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"TimB" wrote in message
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Jeff Lawrence wrote:
andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?

That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff

No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps coming
up is beyond me.

Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?




No "you" do not "need" a licence. The TV set works regardless of what piece
of paper might be filed somewhere.

They may think that you "require" a licence.

This is not actually a "need".

There is no benefit to the citizen or "licence applicant" in possessing a
valid licence, unless they happen to be a fan of the BBC's output, in which
case they really ought to consider funding not the minimum of the licence
but the maximum they think the BBC is worth.

Why is it right to give generously to a charity yet no one one who loves the
BBC ever advocates the charitable and righteous act of giving to their BBC
in order to do "more good"?

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On 10 Jan 2007 09:03:45 -0800, "andwan"
wrote:

if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable modem,
but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV license?

As others have said, you legally require a license if you download or
stream content simultaneously (or virtually so) with it being
transmitted by "normal" means.

Technically, they were wrong about the "normal" transmission having to
be to the UK.

If you never do that, then you do not need a license.
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
If laughter is the best medicine, shouldn't we be regulating it?
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"Alex Heney" wrote in message
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On 10 Jan 2007 09:15:15 -0800, "Flying Tortoise"
wrote:


Jeff Lawrence wrote:

andwan wrote:
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
license?

That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
Cheers
Jeff

If you are using it as a television receiver ie. watching or recording
programmes at the time of broadcast, technically yes. If you are
watching downloaded programmes or using only on-demand services then
technically no. Remains a grey area in the legislation.

No, it isn't a grey area.

You have defined it perfectly correctly above, and there is nothing
"grey" about it.
--



Statutory Instrument actually at the definition of Tessa "I can't remember
whether I have a £300K mortgage or not" Jowell's whim.

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"andwan" wrote in message
ps.com...
if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable modem,
but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV license?




Important advice to you:

Do not admit any details what so ever to the BBC TV Gestapo. Do not admit
your name.

If you make any reply, the safest response is:

"Thank you for your enquiry. We do not have any licensable equipment or
installations here and are therefore not subject to TV licensing within the
meaning of sections 363 to 368 of the Communications Act 2003. The "implied
right of access" is here by withdrawn to you and your employees / agents,
and you are not to enter or approach any part of our property. yours
sincerely"

Sign illegibly.

One you do that, you will receive the very minimum level of harassment and
threat-o-grams.





If you admit to possession of a TV, you will receive a large amount of
harassment. Therefore do not do so.




Problem solved.

And to really take this ****, send it using their freepost address too by
writing "freepost" on it.

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Heracles Pollux wrote:

No "you" do not "need" a licence. The TV set works regardless of what piece
of paper might be filed somewhere.

They may think that you "require" a licence.

This is not actually a "need".

Aaah, semantics. *Thats* how we drag these threads out for so long.

Thanks for explaining

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"TimB" wrote in message
oups.com...

Heracles Pollux wrote:

No "you" do not "need" a licence. The TV set works regardless of what
piece
of paper might be filed somewhere.

They may think that you "require" a licence.

This is not actually a "need".

Aaah, semantics. *Thats* how we drag these threads out for so long.

Thanks for explaining



If everyone thought the BBC was such a good outfit, the issue would not get
disputed.

;-)

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TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies such
as yours.

--
Rob

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Rob wrote:
TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies such
as yours.

I'm intrigued. Please, why do you believe that my response is
incorrect? Simplistic it certainly is, but then it's not exactly a
complicated bit of legislation. Granted, there are a few extremes (such
as 'installing' equipment) that are outside the scope of my definition,
but I think my definition pretty much covers it for the average person.

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Heracles Pollux wrote:
"TimB" wrote in message
oups.com...

Heracles Pollux wrote:

No "you" do not "need" a licence. The TV set works regardless of what
piece
of paper might be filed somewhere.

They may think that you "require" a licence.

This is not actually a "need".

Aaah, semantics. *Thats* how we drag these threads out for so long.

Thanks for explaining



If everyone thought the BBC was such a good outfit, the issue would not get
disputed.

;-)

You misunderstand me somewhere. I certainly don't believe any such
thing.

*Looks at headers*

Aaah....I'm replying from uk.legal. My reference to 'need' was in the
law-abiding citizen sense of the word. I'm guessing you're posting from
elsewhere. Now I see the confusion :-)

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"Rob" wrote in message
...
TimB wrote:
|| Jeff Lawrence wrote:
||| andwan wrote:
|||| if I don't have a TV set, but I got broadband internet via cable
|||| modem, but no subscription to NTL TV service, do I have to buy a TV
|||| license?
|||
||| That depends on whether or not you have any gripes against the BBC.
||| Cheers
||| Jeff
||
|| No, it depends on whether he watches TV. Why this question keeps
|| coming up is beyond me.
||
|| Simple: If you watch TV, you need a license. If you don't, you don't.
|| How do we manage such lengthy threads on this topic?

Probably because a lot of people post simplistic and incorrect replies
such as yours.

--
Rob



Correct.

You have to "use", "install" and have "intention to use", and not be subject
to the few exemptions such as "TV trade".

The "television receiver" has to be defined within the current statutory
instrument.

Unfortunately, TVL often find the lay magistrates who arbitrate over their
private prosecutions combinded with the lack of counsel for the "defendent"
plus New Labour's slashing of "public defenders" means people get convicted
on unsound convictions.

This is why many more poor women, immigrants, and students get done
convicted than educated, wealthy, middle class men.