US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turned off, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 

"Blue Cat" wrote in message
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The prime example of this public apathy is the lack of demand for ATSC set
top boxes that will receive the ATSC signals for legacy TVs.

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There is no lack of demand - there is a lack of supply!

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turned off, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 

"Al Schmidt" wrote in message
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The prime example of this public apathy is the lack of demand for ATSC
set
top boxes that will receive the ATSC signals for legacy TVs.


Are there any low cost, under $50, STB's? I would but a couple right now
if available.

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Me too!
I have been watching - but nothing........

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"Blue Cat" wrote in message
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"Max Power" wrote in message

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I believe that most TV broadcasters want to scuttle the turnover to ATSC.
Right now, most stations have digital broadcasts only because of the FCC
mandate. They are probably hoping that if enough of the public ignore the
cutoff, and the date (Feb. 2009) approaches, they can use the ensuing
outcry
over lost TV to delay the turnover.

The prime example of this public apathy is the lack of demand for ATSC set
top boxes that will receive the ATSC signals for legacy TVs.

I am disappointed that a promising STB entry, the Samsung DTB-H260F does
*not* put the on-screen graphics on the 480I output. I would already have
at least one of them -- except for that flaw. I want to eventually put OTA
DTV on all my sets, but I'm not off to a good start. (I have only one done
so far and it's an old STB, not one with 5G chips.

"Sal"

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turned off, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 

"Richard C." wrote in message
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"Max Power" wrote in message
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US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turned off, you
would think that US TV stations would run a daily counter ... as a
public
reminder.

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A reminder?!?
Hell, most people don't even know it is going to happen.
They need to be informed before being reminded.
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True.

I was in my local drug store and happened to see the manager near their
display of small TV sets. I asked if the headquarters people had said
anything about the soon-to-be-obsolete TV's that were for sale. I had to
explain to her about the transition (and I think she was disbelieving the
whole idea).

I asked how they would handle irate customers whose TV's would suddenly quit
working. She said, "Well, if they still have their receipts, we'll give
them their money back."

Yeah, right.

Related: How many motor homes, RV's, camping trailers are in use in North
America? How many of these are being used in places where they have no
cable TV hookup? (Yes, TV isn't part of the RV experience to all RV'ers,
but I think most expect to do some TV watching.) Just wondering. They
can't all have satellite.

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turned off, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 

In article , "Sal M. Onella" wrote:

"Blue Cat" wrote in message
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"Max Power" wrote in message

snip

I believe that most TV broadcasters want to scuttle the turnover to ATSC.
Right now, most stations have digital broadcasts only because of the FCC
mandate. They are probably hoping that if enough of the public ignore the
cutoff, and the date (Feb. 2009) approaches, they can use the ensuing
outcry
over lost TV to delay the turnover.

The prime example of this public apathy is the lack of demand for ATSC set
top boxes that will receive the ATSC signals for legacy TVs.

I am disappointed that a promising STB entry, the Samsung DTB-H260F does
*not* put the on-screen graphics on the 480I output. I would already have
at least one of them -- except for that flaw. I want to eventually put OTA
DTV on all my sets, but I'm not off to a good start. (I have only one done
so far and it's an old STB, not one with 5G chips.

"Sal"


That box was primary meant to be used to add tuner capabilty to a tunerless
HDTV monitor.The 480i output on that unit was solely for recording purposes
only.

Its not the type you guys are discussing , the $50 converters for those of us
who want to add ATSC to our standard NTSC sets

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turnedoff, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Sal M. Onella wrote:
Related: How many motor homes, RV's, camping trailers are in use in North
America? How many of these are being used in places where they have no
cable TV hookup? (Yes, TV isn't part of the RV experience to all RV'ers,
but I think most expect to do some TV watching.) Just wondering. They
can't all have satellite.

Most RV camping is done in areas where local OTA analog TV either does not
exist or is extremely limited.

Most RV campgrounds have campground cable TV; and those that don't are
typically in remote areas where there isn't much (if any) local OTA analog
TV. Even in remote areas, the upper-tier campgrounds have cable.

Most RVers have satellite. Newer RVs are sold with satellite dishes on
the roof instead of TV antennas. At a campground, you see far more
satellite dishes than raised OTA TV antennas.

Bottom line: the number of RVers who depend upon OTA analog TV are a small
(and shrinking) minority.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turnedoff, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 

In article , Mark Crispin wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Sal M. Onella wrote:
Related: How many motor homes, RV's, camping trailers are in use in North
America? How many of these are being used in places where they have no
cable TV hookup? (Yes, TV isn't part of the RV experience to all RV'ers,
but I think most expect to do some TV watching.) Just wondering. They
can't all have satellite.

Most RV camping is done in areas where local OTA analog TV either does not
exist or is extremely limited.

Most RV campgrounds have campground cable TV; and those that don't are
typically in remote areas where there isn't much (if any) local OTA analog
TV. Even in remote areas, the upper-tier campgrounds have cable.


IMHO, it aint camping if you have water and CATV hookups!!!!!! Get out into
the wild For F#[email protected] Sake.

Most RVers have satellite. Newer RVs are sold with satellite dishes on
the roof instead of TV antennas. At a campground, you see far more
satellite dishes than raised OTA TV antennas.

Bottom line: the number of RVers who depend upon OTA analog TV are a small
(and shrinking) minority.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turnedoff, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Blue Cat wrote:
I believe that most TV broadcasters want to scuttle the turnover to ATSC.

You also believe in the repayment of the French War Debt, Al Gore's
inaugural ball, and the triumphant arrival of the SS Titanic in New York
Harbor?

Right now, most stations have digital broadcasts only because of the FCC
mandate.

Gee, then why are the stations in Seattle bragging about their HD local
newscasts?

They are probably hoping that if enough of the public ignore the
cutoff, and the date (Feb. 2009) approaches, they can use the ensuing outcry
over lost TV to delay the turnover.

In your dreams.

The prime example of this public apathy is the lack of demand for ATSC set
top boxes that will receive the ATSC signals for legacy TVs.

Mostly because people are buying new LCD TVs with built in ATSC tuners
rather than worry about a tuner for old, heat-generating, power-wasting,
space-consuming, toxic waste generating CRT TVs.

Nor is there much need for an ATSC tuner for a legacy TV today. The
legacy TV works fine to receive analog, and will continue to work fine
with cable or satellite. It only becomes an issue in 2009, and by that
time the products will have the advantage of two more years of engineering
progress.

The only need for an ATSC tuner today is for HD monitors which don't have
tuners; and the costs for today's ATSC tuners reflects that. In 2009,
ATSC tuners will be both cheaper and better.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turned off, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 

"Mark Crispin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Blue Cat wrote:
I believe that most TV broadcasters want to scuttle the turnover to ATSC.

You also believe in the repayment of the French War Debt, Al Gore's
inaugural ball, and the triumphant arrival of the SS Titanic in New York
Harbor?


He could be living in a Sinclair market...

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turned off, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 

"Mark Crispin" wrote in message

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The only need for an ATSC tuner today is for HD monitors which don't have
tuners; and the costs for today's ATSC tuners reflects that.

I disagree with that for my situation. In San Diego, I can get OTA DTV from
the LA market most of the time with a good roof antenna, sometimes just with
a simple bow-tie. However, there is JUST ONE station from LA carried on our
cable system, despite its being a very big, very high-quality system. I
want my legacy TV's to be able to get LA at my whim.

People in or between other city pairs are apt to be of the same mind.

The rest of your post was right on.