Warning - Slow switching between video sources on some HDTV's
 

On Jan 21, 7:32 pm, dgates wrote:
On 21 Jan 2007 07:29:42 -0800, "Eric" wrote:



Terry Smith wrote:
Just bought a Sony Bravia HDTV. Am quite annoyed at how long and tedious
it is to switch between video sources.

If, for example, you want to go from watching OTA programs to say the Vid 6
input. You have to toggle thru all the lower videos (that your are using)
until you get to 6. Worse the process seems to hand for about a second on
each active video.

A Sony Rep confirmed that this happens on all Sony TV, that there's no work
around and he agreed it was an annoying problem.

Menu - Setup - Video Label - Program...

Then just arrow over, pick the input to change, make it "Skip"

At least, that's how it is on mine (which is an older model). It still
takes a while to switch, but mostly because the scan mode changes. My
universal remote's pre-programed buttons also have direct access keys.It sort of works for me. I can skip any particular "Video" input, but
I can't get it to skip the step where it would check for numerical
channels.

Yep. For some reason, you can't lock out the tuner.

Warning - Slow switching between video sources on some HDTV's
 

Anyone know if there are codes for Sony that could be programmed into a
universal remote.


"Charlie Hoffpauir" wrote in message
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:45:00 -0500, " Terry Smith"
wrote:

Well, it apparently doesn't happen with all other brands, or more
likely, it's just a fault of the remote. For example, I have a Samsung
DLP HDTV, and using the Samsung remote, it works just like you
describe. The only way to go from the input you are on now to the one
you were just previously using, is to toggle thru all the ones in
between. However, I recently bought a Harmony 880 remote, and after
setting it up, it will switch "directly" to the imput I want. That is,
the remote is programmed according to what component I want to view,
ie, either Tivo, HD Tivo, DVD player, or DirecTV HR20. And when I
select the component, the TV switches directly to the proper input!

Only thing is, the Harmony 880 is very expensive, and to actually get
it to work right, I had to contact customer support.... but
fortunately they seem to have very knowledgable support people.

Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Warning - Slow switching between video sources on some HDTV's
 

On my XBR2 this only works on the composite input. When it gets to the
component and hdmi input I have to wait until each comes up before I can
toggle to the next.

I'm amazed that such expensive sets have such a crude interface. What are
these designers thinking.


"bearman" wrote in message
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When I want to change video on my Sony SXRD, I just push the video select
button quickly the number of video inputs I want to change. For example, I
have six active video inputs. If I'm on Video 5 (OTA), and I want to go to
Video 4 (for HDTV), I just push the video select button five times quickly.
(The video inputs I'm not using I have set to skip.) There is a slight
pause--maybe two or three seconds--but I don't have to wait for each video
to display.

--
Bearman

"Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in
a swimming pool."

Warning - Slow switching between video sources on some HDTV's
 

In lieu of any other work-around this is what I've been doing. It's still
strange to have to do a multistep process to change video sources.

BTW: remember that when you want to go to one of the ones at the inputs a
the bottom of the list you can get there quicker by toggling UP rather then
DOWN

"dgates" wrote in message
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:45:00 -0500, " Terry Smith"
wrote:

Wen I want to change inputs, I've gotten in the habit of hitting "Menu
OK" on my remote (meaning I hit the "Menu" button, then whatever that
button in the middle of the direction arrows is called).

Rather than switch through the inputs one at a time, I hit "Menu OK"
and find myself looking at a list of the input sources. Then "Down
Down Down OK" and I'm at the new input that I want.

Warning - Slow switching between video sources on some HDTV's
 

SONY continues to sell annoyance. I purchased an HDMI-compliant 5-disk DVD
player. When zoom 2x (or 4x) is applied, the 2x (or 4x) icon appears on the
screen and stays there. 2x is very useful to open up a 2.35:1 image if you
do not mind cropping at the left/right sides. I prefer a full-height 16:9
image rather than letter-box on a 16:9 screen. SONY has no plans to fix
this annoyance per customer support in Ft.Myers, FL. And the president's
office in New Jersey could care less.

Wayne


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On Jan 21, 7:32 pm, dgates wrote:
On 21 Jan 2007 07:29:42 -0800, "Eric" wrote:



Terry Smith wrote:
Just bought a Sony Bravia HDTV. Am quite annoyed at how long and
tedious
it is to switch between video sources.

If, for example, you want to go from watching OTA programs to say the
Vid 6
input. You have to toggle thru all the lower videos (that your are
using)
until you get to 6. Worse the process seems to hand for about a
second on
each active video.

A Sony Rep confirmed that this happens on all Sony TV, that there's no
work
around and he agreed it was an annoying problem.

Menu - Setup - Video Label - Program...

Then just arrow over, pick the input to change, make it "Skip"

At least, that's how it is on mine (which is an older model). It still
takes a while to switch, but mostly because the scan mode changes. My
universal remote's pre-programed buttons also have direct access keys.It
sort of works for me. I can skip any particular "Video" input, but
I can't get it to skip the step where it would check for numerical
channels.

Yep. For some reason, you can't lock out the tuner.

Warning - Slow switching between video sources on some HDTV's
 

"WGD" wrote in message
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SONY continues to sell annoyance. I purchased an HDMI-compliant 5-disk
DVD player. When zoom 2x (or 4x) is applied, the 2x (or 4x) icon appears
on the screen and stays there. 2x is very useful to open up a 2.35:1
image if you do not mind cropping at the left/right sides. I prefer a
full-height 16:9 image rather than letter-box on a 16:9 screen. SONY has
no plans to fix this annoyance per customer support in Ft.Myers, FL. And
the president's office in New Jersey could care less.

Wayne

Maybe if you had to answer dumb questions about why the picture is cut off
on at the edges all day you would have some appreciation for on screen
graphics to identify these modes. The fact that they chose to feature it
and you do not like it should not be cause for directing disdain at Sony.
Just buy a different product if you don't like that feature.

Leonard

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Good Morning Leonard:

You may be right AND many users do ask MANY dumb questions; however, leaving
the icon on the screen, regardless of what the user wishes to do with the 2x
screen is plain poor design (in my opinion, and I could be wrong). Maybe a
change to the firmware, a deeply placed SETUP feature for those who know
what they are doing that will permit the icon to disappear in a few seconds.

I returned the player and purchased a Samsung.

As for SONY, see the the post about buying a SONY Bravia LCD. In the Bravia
series, SONY placed the HDMI connector outwards, not downward. Thus a
non-SONY bracket will not fit IF HDMI is used. So far, I have not beena
able to find right-angle HDMI adapters. Best Buy does not sell SONY
brackets. I also returned the SONY Bravia LCD.

Wayne

"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message
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"WGD" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
SONY continues to sell annoyance. I purchased an HDMI-compliant 5-disk
DVD player. When zoom 2x (or 4x) is applied, the 2x (or 4x) icon appears
on the screen and stays there. 2x is very useful to open up a 2.35:1
image if you do not mind cropping at the left/right sides. I prefer a
full-height 16:9 image rather than letter-box on a 16:9 screen. SONY has
no plans to fix this annoyance per customer support in Ft.Myers, FL.
And the president's office in New Jersey could care less.

Wayne

Maybe if you had to answer dumb questions about why the picture is cut off
on at the edges all day you would have some appreciation for on screen
graphics to identify these modes. The fact that they chose to feature it
and you do not like it should not be cause for directing disdain at Sony.
Just buy a different product if you don't like that feature.

Leonard

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Hello Peter:

This is NOT Sony's idiocy (the bracket). Yes, it is Best Buy's. The idiocy
is a not-standard way, a non-conforming way where SONY decided to point the
connector out versus the more useful direction, down. This, then, requires
one to buy a Sony bracket. That is fine. Best Buy lost out (a SONY sale)
because of a decision, someplace in their buying stream, not to carry a
complimenting Sony bracket.

Wayne G. Dengel


BTW, this reply was to a thread started out with my disappointment in Sony,
their decision not to allow the Zoom-factor icon to disappear after a few
seconds. One gentlement suggested that who really wants to put up (my
words) with customers complaining "what happened here" after they pressed
the wrong button (the dvd player zoom in this case).

Sony has all good reason not to let 2.35:1 look good. HDTV all started back
a decade+ ago, early 90s, a joint between Sony and NHK. For bandwidth
purposes, and way before LCD and plasma of course, and the weight alone of a
high AR CRT display, SONY/NHK decided to go with 16:9. This also works with
the "Golden Rectangle". Now we are stuck with it. Sony likes this 'cause
their HDTV format thread will continue. Meanwhile Hollywood continues to
properly produce films with higher ARs. While I could be wrong, 2.35:1 on a
16:9 screen is horrible. Here in the 21st century we still have black bars.
Does that really make any sense? Here is where a 2x zoom factor works very
well. Stuck with 16:9, a 2.35:1 then does away with the black bars.

NHK invested millions to foster 16:9. And they won (this battle, and maybe
the war, at least for the next few generations).

Runco did it right for the projector biz. Maybe one day, we will get away
from 16:9 and go with Hollywood's 2.35:1.

Why the 1080p? For large screens, seen closeup, maybe sometimes too close.
When motion and color resolutions are high, even 720p looks good. We are
now awed at 1080p, reverting back to Sony and NHK's original format. We are
stuck with, and will be probably for a long time, 16:9 AR devices.










"Peter H. Coffin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:45:55 GMT, WGD wrote:

I returned the player and purchased a Samsung.

As for SONY, see the the post about buying a SONY Bravia LCD. In the
Bravia series, SONY placed the HDMI connector outwards, not downward.
Thus a non-SONY bracket will not fit IF HDMI is used. So far, I have
not beena able to find right-angle HDMI adapters. Best Buy does not
sell SONY brackets. I also returned the SONY Bravia LCD.

If Best Buy sold you the Sony LCD, and didn't carry the appropriate
mounting bracket, why is this Sony's idiocy instead of Best Buy's?

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In article [email protected] "WGD" writes:

Runco did it right for the projector biz. Maybe one day, we will get away
from 16:9 and go with Hollywood's 2.35:1.

Actually, it appears that there are about twice as many movies in 1.85:1
as there are in 2.35:1 -- so it looks like 16:9 is a closer fit to more films.

( I know, don't feed the trolls... )

Alan