:

Its political correctness gone mad......its bloody obtrusive I cant watch a
programme with a signer doing their stuff
It puts me off. Surely it must be possible to switch it on/off ?
But what next?
Meat blanked out in cooking programmes for the vegetarians ?
Cars replaced by bicycles in all BBC productions
Smelly vision for those who cant see?

and as for homosexuality.....well under labour thats going to be compulsory
soon,
after they have bought road charging in!!!


Barry


I don't think one could reasonably object to selected programmes being
signed: but I would like to see really clear labelling in Radio Times
and EPGs, not the miniscule note (when they bother) so that one doesn't
- as I have, several times - settle down to a recording of a film I
wanted to see only to have to abandon it because of the signing.

George February 25th 07 11:36 PM

we're not all deaf
 
Roger Wilmut wrote:

I don't think one could reasonably object to selected programmes being
signed: but I would like to see really clear labelling in Radio Times
and EPGs, not the miniscule note (when they bother) so that one doesn't
- as I have, several times - settle down to a recording of a film I
wanted to see only to have to abandon it because of the signing.


....just watched Triple X, Sky+'d from Movies last week. It had a wee
man in the bottom right hand corner (actually not, 'cos of widescreen
format) who was signing the dialogue. Initially was a bit annoyed, but
actually was able to ignore him for most of the time - the action was
usually centre-screen.

Having said that, I agree with Roger - signing should be clearly
labelled with signed and unsigned versions going out either
simultaneously, or thereabouts - how about a red button option?

Having had Sky+ for a few weeks now (got it free including instal for
introducing a friend before Christmas) I am pleased to notice that the
red button is not recorded thus reducing a little of the on-screen
garbage that we all love to hate.

George


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