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Cardinal Chunder January 18th 07 05:31 PM

Sky Auto Standby and other 'innovations'
 
Fred Finisterre wrote:
"Cardinal Chunder" wrote in message
...
Sounds like a damned good idea. I wonder if EU law should mandate that
that all consumer AV devices go into standby by default if not used for
some reasonable period of time, e.g. 5 hours.


No. Because the EU should not exist.

Fred.


I think "In my opinion" would be appropriate qualifier.

--
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true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining
lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is: No."

Andy Hawkins January 18th 07 05:47 PM

Sky Auto Standby and other 'innovations'
 
Hi,

In article -aggs,
Sean wrote:
I was told that it wasn't the case with Sky+/HD boxes, as unlike TiVo, if
you put them in standby the harddisk is no used


My HD box is in standby whenever we're not actively watching it (it dual
records more reliably if you don't leave it on and tuned to a channel), but
it always manages to record stuff to the hard disk while it's in 'standby'.

Andy

JohnW January 18th 07 07:12 PM

Sky Auto Standby and other 'innovations'
 

"Cardinal Chunder" wrote in message
...
Ed wrote:
Heard today that Sky boxes will have a new feature enabled in the next
software package to make them automatically go into standby, as
apparently they use half as much electricity when in standby mode.

I wonder what other exciting stuff is lined up!!


Sounds like a damned good idea. I wonder if EU law should mandate that
that all consumer AV devices go into standby by default if not used for
some reasonable period of time, e.g. 5 hours.


The trouble with this idea is that one person's reasonable will differ from
the next person's. Some people will, quite reasonably, have their Sky boxes
piped through to their hi-fi to listen to the radio all day long - when I
worked at home I used to change the channel to a radio station at about 6am,
had my breakfast, then did a days work follwed by another couple of hours of
radio listening until I might have decided to watch some TV at about 7pm -
so.... 13 hours without the box being touched yet it was in constant (and
reasonable) use.



Calum January 18th 07 09:59 PM

Sky Auto Standby and other 'innovations'
 
Ed wrote:
Heard today that Sky boxes will have a new feature enabled in the next
software package to make them automatically go into standby, as
apparently they use half as much electricity when in standby mode.


They use even less if you unplug them.

Dom Robinson January 18th 07 10:23 PM

Sky Auto Standby and other 'innovations'
 
In article .com,
says...
Heard today that Sky boxes will have a new feature enabled in the next
software package to make them automatically go into standby, as
apparently they use half as much electricity when in standby mode.

Of course they do. And farmers are going to be charged £20 per carbon credit
every time one of their cows farts.

It's amazing what a load of old fanny the politicians can spout about the
environment when they put their mind to it.

Next stop: The Department of Health, and Patricia Hewitt advocates the use of
anal sex for teenagers to stop unwanted underage pregnancies.
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JNugent January 19th 07 01:51 AM

Sky Auto Standby and other 'innovations'
 
Cardinal Chunder wrote:

Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Cardinal Chunder" wrote:
Ed wrote:


Heard today that Sky boxes will have a new feature enabled in the next
software package to make them automatically go into standby, as
apparently they use half as much electricity when in standby mode.
I wonder what other exciting stuff is lined up!!


Sounds like a damned good idea. I wonder if EU law should mandate
that that all consumer AV devices go into standby by default if not
used for some reasonable period of time, e.g. 5 hours.


define "used"?
Which devices are not "used" and left powered on, apart from possibly
street lights.


VCRs, Hi-Fis, Televisions, Set top boxes, VCRs etc. Basically anything
that sits there doing **** all for most of its like to an audience of
nobody because nobody could be arsed to put the device in standby or
switch it off before going to work.


How is it different if someone is watching (or
recording) a three hour movie? Or the Cup Final? Or the
election night coverage?

Some of the items you mention (TVs, Set-top boxes) are
functioning correctly and exactly as intended when "not
used and left powered on" (because "used" does not
necessarily mean having its buttons pushed).

Also note I said "by default". I.e. if you like you can disable the
function.


Thank goodness for that. Let's hope it works.

Jomtien January 19th 07 08:00 AM

Sky Auto Standby and other 'innovations'
 
Heracles Pollux wrote:

Which devices are not "used" and left powered on, apart from possibly street
lights.


I am constantly astounded by the wastefulness of many people. Many of
my customers leave their PCs on 24/7, though they rarely use them at
all. The same people also tend to leave lights on in unused rooms, and
radios and TVs on when unused also.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Heracles Pollux January 19th 07 12:12 PM

Sky Auto Standby and other 'innovations'
 

"Jomtien" wrote in message
...
Heracles Pollux wrote:

Which devices are not "used" and left powered on, apart from possibly
street
lights.


I am constantly astounded by the wastefulness of many people. Many of
my customers leave their PCs on 24/7, though they rarely use them at
all. The same people also tend to leave lights on in unused rooms, and
radios and TVs on when unused also.



Different point.

But in all those cases the devices are being "used" as the user commanded.




Ed January 19th 07 12:29 PM

Sky Auto Standby and other 'innovations'
 

Jomtien wrote:
Heracles Pollux wrote:

Which devices are not "used" and left powered on, apart from possibly street
lights.


I am constantly astounded by the wastefulness of many people. Many of
my customers leave their PCs on 24/7, though they rarely use them at
all. The same people also tend to leave lights on in unused rooms, and
radios and TVs on when unused also.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)


My wife will always leave a light on in the playroom despite it being
used for perhaps an hour a day, because 'it looks nicer from outside'
FFS!!!

This is just mad wimmin behaviour though, in the same way that she'll
make the bed every morning and arrange the pillows in a precise fashion
as if we were selling the place and expecting a load of people coming
into out bedroom to examine it. WHY???


Cardinal Chunder January 19th 07 01:35 PM

Sky Auto Standby and other 'innovations'
 
JohnW wrote:
"Cardinal Chunder" wrote in message
...
Ed wrote:
Heard today that Sky boxes will have a new feature enabled in the next
software package to make them automatically go into standby, as
apparently they use half as much electricity when in standby mode.

I wonder what other exciting stuff is lined up!!

Sounds like a damned good idea. I wonder if EU law should mandate that
that all consumer AV devices go into standby by default if not used for
some reasonable period of time, e.g. 5 hours.


The trouble with this idea is that one person's reasonable will differ from
the next person's. Some people will, quite reasonably, have their Sky boxes
piped through to their hi-fi to listen to the radio all day long - when I
worked at home I used to change the channel to a radio station at about 6am,
had my breakfast, then did a days work follwed by another couple of hours of
radio listening until I might have decided to watch some TV at about 7pm -
so.... 13 hours without the box being touched yet it was in constant (and
reasonable) use.


Hence the reason for "by default". i.e if you don't like the default,
change it or disable it altogether. Same should happen with computers -
30 mins of activity and into standby it goes. Again, if that doesn't
suit you, then change to something else or disable it.

The power savings and subsequent drop in CO2 emissions would be
staggering if all devices did this.

--
"Hello. I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of alien encounters is
true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining
lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is: No."


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