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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:45:37 -0000, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Heracles Pollux wrote:
With regards to not paying for the BBC, rather than shame, that
offence is a badge of honour.

To be classed a "criminal" for refusing to fund the BBC is the same
as being classed a "criminal" by the Nazis for supporting the French
Resistance

Yes, I can see now how those are exactly equivalent moral actions. And there
was I thinking you were just some pathetic, posturing, criminal scumbag! In
reality, you have placed your life on the line for the greater good of
mankind. You have saved yourself hundreds of pounds so that we may be free!

I shall make immediate representations to the Pope so that your canonisation
can be fast-tracked in the event of your demise.

LOL

Lee.
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lee at w2designs dot co dot uk

If I have one flaw, it's that I'm a perfectoinist.

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:51:45 -0000, "Heracles Pollux"
wrote:

This is why many more poor women, immigrants, and students get done
convicted than educated, wealthy, middle class men.

Or maybe educated, wealthy, middle class men see the sense in just
paying for the service in the first place and so very rarely ever need
to turn up in front of a magistrate to 'get done convicted'?

Lee.
--
lee at w2designs dot co dot uk

If I have one flaw, it's that I'm a perfectoinist.

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"LeeJS" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:45:37 -0000, "Pyriform"
wrote:

Heracles Pollux wrote:
With regards to not paying for the BBC, rather than shame, that
offence is a badge of honour.

To be classed a "criminal" for refusing to fund the BBC is the same
as being classed a "criminal" by the Nazis for supporting the French
Resistance

Yes, I can see now how those are exactly equivalent moral actions. And
there
was I thinking you were just some pathetic, posturing, criminal scumbag!
In
reality, you have placed your life on the line for the greater good of
mankind. You have saved yourself hundreds of pounds so that we may be
free!

I shall make immediate representations to the Pope so that your
canonisation
can be fast-tracked in the event of your demise.

LOL

Lee.
--
lee at w2designs dot co dot uk

If I have one flaw, it's that I'm a perfectoinist.



Pyriform is playing strawman and has been kill filed by me previously.

I take it he is on the side of the BBC, so from my point of view, the
equivalent to a French collaborator or a member of the Soviet Union's
Communist Party who favours the interest of a central party..

I do not need to ridicule my opponents nor do I need to harm them or take
away their liberties or freedoms to get what my side requires.

The freedom to reject the BBC and to condemn the bad practices and bad
television the BBC has degenerated into, is a fundamental human freedom,
without which you are not free.

BBC Resistance
 

"LeeJS" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:51:45 -0000, "Heracles Pollux"
wrote:

This is why many more poor women, immigrants, and students get done
convicted than educated, wealthy, middle class men.

Or maybe educated, wealthy, middle class men see the sense in just
paying for the service in the first place and so very rarely ever need
to turn up in front of a magistrate to 'get done convicted'?

Lee.
--
lee at w2designs dot co dot uk

If I have one flaw, it's that I'm a perfectoinist.




You ridicule a typing mistake. Typos happen. That is a petty.


I do not have any statistics showing the composition of evaders.

I have however in detail examined The Courts / Home Office records on
Wireless Telegraphy Act / Communications Act 2003 trials.

The BBC's figures say there a 2 million unlicensed properties. (However
those figures were compiled by Zarin Patel who's bonus is affected by them.
I personally think the figures may be higher if deliberate deselection is
counted).

There are about 110,000 prosecutions at last count and 85,000 actually
convictions, meaning the trial process is not actually a dead certain
conviction.

Given that 95% of offenders do not reach trial or conviction, there is a lot
of grey area.

19 out of 20 "offenders" do so without consequence.

Capita Plc full and its commission based sales force instinctively know who
are the easiest more profitable soft targets, and that is who they go after.

I have long argued how unjust it is for a "criminal law" to be so
disproportionately targeted at the weakest, generally poorest, generally
female part of society.



The BBC particularly likes to re-target those it has just convicted. This
makes a mockery of the criminal justice system as clearly the criminal
justice system also fails to reform and rehabilitate the offenders.


If I may be so bold to say, I personally am a white, middle class, educated,
demi-millionaire who holds public offices and directorships. My fellow
Licence Fee resistance members include Lords of the Realm, diplomats,
journalists, farmers, unemployed, soldiers, housewives, immigrants,
solicitors, students, etc.

I think you will find people of any race, religion, ethnicity, profession,
education, and person wealth can refuse to cooperate with the BBC autocracy.



I resent the term "service". The Licence Fee is not a payment for a service.
It is a permit to operate passive receiving equipment. There is no
entitlement to any service or quality of service and the licence
specifically warns you of that.

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Heracles Pollux wrote:
Pyriform ... has been kill filed by me previously.

I know. That's what makes it so much fun. I stand behind you making bunny
rabbit ears and pointing out the truth and you don't even know it (unless
someone quotes me, of course).

I take it he is on the side of the BBC, so from my point of view, the
equivalent to a French collaborator or a member of the Soviet Union's
Communist Party who favours the interest of a central party..

That's right. I am personally responsible for an entire series of Stalinist
purges. I'm evil, me.

[Remaining pompous, self-serving garbage snipped]

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Pyriform wrote:
Heracles Pollux wrote:
Pyriform ... has been kill filed by me previously.

I know. That's what makes it so much fun. I stand behind you making
bunny rabbit ears and pointing out the truth and you don't even know
it (unless someone quotes me, of course).

I take it he is on the side of the BBC, so from my point of view, the
equivalent to a French collaborator or a member of the Soviet Union's
Communist Party who favours the interest of a central party..

That's right. I am personally responsible for an entire series of
Stalinist purges. I'm evil, me.

[Remaining pompous, self-serving garbage snipped]

I'm just replying so the thieving little scrote knows how much you care,
personally I killfiled him long ago. I'm sure there'll be a great
celebration if we hear he's finally been caught.

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"Adrian A" wrote in message
...
Pyriform wrote:
Heracles Pollux wrote:
Pyriform ... has been kill filed by me previously.

I know. That's what makes it so much fun. I stand behind you making
bunny rabbit ears and pointing out the truth and you don't even know
it (unless someone quotes me, of course).

I take it he is on the side of the BBC, so from my point of view, the
equivalent to a French collaborator or a member of the Soviet Union's
Communist Party who favours the interest of a central party..

That's right. I am personally responsible for an entire series of
Stalinist purges. I'm evil, me.

[Remaining pompous, self-serving garbage snipped]

I'm just replying so the thieving little scrote knows how much you care,
personally I killfiled him long ago. I'm sure there'll be a great
celebration if we hear he's finally been caught.





How can someone be "caught" when they already freely admit what they are
doing?

It was the BBC who wrote to me saying that they will enter into no further
correspondence about my complaint. I seek remedy. They refused to settle my
complaint.

Celebration of what?

I am thieving nothing. I am rejecting sub-standard output by the BBC.

It is they who refuse to honour their obligations as part of their Charter.

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Heracles Pollux wrote:

"andwan" wrote in message
ps.com...
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable modem,
but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV license?




Important advice to you:

Do not admit any details what so ever to the BBC TV Gestapo. Do not admit
your name.

If you make any reply, the safest response is:

"Thank you for your enquiry. We do not have any licensable equipment or
installations here and are therefore not subject to TV licensing within the
meaning of sections 363 to 368 of the Communications Act 2003. The "implied
right of access" is here by withdrawn to you and your employees / agents,
and you are not to enter or approach any part of our property. yours
sincerely"

Sign illegibly.

One you do that, you will receive the very minimum level of harassment and
threat-o-grams.

If you admit to possession of a TV, you will receive a large amount of
harassment. Therefore do not do so.

Problem solved.

And to really take this ****, send it using their freepost address too by
writing "freepost" on it.

Or if you're fortunate enough to live in Scotland just wait a couple of
years until we get independence, then the BBC won't bother you ever
again.

--

Immunity is better than innoculation.

Peter

BBC Resistance
 

In article , Heracles Pollux wrote:
The BBC's figures say there a 2 million unlicensed properties. (However
those figures were compiled by Zarin Patel who's bonus is affected by them.
I personally think the figures may be higher if deliberate deselection is
counted).

Do they mean properties of any kind, with or without TV sets, or do
they just mean properties in which they think somebody might be
operating a TV set without a licence? In either case, how do they
claim to know?

It sounds suspiciously like one of the record industry's perennial
claims that a specified amount of money is being "lost" as a result of
people making copies of their products.

Rod.

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In article , Peter Hayes
wrote:
If you admit to possession of a TV, you will receive a large amount of
harassment. Therefore do not do so.

Problem solved.

And to really take this ****, send it using their freepost address too by
writing "freepost" on it.

Or if you're fortunate enough to live in Scotland just wait a couple of
years until we get independence, then the BBC won't bother you ever
again.

Once you've done that, could you invade England please? Then we can
all have free telly.

Rod.