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Mark Crispin February 20th 07 12:47 AM

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turnedoff, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Bob Miller wrote:
But it does work in Japan. The only source of any information to the contrary
is yourself and you are an interested party. You have to show us some other
source than yourself.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1seg

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Mark Crispin February 20th 07 12:48 AM

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turnedoff, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Bob Miller wrote:
Just once could you supply anything but your own babble of BS?
Do you just make all this up as you go along or do you do any research at
all?
Any sources at all?


Interesting...Psycho Bob is talking to himself now!

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

David February 20th 07 02:41 AM

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turned off, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 
"Bob Miller" wrote

I have shown sources. You will have to discredit them with others.



This from the most discredited moron any broadcasting industry's ever known.



Bob Miller February 20th 07 05:47 AM

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turnedoff, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 
Mark Crispin wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Bob Miller wrote:
But it does work in Japan. The only source of any information to the
contrary is yourself and you are an interested party. You have to show
us some other source than yourself.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1seg

-- Mark --


Mark sites a source, Wikipedia. And an interesting one. I assume he is
directing our attention to the "Criticism" section on 1SEG.

What is interesting is that this section is "TAGGED" by Wikipedia as

"This article or section does not cite its references or sources."

Which is exactly what I was criticizing Mark for not doing, sourcing his
assertions. How long did it take to write this section Mark?

Not exactly a source other than yourself but a bit of humor.

Now here is a source which give numbers of 1SEG phones sold in Japan
since the service began. 575,000 in December alone 3,408,000 since 1SEG
started last April and I will predict that next December they will sell
3,000,000 plus in one 30 day period.

http://www.dibeg.org/news/news-5/news-e5.htm#dn067e

Not bad for something described by Mark, I mean Wikipedia, as being horrid.

BTW notice that they have now sold 17,286,000 DTV receivers in Japan
plus another 481,000 PC DTV tuners plus 3,408,000 1SEG cell phones plus
plus.

Bob Miller

David February 20th 07 03:33 PM

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turned off, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 
"Mark Crispin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Bob Miller wrote:
But it does work in Japan. The only source of any information to the
contrary is yourself and you are an interested party. You have to show us
some other source than yourself.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1seg

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.




That site led me to this 1seg user forum, in Japanese.

http://one-seg.com/modules/newbb/

What are the actual day-to-day users complaining...err...saying about it?



Mark Crispin February 21st 07 01:22 AM

US ATSC conversion: with 700 some odd days until NTSC is turnedoff, you would think that US TV stations would run a dayly counter...
 
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, David wrote:
That site led me to this 1seg user forum, in Japanese.
http://one-seg.com/modules/newbb/
What are the actual day-to-day users complaining...err...saying about it?


I glimpsed through it. There isn't much there. One fellow grumbled about
the unexpectedly small service area and the need to rescan for channels
frequently when on a train because of changing service area. Another set
of comments were about 1seg not being up in some areas yet.

Still other comments are about availability of announced 1seg phones.

There still isn't much use of 1seg in Japan yet.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.


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