Sky to launch new service on digital terrestrial television
 

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:30:06 -0000, "Gaz" wrote:

ITVDigital have only themselves to blame for putting so much faith in a
system so insecure. Why hasnt sky been hacked yet???

Sky was hacked, very extensively, back in the analogue days - but
presumably all that pain contributed to their learning of how to make
a more secure system for digital.

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Sky to launch new service on digital terrestrial television
 

Zero Tolerance wrote:
: Sky was hacked, very extensively, back in the analogue days - but
: presumably all that pain contributed to their learning of how to make
: a more secure system for digital.

I was there!! AFAIR it would be more accurate to say that Sky were hacked
occasionally for short periods of time....and ALWAYS responded with
aggressive ECMs (Electonic Counter Measures) against the hacks - I cannot
recall any hack working for more than a few weeks.. They were also prepared
to take the financial hit of issuing new cards when required.

This was unlike OnDigital who *STARTED* with a hacked encryption system
(SECA) and then seemed to have both no influence in getting it fixed
and no money or expertise to defend against any hacks.

Sky to launch new service on digital terrestrial television
 

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:47:22 +0000 (UTC), Brian McIlwrath
wrote:

Zero Tolerance wrote:
: Sky was hacked, very extensively, back in the analogue days - but
: presumably all that pain contributed to their learning of how to make
: a more secure system for digital.

I was there!! AFAIR it would be more accurate to say that Sky were hacked
occasionally for short periods of time....and ALWAYS responded with
aggressive ECMs (Electonic Counter Measures) against the hacks - I cannot
recall any hack working for more than a few weeks.

Auto-updating cards were around and only binned when a new card was
issued. From memory Issue 7 and 8 were the the good ones! ;-) Not to
mention season interfaces!

Sky to launch new service on digital terrestrial television
 

guv wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:30:06 -0000, "Gaz" wrote:

The Wizard wrote:
"amstereofan" wrote in message
ps.com...
Hang on Mpeg4 well that means HD capabilities if they don't use HD
then it will be a flop, liker ITV digital all over again

Could be a little scam brewing by sky?

Get a good DTT base going,Sell it for millions then Sky release the hack
to
the viewing card on some Israli website like they did to ITV D and buy
it
back again when it's almost broke for pence!

Nice thinking Murdy but I'm way ahead of you :-))

ITVDigital have only themselves to blame for putting so much faith in a
system so insecure. Why hasnt sky been hacked yet??? (clue. Sky know how
to
make money, and werent some flabby monopolist tv provider, who had had a
license to print money for nearly thirty years... ITV wouldnt have known
a
business transaction if it bit them on the arse)

Sky HAD been hacked, but they upped the encryption. The financial
strain of the rediculous footbfall deal they signed is what killed
them. If it wasnt for that, Im sure they would have created a more
secure system like freeview currently has. (Albeit hacked for Setana)

The fact remains, that nobody has been able to steal service from sky
digital, via forging a smart card or a box. At the moment, some boxes out
there are able to decrypt the signal without using authorised hardware, but
it still needs a paired, original smart card with a subscription. Since no
theft of service is happening, it seems sky are not to fussed, and are not
aggresively making such systems unusable.

Maybe the Government should have outsourced the new id cards to Sky....

Gaz