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andwan January 10th 07 06:03 PM

TV License vs Broadband Internet Only
 
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable modem,
but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV license?


Jeff Lawrence January 10th 07 06:06 PM

TV License vs Broadband Internet Only
 
andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?


That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff



Flying Tortoise January 10th 07 06:15 PM

TV License vs Broadband Internet Only
 

Jeff Lawrence wrote:

andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?


That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff


If you are using it as a television receiver ie. watching or recording
programmes at the time of broadcast, technically yes. If you are
watching downloaded programmes or using only on-demand services then
technically no. Remains a grey area in the legislation.


Stewart Smith January 10th 07 06:15 PM

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andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable modem,
but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV license?


I think you only need it if you watch live TV via the internet, such as
live football which is also being simultaneously transmitted to the UK.
I seem to remember the TVLA making a big deal about that during the
world cup.

Stewart

Heracles Pollux January 10th 07 06:16 PM

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"Jeff Lawrence" wrote in message
...
andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?


That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff




Very good!

No-one needs a TV Licence today unless they want one. The BBC TVL Gestapo do
not have the intellect, power, or means to force people to fund the BBC if
they do not want to.

I have no licence after 4 years, and I am still waiting for the Gestapo to
"interview" me under caution blah blah. I think I may be waiting a lifetime
for this to happen. ;-)

Word is, BBC TV Licensing are planning to move their operation to an Indian
call centre which will make their paper regime of fear even more useless.




TimB January 10th 07 06:16 PM

TV License vs Broadband Internet Only
 

Jeff Lawrence wrote:
andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?


That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff


No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps coming
up is beyond me.

Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?


Heracles Pollux January 10th 07 06:20 PM

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"Stewart Smith" wrote in message
...
andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable modem,
but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV license?


I think you only need it if you watch live TV via the internet, such as
live football which is also being simultaneously transmitted to the UK. I
seem to remember the TVLA making a big deal about that during the world
cup.

Stewart




Of course they would.

Of course they will say "they take xxxxx very seriously" too. ;-)

The fact is the BBC TVL have no means to prove to the courts what someone
may do within software or within TCP/IP protocols.

They do not have a means to see what people do in their houses and offices
other than to 1. ask for a confession (which works on women mainly), 2, walk
up to a window (which is illegal if you forbid them from trespassing on
private land), or 3, falsifying statements (which is common practice and
endorsed by their beaurocracy but tricky if they do not know one's name).




Jeff Lawrence January 10th 07 06:22 PM

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TimB wrote:
Jeff Lawrence wrote:
andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?


That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff


No, it depends on whether he watches TV.


You'd think so wouldn't you.
Cheers
Jeff



Krustov January 10th 07 06:22 PM

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uk.media.tv.misc
andwan
10 Jan 2007 09:03:45 -0800
om

if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable modem,
but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV license?


Doesnt the word 'television' dictate a device custom built to do a
specific job .


--
www.phptakeaway.co.uk
(work in progress)

Alex Heney January 10th 07 06:25 PM

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On 10 Jan 2007 09:15:15 -0800, "Flying Tortoise"
wrote:


Jeff Lawrence wrote:

andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?


That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff


If you are using it as a television receiver ie. watching or recording
programmes at the time of broadcast, technically yes. If you are
watching downloaded programmes or using only on-demand services then
technically no. Remains a grey area in the legislation.


No, it isn't a grey area.

You have defined it perfectly correctly above, and there is nothing
"grey" about it.
--
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Heracles Pollux January 10th 07 06:27 PM

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"TimB" wrote in message
ups.com...

Jeff Lawrence wrote:
andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?


That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff


No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps coming
up is beyond me.

Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?




No "you" do not "need" a licence. The TV set works regardless of what piece
of paper might be filed somewhere.

They may think that you "require" a licence.

This is not actually a "need".

There is no benefit to the citizen or "licence applicant" in possessing a
valid licence, unless they happen to be a fan of the BBC's output, in which
case they really ought to consider funding not the minimum of the licence
but the maximum they think the BBC is worth.

Why is it right to give generously to a charity yet no one one who loves the
BBC ever advocates the charitable and righteous act of giving to their BBC
in order to do "more good"?






Alex Heney January 10th 07 06:27 PM

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On 10 Jan 2007 09:03:45 -0800, "andwan"
wrote:

if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable modem,
but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV license?


As others have said, you legally require a license if you download or
stream content simultaneously (or virtually so) with it being
transmitted by "normal" means.

Technically, they were wrong about the "normal" transmission having to
be to the UK.

If you never do that, then you do not need a license.
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
If laughter is the best medicine, shouldn't we be regulating it?
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

Heracles Pollux January 10th 07 06:29 PM

TV License vs Broadband Internet Only
 

"Alex Heney" wrote in message
...
On 10 Jan 2007 09:15:15 -0800, "Flying Tortoise"
wrote:


Jeff Lawrence wrote:

andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?

That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff


If you are using it as a television receiver ie. watching or recording
programmes at the time of broadcast, technically yes. If you are
watching downloaded programmes or using only on-demand services then
technically no. Remains a grey area in the legislation.


No, it isn't a grey area.

You have defined it perfectly correctly above, and there is nothing
"grey" about it.
--




Statutory Instrument actually at the definition of Tessa "I can't remember
whether I have a £300K mortgage or not" Jowell's whim.





Heracles Pollux January 10th 07 06:39 PM

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"andwan" wrote in message
ps.com...
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable modem,
but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV license?




Important advice to you:

Do not admit any details what so ever to the BBC TV Gestapo. Do not admit
your name.

If you make any reply, the safest response is:

"Thank you for your enquiry. We do not have any licensable equipment or
installations here and are therefore not subject to TV licensing within the
meaning of sections 363 to 368 of the Communications Act 2003. The "implied
right of access" is here by withdrawn to you and your employees / agents,
and you are not to enter or approach any part of our property. yours
sincerely"

Sign illegibly.

One you do that, you will receive the very minimum level of harassment and
threat-o-grams.





If you admit to possession of a TV, you will receive a large amount of
harassment. Therefore do not do so.




Problem solved.

And to really take this ****, send it using their freepost address too by
writing "freepost" on it.



TimB January 10th 07 06:42 PM

TV License vs Broadband Internet Only
 

Heracles Pollux wrote:

No "you" do not "need" a licence. The TV set works regardless of what piece
of paper might be filed somewhere.

They may think that you "require" a licence.

This is not actually a "need".


Aaah, semantics. *Thats* how we drag these threads out for so long.

Thanks for explaining


Heracles Pollux January 10th 07 06:44 PM

TV License vs Broadband Internet Only
 

"TimB" wrote in message
oups.com...

Heracles Pollux wrote:

No "you" do not "need" a licence. The TV set works regardless of what
piece
of paper might be filed somewhere.

They may think that you "require" a licence.

This is not actually a "need".


Aaah, semantics. *Thats* how we drag these threads out for so long.

Thanks for explaining



If everyone thought the BBC was such a good outfit, the issue would not get
disputed.

;-)




Rob January 10th 07 06:44 PM

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TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies such
as yours.

--
Rob



TimB January 10th 07 06:47 PM

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Rob wrote:
TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies such
as yours.


I'm intrigued. Please, why do you believe that my response is
incorrect? Simplistic it certainly is, but then it's not exactly a
complicated bit of legislation. Granted, there are a few extremes (such
as 'installing' equipment) that are outside the scope of my definition,
but I think my definition pretty much covers it for the average person.


TimB January 10th 07 06:49 PM

TV License vs Broadband Internet Only
 

Heracles Pollux wrote:
"TimB" wrote in message
oups.com...

Heracles Pollux wrote:

No "you" do not "need" a licence. The TV set works regardless of what
piece
of paper might be filed somewhere.

They may think that you "require" a licence.

This is not actually a "need".


Aaah, semantics. *Thats* how we drag these threads out for so long.

Thanks for explaining



If everyone thought the BBC was such a good outfit, the issue would not get
disputed.

;-)


You misunderstand me somewhere. I certainly don't believe any such
thing.

*Looks at headers*

Aaah....I'm replying from uk.legal. My reference to 'need' was in the
law-abiding citizen sense of the word. I'm guessing you're posting from
elsewhere. Now I see the confusion :-)


Heracles Pollux January 10th 07 06:51 PM

TV License vs Broadband Internet Only
 

"Rob" wrote in message
...
TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies
such as yours.

--
Rob



Correct.

You have to "use", "install" and have "intention to use", and not be subject
to the few exemptions such as "TV trade".

The "television receiver" has to be defined within the current statutory
instrument.

Unfortunately, TVL often find the lay magistrates who arbitrate over their
private prosecutions combinded with the lack of counsel for the "defendent"
plus New Labour's slashing of "public defenders" means people get convicted
on unsound convictions.

This is why many more poor women, immigrants, and students get done
convicted than educated, wealthy, middle class men.





Mike_B January 10th 07 06:57 PM

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In message . com, TimB
writes

Rob wrote:
TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies such
as yours.


I'm intrigued. Please, why do you believe that my response is
incorrect? Simplistic it certainly is, but then it's not exactly a
complicated bit of legislation. Granted, there are a few extremes (such
as 'installing' equipment) that are outside the scope of my definition,
but I think my definition pretty much covers it for the average person.


Agreed.
--
Mike_B

Dr Zoidberg January 10th 07 07:31 PM

TV License vs Broadband Internet Only
 
TimB wrote:
Jeff Lawrence wrote:
andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?


That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff


No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
coming up is beyond me.

Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?


Because the same people keep repeating the pub-expert opinions and stating
directly the opposite
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk



Pyriform January 10th 07 08:35 PM

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TimB wrote:
Heracles Pollux wrote:
"TimB" wrote:
Heracles Pollux wrote:

No "you" do not "need" a licence. The TV set works regardless of
what piece of paper might be filed somewhere.

They may think that you "require" a licence.

This is not actually a "need".

Aaah, semantics. *Thats* how we drag these threads out for so long.
Thanks for explaining


If everyone thought the BBC was such a good outfit, the issue would
not get disputed.


You misunderstand me somewhere. I certainly don't believe any such
thing.

*Looks at headers*

Aaah....I'm replying from uk.legal. My reference to 'need' was in the
law-abiding citizen sense of the word. I'm guessing you're posting
from elsewhere. Now I see the confusion :-)


Yes, Mr Bollux 's main purpose in life is to brag about getting away with
not paying his TV licence fee. Here are some of the reasons he has
previously given for not paying it:

1) He's a patriotic Englishman fighting to free the nation from the tyranny
of the BBC - a sort of latter-day resistance fighter.

2) Many of the TV channels use DOGs. He hates DOGs, and he's not paying for
them.

3) He doesn't watch the BBC anyway.

4) He does watch the BBC, but it's mostly crap and he's not paying for it.
And it has DOGs.

5) He only watches recorded TV so he doesn't need a licence.

6) They can't catch him anyway




Adrian A January 10th 07 08:50 PM

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TimB wrote:
Heracles Pollux wrote:
"TimB" wrote in message
oups.com...

Heracles Pollux wrote:

No "you" do not "need" a licence. The TV set works regardless of
what piece
of paper might be filed somewhere.

They may think that you "require" a licence.

This is not actually a "need".

Aaah, semantics. *Thats* how we drag these threads out for so long.

Thanks for explaining



If everyone thought the BBC was such a good outfit, the issue would
not get disputed.

;-)


You misunderstand me somewhere. I certainly don't believe any such
thing.

*Looks at headers*

Aaah....I'm replying from uk.legal. My reference to 'need' was in the
law-abiding citizen sense of the word. I'm guessing you're posting
from elsewhere. Now I see the confusion :-)


The person you replied to is anything but a law abiding citizen.



Heracles Pollux January 10th 07 08:58 PM

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"Adrian A" wrote in message
om...
TimB wrote:
Heracles Pollux wrote:
"TimB" wrote in message
oups.com...

Heracles Pollux wrote:

No "you" do not "need" a licence. The TV set works regardless of
what piece
of paper might be filed somewhere.

They may think that you "require" a licence.

This is not actually a "need".

Aaah, semantics. *Thats* how we drag these threads out for so long.

Thanks for explaining



If everyone thought the BBC was such a good outfit, the issue would
not get disputed.

;-)


You misunderstand me somewhere. I certainly don't believe any such
thing.

*Looks at headers*

Aaah....I'm replying from uk.legal. My reference to 'need' was in the
law-abiding citizen sense of the word. I'm guessing you're posting
from elsewhere. Now I see the confusion :-)


The person you replied to is anything but a law abiding citizen.





But never convicted of anything.






Heracles Pollux January 10th 07 09:03 PM

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Aaah....I'm replying from uk.legal. My reference to 'need' was in the
law-abiding citizen sense of the word. I'm guessing you're posting
from elsewhere. Now I see the confusion :-)


The person you replied to is anything but a law abiding citizen.




and which offences are you implying I have alegedly broken?


Name of offence? Place? Victim?


To be clear however: I will not give one penny to the BBC and we can settle
that via the courts.


I have been convicted of no offences ever. I am under investigation by no
law enforcement authority.

Even the BBC have failed to apply to either search my house, "interview" me
under caution, or even submit a list of questions.

What the **** are you wittering on about?








Adrian January 10th 07 09:26 PM

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Mike Henry ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

Perhaps it's because of agreeing to lots of American licences every time
you install software,


Or perhaps it's because of agreeing to lots of American licenses?

Mark Carver January 10th 07 09:31 PM

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Mike Henry wrote:
In . com, "TimB"
wrote:

Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?


I don't know, but I am continually astonished that people don't know how
to spell the English word "licence" :-(. Perhaps it's because of
agreeing to lots of American licences every time you install software,
that they are so bombarded with the American spelling that they think
it's correct English?


It's not as if there are lots of American TV programmes talking about program
licences.

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

Alex Heney January 10th 07 10:49 PM

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:23:00 +0000, Mike Henry
wrote:

In . com, "TimB"
wrote:

Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?


I don't know, but I am continually astonished that people don't know how
to spell the English word "licence" :-(. Perhaps it's because of
agreeing to lots of American licences every time you install software,
that they are so bombarded with the American spelling that they think
it's correct English?


It doesn't help matters that the word "license" is perfectly valid in
UK English, just with not quite the same meaning as "licence". So
spell checkers won't pick it up.
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Daddy, what does FORMATTING DRIVE C: mean?
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Alex Heney January 10th 07 10:50 PM

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:22:48 -0000, Krustov wrote:

uk.media.tv.misc
andwan
10 Jan 2007 09:03:45 -0800
. com

if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable modem,
but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV license?


Doesnt the word 'television' dictate a device custom built to do a
specific job .


In English, maybe.

In legalese, no.
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Daddy, what does FORMATTING DRIVE C: mean?
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Alex Heney January 10th 07 10:52 PM

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On 10 Jan 2007 09:47:20 -0800, "TimB" wrote:


Rob wrote:
TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies such
as yours.


I'm intrigued. Please, why do you believe that my response is
incorrect?


Technically (and pedantically), "watch" is the wrong word.

You need a licence if you *Use* the TV to receive TV programme
services.

You still need one even if you are blind (although it is free then),
or if you have the picture dimmed right down so that you can only hear
it.

--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
To be, or not to be, those are the parameters.
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Dom Robinson January 10th 07 11:07 PM

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In article ,
says...
"Jeff Lawrence" wrote in message
...
andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?


That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff




Very good!

No-one needs a TV Licence today unless they want one. The BBC TVL Gestapo do
not have the intellect, power, or means to force people to fund the BBC if
they do not want to.

I have no licence after 4 years, and I am still waiting for the Gestapo to
"interview" me under caution blah blah. I think I may be waiting a lifetime
for this to happen. ;-)

And what do you say when the TV licence blokes keep knocking on your door?
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
/*
http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
/* 1125 DVDs, 344 games, 299 CDs, 110 cinema films, 41 concerts, videos & news
/* gears of war, beatles week, ridge racer 2 psp, call of duty 3, jarhead

New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml
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Dom Robinson January 10th 07 11:15 PM

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In article ,
says...
To be clear however: I will not give one penny to the BBC and we can settle
that via the courts.

We know. You've said so 100 ****ing times. Now shut the **** up about it!

Eat a box of these - it might help!
https://www.britshop.com.au/Store/photos/BIS026-s.jpg
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
/* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
/* 1125 DVDs, 344 games, 299 CDs, 110 cinema films, 41 concerts, videos & news
/* gears of war, beatles week, ridge racer 2 psp, call of duty 3, jarhead

New music charts - http://dvdfever.co.uk/music.shtml
DVDfever Youtube Channel - http://youtube.com/user/DVDfever

Heracles Pollux January 10th 07 11:46 PM

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"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
...
In article ,

says...
"Jeff Lawrence" wrote in message
...
andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?

That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff




Very good!

No-one needs a TV Licence today unless they want one. The BBC TVL Gestapo
do
not have the intellect, power, or means to force people to fund the BBC
if
they do not want to.

I have no licence after 4 years, and I am still waiting for the Gestapo
to
"interview" me under caution blah blah. I think I may be waiting a
lifetime
for this to happen. ;-)

And what do you say when the TV licence blokes keep knocking on your door?
--



We don't answer the door to cold-callers so that scenario has never
occurred.

We did invite them to arrange an appointment with my solicitor. They never
did accept my generous and gracious invite.






AC January 11th 07 01:57 AM

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"Heracles Pollux" wrote in message
...

Aaah....I'm replying from uk.legal. My reference to 'need' was in
the
law-abiding citizen sense of the word. I'm guessing you're posting
from elsewhere. Now I see the confusion :-)


The person you replied to is anything but a law abiding citizen.




and which offences are you implying I have alegedly broken?


Name of offence? Place? Victim?


To be clear however: I will not give one penny to the BBC and we can
settle that via the courts.


I have been convicted of no offences ever. I am under investigation
by no law enforcement authority.

Even the BBC have failed to apply to either search my house,
"interview" me under caution, or even submit a list of questions.

What the **** are you wittering on about?


You have admitted it. Not being caught or convicted does not negate
that. As you have confessed, no one needs to prove it or convict you
to state it.

AC



Joe Lee January 11th 07 02:49 AM

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"Alex Heney" wrote in message
...
On 10 Jan 2007 09:47:20 -0800, "TimB" wrote:


Rob wrote:
TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies
such
as yours.


I'm intrigued. Please, why do you believe that my response is
incorrect?


Technically (and pedantically), "watch" is the wrong word.

You need a licence if you *Use* the TV to receive TV programme
services.

You still need one even if you are blind (although it is free then),



Where on earth did you get that from ?

"If you or someone you live with is registered blind, you qualify to receive
a 50% concession on the cost of your TV Licence."

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/blind.jsp

Joe Lee



or if you have the picture dimmed right down so that you can only hear
it

..

--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
To be, or not to be, those are the parameters.
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom




Alex Heney January 11th 07 03:00 AM

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:49:09 -0000, "Joe Lee" [email protected]
wrote:


"Alex Heney" wrote in message
.. .
On 10 Jan 2007 09:47:20 -0800, "TimB" wrote:


Rob wrote:
TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies
such
as yours.

I'm intrigued. Please, why do you believe that my response is
incorrect?


Technically (and pedantically), "watch" is the wrong word.

You need a licence if you *Use* the TV to receive TV programme
services.

You still need one even if you are blind (although it is free then),



Where on earth did you get that from ?


Faulty memory.

I was confusing it with the over 75 year old licence, which *is* free.

--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Don't let the computer bugs bite!
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

Joe Lee January 11th 07 03:49 AM

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"Alex Heney" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:49:09 -0000, "Joe Lee" [email protected]
wrote:


"Alex Heney" wrote in message
. ..
On 10 Jan 2007 09:47:20 -0800, "TimB" wrote:


Rob wrote:
TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a
TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the
BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you
don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies
such
as yours.

I'm intrigued. Please, why do you believe that my response is
incorrect?

Technically (and pedantically), "watch" is the wrong word.

You need a licence if you *Use* the TV to receive TV programme
services.

You still need one even if you are blind (although it is free then),



Where on earth did you get that from ?


Faulty memory.


Then can I suggest that uk.legal would benefit from a little less quantity &
a little more quality in your posts. Perhaps then you would not need to
place quite so much reliance upon your memory.

Joe Lee



Alex Heney, Global Villager
Don't let the computer bugs bite!
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom




Heracles Pollux January 11th 07 09:23 AM

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"AC" wrote in message
...

"Heracles Pollux" wrote in message
...

Aaah....I'm replying from uk.legal. My reference to 'need' was in the
law-abiding citizen sense of the word. I'm guessing you're posting
from elsewhere. Now I see the confusion :-)

The person you replied to is anything but a law abiding citizen.




and which offences are you implying I have alegedly broken?


Name of offence? Place? Victim?


To be clear however: I will not give one penny to the BBC and we can
settle that via the courts.


I have been convicted of no offences ever. I am under investigation by no
law enforcement authority.

Even the BBC have failed to apply to either search my house, "interview"
me under caution, or even submit a list of questions.

What the **** are you wittering on about?


You have admitted it. Not being caught or convicted does not negate that.
As you have confessed, no one needs to prove it or convict you to state
it.

AC




With regards to not paying for the BBC, rather than shame, that offence is a
badge of honour.

To be classed a "criminal" for refusing to fund the BBC is the same as being
classed a "criminal" by the Nazis for supporting the French Resistance or
for spreading the wisdom of democracy in China or Saudi Arabia.

Can you name any real criminal offences or is the allegation merely
sensational falsehood, defamatory and libellous?

You couldn't even get me for a parking ticket or for breaking wind in
church.




Alex Heney January 11th 07 10:29 AM

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 02:49:39 -0000, "Joe Lee" [email protected]
wrote:


"Alex Heney" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:49:09 -0000, "Joe Lee" [email protected]

snip


You still need one even if you are blind (although it is free then),


Where on earth did you get that from ?


Faulty memory.


Then can I suggest that uk.legal would benefit from a little less quantity &
a little more quality in your posts. Perhaps then you would not need to
place quite so much reliance upon your memory.


You can suggest it, of course.

I will take not a blind bit of notice, and the suggestion rather
lowers my opinion of you, but never mind that :-)


The number of posts I make has no bearing whatsoever on whether I
"rely" on my memory.
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Oxymoron: Random Order.
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom


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