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Simon Finnigan February 3rd 07 10:25 PM

Another channel to avoid
 
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Sky Two has started putting permanent adverts on screen during
programmes. A pity really, because until recently they were pretty
clean so I had taken to waiting for everything from Sky One to be
repeated on Sky Two so that they could be watched in peace.

Is there a list of channels that don't do this?


Am I missing something? I never watch the TV live, always recorded through
Sky+, and i`ve not noticed any adverts onscreen. What do the adverts look
like?

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Mike_C February 3rd 07 10:40 PM

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Sky Two has started putting permanent adverts on screen during
programmes. A pity really, because until recently they were pretty
clean so I had taken to waiting for everything from Sky One to be
repeated on Sky Two so that they could be watched in peace.

Is there a list of channels that don't do this?


Am I missing something? I never watch the TV live, always recorded through Sky+, and i`ve not noticed any adverts
onscreen. What do the adverts look like?

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A lot of channels using onscreen text to promote upcoming shows or episodes.
SKY1 has been known to do this and it seems to becoming the norm on SKY2.
E4 do this a lot as well as many of the documentary channels and truth be told it is
not an uncommon method of promoting in-house content.
The next step is actually graphics including animations that pop up at random intervals
this is done all the time on the scifi channel.

It is possible not to have seen them but since they are hard encoded into the
broadcast watching live or via SKY+/TVDrive makes no difference.


Mike C



Simon Finnigan February 3rd 07 11:46 PM

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Sky Two has started putting permanent adverts on screen during
programmes. A pity really, because until recently they were pretty
clean so I had taken to waiting for everything from Sky One to be
repeated on Sky Two so that they could be watched in peace.

Is there a list of channels that don't do this?


Am I missing something? I never watch the TV live, always recorded
through
Sky+, and i`ve not noticed any adverts onscreen. What do the adverts look
like?


2 lines of white text across the top of the screen.


Never noticed it :-) I`m sure it`s there, but i`ve just watched some more
TV and didn`t see it, despite thinking to myself to keep an eye out for it.
Not to worry, I`ll survive without seeing it :-)

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Mike_C February 4th 07 03:00 AM

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Sky Two has started putting permanent adverts on screen during
programmes. A pity really, because until recently they were pretty
clean so I had taken to waiting for everything from Sky One to be
repeated on Sky Two so that they could be watched in peace.

Is there a list of channels that don't do this?

Am I missing something? I never watch the TV live, always recorded through
Sky+, and i`ve not noticed any adverts onscreen. What do the adverts look
like?


2 lines of white text across the top of the screen.


Never noticed it :-) I`m sure it`s there, but i`ve just watched some more TV and didn`t see it, despite thinking to
myself to keep an eye out for it. Not to worry, I`ll survive without seeing it :-)

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Here ya go....

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/5918/examplebi8.jpg


As luck would have it there was a distinct lack of onscreen text tonight:)


Mike C



The Wizard February 4th 07 03:47 AM

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Sky Two has started putting permanent adverts on screen during
programmes. A pity really, because until recently they were pretty
clean so I had taken to waiting for everything from Sky One to be
repeated on Sky Two so that they could be watched in peace.

Is there a list of channels that don't do this?

Am I missing something? I never watch the TV live, always recorded
through
Sky+, and i`ve not noticed any adverts onscreen. What do the adverts
look
like?

2 lines of white text across the top of the screen.


Never noticed it :-) I`m sure it`s there, but i`ve just watched some
more TV and didn`t see it, despite thinking to myself to keep an eye out
for it. Not to worry, I`ll survive without seeing it :-)

--



Here ya go....

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/5918/examplebi8.jpg


As luck would have it there was a distinct lack of onscreen text tonight:)


I sometimes imagine how many people would say "yes" to a version of the most
popular channels going FTA on the understanding they put advertising
onscreen throughout the program?

Even the people who say they ignore it or it does'nt bother them would have
problems seeing about a square inch of program on the screen!



Simon Finnigan February 4th 07 11:06 AM

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Sky Two has started putting permanent adverts on screen during
programmes. A pity really, because until recently they were pretty
clean so I had taken to waiting for everything from Sky One to be
repeated on Sky Two so that they could be watched in peace.

Is there a list of channels that don't do this?

Am I missing something? I never watch the TV live, always recorded
through
Sky+, and i`ve not noticed any adverts onscreen. What do the adverts
look
like?

2 lines of white text across the top of the screen.


Never noticed it :-) I`m sure it`s there, but i`ve just watched some
more TV and didn`t see it, despite thinking to myself to keep an eye out
for it. Not to worry, I`ll survive without seeing it :-)

--



Here ya go....

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/5918/examplebi8.jpg


As luck would have it there was a distinct lack of onscreen text tonight:)



Ah yes, I see what you mean. I just don`t notice it when i`m watching TV
though. It`s not that i`m making an effort to ignore it, I just don`t see
it at all!

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Tumbleweed February 4th 07 10:21 PM

Another channel to avoid
 

"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message
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Ah yes, I see what you mean. I just don`t notice it when i`m watching TV
though. It`s not that i`m making an effort to ignore it, I just don`t see
it at all!


you will do now :-)

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The Wizard February 4th 07 10:59 PM

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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
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"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message
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Ah yes, I see what you mean. I just don`t notice it when i`m watching TV
though. It`s not that i`m making an effort to ignore it, I just don`t
see it at all!


you will do now :-)


You lousy bugger reminding him ;-)



Simon Finnigan February 5th 07 01:53 PM

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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
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"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message
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Ah yes, I see what you mean. I just don`t notice it when i`m watching TV
though. It`s not that i`m making an effort to ignore it, I just don`t
see it at all!


you will do now :-)



Nope, they still just don`t register with me. They are visible if I make
the effort to notice them, so it`s not them being invisible. My fiance has
never commented on them either. I watch the programmes properly, it`s not
just noise in the background, I just completely fail to register that there
is text on the screen!

Does anyone else have the same thing happen with them, or is it just me?

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ThePunisher February 5th 07 06:27 PM

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"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message
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Ah yes, I see what you mean. I just don`t notice it when i`m
watching TV though. It`s not that i`m making an effort to ignore
it, I just don`t see it at all!


you will do now :-)



Nope, they still just don`t register with me. They are visible if I
make the effort to notice them, so it`s not them being invisible. My
fiance has never commented on them either. I watch the programmes
properly, it`s not just noise in the background, I just completely
fail to register that there is text on the screen!

Does anyone else have the same thing happen with them, or is it just
me?


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Heracles Pollux February 5th 07 06:53 PM

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"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message
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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
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"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message
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Ah yes, I see what you mean. I just don`t notice it when i`m watching
TV though. It`s not that i`m making an effort to ignore it, I just
don`t see it at all!


you will do now :-)



Nope, they still just don`t register with me. They are visible if I make
the effort to notice them, so it`s not them being invisible. My fiance
has never commented on them either. I watch the programmes properly, it`s
not just noise in the background, I just completely fail to register that
there is text on the screen!

Does anyone else have the same thing happen with them, or is it just me?

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Anecdotally, I have often heard it said by some people that they do not
notice or perceive on-screen logos.

I unfortunately am hyper-sensitive to these messages and have to rigidly
filter my viewing against such graffiti.

The TV industry has so far failed to publish any kind of psychological or
perception studies on how DOGs work and to what extent they impact people.


There are two possibilities:

A - The industry knows what DOGs do and how they effect peoples minds and
does so deliberately.

B - The industry does not know what DOGs do and does not know how they
effect peoples minds and does so naively or negligently.



Personally I think it is B which is why logofreetv.org can't flush any one
out in to the open to talk publicly about this.

You'd think in an age of science, we could scientifically and absolutely
state what the affect of on-screen logos on the public specifically would
be?






Krustov February 5th 07 10:44 PM

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uk.media.tv.sky
Heracles Pollux
Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:53:33 -0000


Anecdotally, I have often heard it said by some people that they do not
notice or perceive on-screen logos.


Small and almost transparent tasteful dogs do soon blend into the
background for most people .

Its the in your face ram it down your throat dogs that are the problem .

Since 24 finished on sky three a couple of weeks ago i havent watched
sky three since as any time i've been flicking through the channels
there always seems to be some sort of promo plug text logo at the top
right hand corner of the screen - wouldnt mind so much if it was for a
program that seemed interesting - but it always seems to be for some
****e program most people go out their way to avoid .

Another thing sky three does is stuff like 'non stop cold case' and
thats just as bad as a text promo plug for a ****e program .

While i like cold case - i regard being told theres several episodes
being shown back to back as insult and in general refuse point blank to
watch anything that has a text promo plug at the top right hand corner
on principal even if its a show like cold case .


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Dom Robinson February 5th 07 10:58 PM

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"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message
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"Edster" wrote in message
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"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message

"Edster" wrote in message
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Sky Two has started putting permanent adverts on screen during
programmes. A pity really, because until recently they were pretty
clean so I had taken to waiting for everything from Sky One to be
repeated on Sky Two so that they could be watched in peace.

Is there a list of channels that don't do this?

Am I missing something? I never watch the TV live, always recorded
through
Sky+, and i`ve not noticed any adverts onscreen. What do the adverts
look
like?

2 lines of white text across the top of the screen.

Never noticed it :-) I`m sure it`s there, but i`ve just watched some
more TV and didn`t see it, despite thinking to myself to keep an eye out
for it. Not to worry, I`ll survive without seeing it :-)

--



Here ya go....

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/5918/examplebi8.jpg


As luck would have it there was a distinct lack of onscreen text tonight:)



Ah yes, I see what you mean. I just don`t notice it when i`m watching TV
though. It`s not that i`m making an effort to ignore it, I just don`t see
it at all!

**** me, I hope you don't drive. Those little signs at the side of the road,
or someone walking across while you're driving. You might just not see it at
all!
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Simon Finnigan February 6th 07 12:02 AM

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"Edster" wrote in message
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Sky Two has started putting permanent adverts on screen during
programmes. A pity really, because until recently they were pretty
clean so I had taken to waiting for everything from Sky One to be
repeated on Sky Two so that they could be watched in peace.

Is there a list of channels that don't do this?

Am I missing something? I never watch the TV live, always recorded
through
Sky+, and i`ve not noticed any adverts onscreen. What do the adverts
look
like?

2 lines of white text across the top of the screen.

Never noticed it :-) I`m sure it`s there, but i`ve just watched some
more TV and didn`t see it, despite thinking to myself to keep an eye
out
for it. Not to worry, I`ll survive without seeing it :-)

--


Here ya go....

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/5918/examplebi8.jpg


As luck would have it there was a distinct lack of onscreen text
tonight:)



Ah yes, I see what you mean. I just don`t notice it when i`m watching TV
though. It`s not that i`m making an effort to ignore it, I just don`t
see
it at all!

**** me, I hope you don't drive. Those little signs at the side of the
road,
or someone walking across while you're driving. You might just not see it
at
all!



I see perfectly well, and drive very well thank you very much, certainly
above the standard required for my job, and my observations where commented
on favourably by the police driving instructor who took me for a week long
course before starting work. The onscreen displays are just something that
doesn`t register with me for whatever reason - there are other people like
me out there. When I`m watching TV I`m relaxing and enjoying myself, so
presumably any little details that aren`t needed aren`t registering. When
I`m driving, or indeed doing anything else that requires more concentration
and observation there isn`t a problem.

I`m sure there are studies out there about this - anyone know of some?


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Simon Finnigan February 6th 07 07:57 PM

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Ah yes, I see what you mean. I just don`t notice it when i`m watching
TV
though. It`s not that i`m making an effort to ignore it, I just don`t
see it at all!


you will do now :-)



Nope, they still just don`t register with me. They are visible if I make
the effort to notice them, so it`s not them being invisible. My fiance
has
never commented on them either. I watch the programmes properly, it`s not
just noise in the background, I just completely fail to register that
there
is text on the screen!

Does anyone else have the same thing happen with them, or is it just me?


Do you notice the wavy arm people they sometimes put in the corner of
the screen for blind viewers?


Only when i`m deciding if it`s an attractive woman. If yes then I notice
them, if not then it just phases out :-)

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Simon Finnigan February 6th 07 07:59 PM

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Sky Two has started putting permanent adverts on screen during
programmes. A pity really, because until recently they were
pretty
clean so I had taken to waiting for everything from Sky One to be
repeated on Sky Two so that they could be watched in peace.

Is there a list of channels that don't do this?

Am I missing something? I never watch the TV live, always recorded
through
Sky+, and i`ve not noticed any adverts onscreen. What do the
adverts
look
like?

2 lines of white text across the top of the screen.

Never noticed it :-) I`m sure it`s there, but i`ve just watched
some
more TV and didn`t see it, despite thinking to myself to keep an eye
out
for it. Not to worry, I`ll survive without seeing it :-)

--


Here ya go....

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/5918/examplebi8.jpg


As luck would have it there was a distinct lack of onscreen text
tonight:)


Ah yes, I see what you mean. I just don`t notice it when i`m watching
TV
though. It`s not that i`m making an effort to ignore it, I just don`t
see
it at all!

**** me, I hope you don't drive. Those little signs at the side of the
road,
or someone walking across while you're driving. You might just not see
it
at
all!



I see perfectly well, and drive very well thank you very much, certainly
above the standard required for my job, and my observations where
commented
on favourably by the police driving instructor who took me for a week long
course before starting work. The onscreen displays are just something
that
doesn`t register with me for whatever reason - there are other people like
me out there. When I`m watching TV I`m relaxing and enjoying myself, so
presumably any little details that aren`t needed aren`t registering. When
I`m driving, or indeed doing anything else that requires more
concentration
and observation there isn`t a problem.

I`m sure there are studies out there about this - anyone know of some?


So you're one of the people who doesn't concentrate on the TV while
you are "watching" it. I already discounted people like you.


Can you please point out where I said I didn`t concentrate on the TV? I
state that when i`m doing something requiring more concentration (like
driving) then it`s different.

Out of interest, exactly what is your problem with people not noticing
on-screen adverts etc?

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Simon Finnigan February 7th 07 10:35 AM

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"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message
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"Edster" wrote in message
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"Simon Finnigan" wrote in message

"Edster" wrote in message
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Sky Two has started putting permanent adverts on screen during
programmes. A pity really, because until recently they were
pretty
clean so I had taken to waiting for everything from Sky One to
be
repeated on Sky Two so that they could be watched in peace.

Is there a list of channels that don't do this?

Am I missing something? I never watch the TV live, always
recorded
through
Sky+, and i`ve not noticed any adverts onscreen. What do the
adverts
look
like?

2 lines of white text across the top of the screen.

Never noticed it :-) I`m sure it`s there, but i`ve just watched
some
more TV and didn`t see it, despite thinking to myself to keep an
eye
out
for it. Not to worry, I`ll survive without seeing it :-)

--


Here ya go....

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/5918/examplebi8.jpg


As luck would have it there was a distinct lack of onscreen text
tonight:)


Ah yes, I see what you mean. I just don`t notice it when i`m
watching
TV
though. It`s not that i`m making an effort to ignore it, I just
don`t
see
it at all!

**** me, I hope you don't drive. Those little signs at the side of the
road,
or someone walking across while you're driving. You might just not see
it
at
all!


I see perfectly well, and drive very well thank you very much, certainly
above the standard required for my job, and my observations where
commented
on favourably by the police driving instructor who took me for a week
long
course before starting work. The onscreen displays are just something
that
doesn`t register with me for whatever reason - there are other people
like
me out there. When I`m watching TV I`m relaxing and enjoying myself, so
presumably any little details that aren`t needed aren`t registering.
When
I`m driving, or indeed doing anything else that requires more
concentration
and observation there isn`t a problem.

I`m sure there are studies out there about this - anyone know of some?

So you're one of the people who doesn't concentrate on the TV while
you are "watching" it. I already discounted people like you.


Can you please point out where I said I didn`t concentrate on the TV? I
state that when i`m doing something requiring more concentration (like
driving) then it`s different.

Out of interest, exactly what is your problem with people not noticing
on-screen adverts etc?


Because it's not possible. When someone speaks it's natural to look at
the face of the person speaking. The on-screen adverts and branding
material often obscures parts of people's faces while they are
talking, so there would be no way not to see them if you were actually
watching TV at the time rather than just having it on in the
background while you do something else.


So your entire evidence for your position is something that you think.
Presumably you`ve got a PhD in a relevant subject, or at least a masters
degree - yes? Or maybe you can cite a number of peer reviewed papers that
support your position? Or perhaps it`s just the case that you see them
clearly, and refuse to accept that anyone else could possibly not be
distracted by them?

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