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Adjusting so I can see the darks on my Samsung DLP... ?
We have a new Samsung DLP (HL-S5088W). We usually watch it with lights on in the room, and I'm happy with its picture. The other night, we tried watching a movie with the lights off (or almost completely off). My first reaction was that the TV was now too bright, hurting my eyes in the dark room. So we set about defining the TV's "Movie" mode setting for the few times we decided to turn off all the lights and watch a movie. We found a setting that seemed like it had nice contrast, but that had the brightness much lower than usual to compensate for the dark room. But the next thing I knew, I was looking at a scene of Val Kilmer and Robert Downey walking outdoors at night and thinking "There's no WAY that their jackets and the shrubs behind them are supposed to be completely black without a bit of detail!" If I turned the brightness up too much, any white or bright scenes were going to sting my eyes. And just mercilessly reducing the contrast didn't seem like a great idea either. Other than simply turning down the contrast, is there any other way to get more detail in the dark areas without making the bright areas too bright? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. |
Adjusting so I can see the darks on my Samsung DLP... ?
dgates wrote:
We have a new Samsung DLP (HL-S5088W). We usually watch it with lights on in the room, and I'm happy with its picture. The other night, we tried watching a movie with the lights off (or almost completely off). The black and low light characteristics do not work well with no ambient light. A low wattage light (60 watt incandescent or 13 watt CFL is fine) to raise the ambient level will mask many of the differences. My first reaction was that the TV was now too bright, hurting my eyes in the dark room. So we set about defining the TV's "Movie" mode setting for the few times we decided to turn off all the lights and watch a movie. We found a setting that seemed like it had nice contrast, but that had the brightness much lower than usual to compensate for the dark room. But the next thing I knew, I was looking at a scene of Val Kilmer and Robert Downey walking outdoors at night and thinking "There's no WAY that their jackets and the shrubs behind them are supposed to be completely black without a bit of detail!" If I turned the brightness up too much, any white or bright scenes were going to sting my eyes. And just mercilessly reducing the contrast didn't seem like a great idea either. The DLPs have sufficient light output but I haven't had my eyes sting from it. Can you go outdoors ? Mother nature gets _way_ brighter than any DLP. Other than simply turning down the contrast, is there any other way to get more detail in the dark areas without making the bright areas too bright? Haven't found a way. Just leave a light on. FWIW, this issue bothered me when we got ours 3 years ago. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. GG |
Adjusting so I can see the darks on my Samsung DLP... ?
On 8 Jan 2007 07:03:53 -0800, "G-squared" wrote:
dgates wrote: We have a new Samsung DLP (HL-S5088W). We usually watch it with lights on in the room, and I'm happy with its picture. The other night, we tried watching a movie with the lights off (or almost completely off). The black and low light characteristics do not work well with no ambient light. A low wattage light (60 watt incandescent or 13 watt CFL is fine) to raise the ambient level will mask many of the differences. Yeah. I've always preferred to have light in the room while watching things -- well, especially movies. Otherwise, no matter how interesting the movie, it's easy to get feeling a little sleepy. It's my girlfriend who's wishing we could get the room darker. My first reaction was that the TV was now too bright, hurting my eyes in the dark room. So we set about defining the TV's "Movie" mode setting for the few times we decided to turn off all the lights and watch a movie. We found a setting that seemed like it had nice contrast, but that had the brightness much lower than usual to compensate for the dark room. But the next thing I knew, I was looking at a scene of Val Kilmer and Robert Downey walking outdoors at night and thinking "There's no WAY that their jackets and the shrubs behind them are supposed to be completely black without a bit of detail!" If I turned the brightness up too much, any white or bright scenes were going to sting my eyes. And just mercilessly reducing the contrast didn't seem like a great idea either. The DLPs have sufficient light output but I haven't had my eyes sting from it. Can you go outdoors ? Mother nature gets _way_ brighter than any DLP. Well, maybe "sting" isn't quite the right word. But to have one very bright object hitting me in the midst of seeing darkness all around it... It's like having someone shine a flashlight on you in the dark. Sure, the sun is brighter than a flashlight, but once the room gets dark, the flashlight suddenly seems a lot brighter. Other than simply turning down the contrast, is there any other way to get more detail in the dark areas without making the bright areas too bright? Haven't found a way. Just leave a light on. FWIW, this issue bothered me when we got ours 3 years ago. That's basically what we're doing. Fortunately, it's how we already tend to do it, but I was just wondering if I could do all three of these at the same time: 1. get the room movie theater dark, 2. see all the details in the dark areas of the picture, and 3. have a maximum brightness that wouldn't hurt my eyes. For now, maybe I'll settle for getting 2 and 3 together. |
Adjusting so I can see the darks on my Samsung DLP... ?
"dgates" wrote in message ... On 8 Jan 2007 07:03:53 -0800, "G-squared" wrote: dgates wrote: We have a new Samsung DLP (HL-S5088W). We usually watch it with lights on in the room, and I'm happy with its picture. The other night, we tried watching a movie with the lights off (or almost completely off). The black and low light characteristics do not work well with no ambient light. A low wattage light (60 watt incandescent or 13 watt CFL is fine) to raise the ambient level will mask many of the differences. Yeah. I've always preferred to have light in the room while watching things -- well, especially movies. Otherwise, no matter how interesting the movie, it's easy to get feeling a little sleepy. It's my girlfriend who's wishing we could get the room darker. My first reaction was that the TV was now too bright, hurting my eyes in the dark room. So we set about defining the TV's "Movie" mode setting for the few times we decided to turn off all the lights and watch a movie. We found a setting that seemed like it had nice contrast, but that had the brightness much lower than usual to compensate for the dark room. But the next thing I knew, I was looking at a scene of Val Kilmer and Robert Downey walking outdoors at night and thinking "There's no WAY that their jackets and the shrubs behind them are supposed to be completely black without a bit of detail!" If I turned the brightness up too much, any white or bright scenes were going to sting my eyes. And just mercilessly reducing the contrast didn't seem like a great idea either. The DLPs have sufficient light output but I haven't had my eyes sting from it. Can you go outdoors ? Mother nature gets _way_ brighter than any DLP. Well, maybe "sting" isn't quite the right word. But to have one very bright object hitting me in the midst of seeing darkness all around it... It's like having someone shine a flashlight on you in the dark. Sure, the sun is brighter than a flashlight, but once the room gets dark, the flashlight suddenly seems a lot brighter. Other than simply turning down the contrast, is there any other way to get more detail in the dark areas without making the bright areas too bright? Haven't found a way. Just leave a light on. FWIW, this issue bothered me when we got ours 3 years ago. That's basically what we're doing. Fortunately, it's how we already tend to do it, but I was just wondering if I could do all three of these at the same time: 1. get the room movie theater dark, 2. see all the details in the dark areas of the picture, and 3. have a maximum brightness that wouldn't hurt my eyes. For now, maybe I'll settle for getting 2 and 3 together. Some good reading here on the lighting subject: http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/ideal_lume.htm |
Adjusting so I can see the darks on my Samsung DLP... ?
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:48:24 -0500, "Bob"
wrote: "dgates" wrote in message .. . On 8 Jan 2007 07:03:53 -0800, "G-squared" wrote: dgates wrote: We have a new Samsung DLP (HL-S5088W). We usually watch it with lights on in the room, and I'm happy with its picture. The other night, we tried watching a movie with the lights off (or almost completely off). The black and low light characteristics do not work well with no ambient light. A low wattage light (60 watt incandescent or 13 watt CFL is fine) to raise the ambient level will mask many of the differences. Yeah. I've always preferred to have light in the room while watching things -- well, especially movies. Otherwise, no matter how interesting the movie, it's easy to get feeling a little sleepy. It's my girlfriend who's wishing we could get the room darker. My first reaction was that the TV was now too bright, hurting my eyes in the dark room. So we set about defining the TV's "Movie" mode setting for the few times we decided to turn off all the lights and watch a movie. We found a setting that seemed like it had nice contrast, but that had the brightness much lower than usual to compensate for the dark room. But the next thing I knew, I was looking at a scene of Val Kilmer and Robert Downey walking outdoors at night and thinking "There's no WAY that their jackets and the shrubs behind them are supposed to be completely black without a bit of detail!" If I turned the brightness up too much, any white or bright scenes were going to sting my eyes. And just mercilessly reducing the contrast didn't seem like a great idea either. The DLPs have sufficient light output but I haven't had my eyes sting from it. Can you go outdoors ? Mother nature gets _way_ brighter than any DLP. Well, maybe "sting" isn't quite the right word. But to have one very bright object hitting me in the midst of seeing darkness all around it... It's like having someone shine a flashlight on you in the dark. Sure, the sun is brighter than a flashlight, but once the room gets dark, the flashlight suddenly seems a lot brighter. Other than simply turning down the contrast, is there any other way to get more detail in the dark areas without making the bright areas too bright? Haven't found a way. Just leave a light on. FWIW, this issue bothered me when we got ours 3 years ago. That's basically what we're doing. Fortunately, it's how we already tend to do it, but I was just wondering if I could do all three of these at the same time: 1. get the room movie theater dark, 2. see all the details in the dark areas of the picture, and 3. have a maximum brightness that wouldn't hurt my eyes. For now, maybe I'll settle for getting 2 and 3 together. Some good reading here on the lighting subject: http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/ideal_lume.htm All right, I'll check it out, but my confidence is already shaken by the picture at the top of the page. It looks like a picture of me with my short hair watching TV with Darth Vader Jr. and two of my robot friends! :-) Thanks. |
Adjusting so I can see the darks on my Samsung DLP... ?
Get a Crt rptv and you wont have this problem
dgates wrote: We have a new Samsung DLP (HL-S5088W). We usually watch it with lights on in the room, and I'm happy with its picture. The other night, we tried watching a movie with the lights off (or almost completely off). My first reaction was that the TV was now too bright, hurting my eyes in the dark room. So we set about defining the TV's "Movie" mode setting for the few times we decided to turn off all the lights and watch a movie. We found a setting that seemed like it had nice contrast, but that had the brightness much lower than usual to compensate for the dark room. But the next thing I knew, I was looking at a scene of Val Kilmer and Robert Downey walking outdoors at night and thinking "There's no WAY that their jackets and the shrubs behind them are supposed to be completely black without a bit of detail!" If I turned the brightness up too much, any white or bright scenes were going to sting my eyes. And just mercilessly reducing the contrast didn't seem like a great idea either. Other than simply turning down the contrast, is there any other way to get more detail in the dark areas without making the bright areas too bright? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. |
Adjusting so I can see the darks on my Samsung DLP... ?
On Jan 31, 10:07 am, "
wrote: Get a Crt rptv and you wont have this problem Yep, it'll just burn in, have poor focus, geometry and convergence and eventually burn out the convergence ICs and leak coolant. GG |
Adjusting so I can see the darks on my Samsung DLP... ?
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Adjusting so I can see the darks on my Samsung DLP... ?
G-squared wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:07 am, " wrote: Get a Crt rptv and you wont have this problem Yep, it'll just burn in, have poor focus, geometry and convergence and eventually burn out the convergence ICs and leak coolant. When will all that bad stuff happen? My 56" CRT RPTV is ten years old and has none of those problems. Matthew -- I'm a contractor. If you want an opinion I'll sell you one. Which one do you want? |
Adjusting so I can see the darks on my Samsung DLP... ?
On Jan 8, 12:04 am, dgates wrote:
We have a new Samsung DLP (HL-S5088W). We usually watch it with lights on in the room, and I'm happy with its picture. The other night, we tried watching a movie with the lights off (or almost completely off). My first reaction was that the TV was now too bright, hurting my eyes in the dark room. So we set about defining the TV's "Movie" mode setting for the few times we decided to turn off all the lights and watch a movie. We found a setting that seemed like it had nice contrast, but that had the brightness much lower than usual to compensate for the dark room. But the next thing I knew, I was looking at a scene of Val Kilmer and Robert Downey walking outdoors at night and thinking "There's no WAY that their jackets and the shrubs behind them are supposed to be completely black without a bit of detail!" If I turned the brightness up too much, any white or bright scenes were going to sting my eyes. And just mercilessly reducing the contrast didn't seem like a great idea either. Other than simply turning down the contrast, is there any other way to get more detail in the dark areas without making the bright areas too bright? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. turn down the brightness and leave contrast alone. if your set has good engine, this should effect overall color. the samsung hl-s.. 8[7-8]w is an outstanding digital tv, my favorite beside the jvc d- ila, but some say it's too bright and hurt the eyes. there should be some light behind the tv, but not in front of the tv. Might be next time you change the bulb, use a 15% less wattage one? |
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