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David Wade January 7th 07 10:45 PM

DTT in Ireland & PC World
 

"ronald" wrote in message
.uk...

"Adrian A" wrote in message
...
Alan Pemberton wrote:
Dave Farrance wrote:

"I McD" wrote:

Anyway, as I was there I had a nose around and was surprised to see
a large range of DTT and tuner cards and USB devices. Now one or
two of the DVB-T PCI cards also had analogue tuners, but the
majority did not. None of the USB devices had analogue tuners, as
far as I could see. I had a look at the LCD tellys. Some had
integrated DVB-T tuners and were being promoted as digital TVs. The
showcard said "Over 25
digital channels available". NOT!! ...

I wondered if this should be crossposted with an Irish technical
newsgroup, but I see that none exist. Ireland seems to be poorly
represented on Usenet. A web search on keywords related to this post
turned up a copy of the above that you'd posted on www.boards.ie
which seems to be a popular site, so I guess that the Irish prefer
web forums.

I expect they consider themselves to be part of the UK.


Don't be ridiculous!


Sorry for hijacking this thread but I bought a Belkin USB wireless adapter
from PCWorld. Says on the box works with Windows 98SE up to Windows XP. I
have 3 computers one Windows 98SE, one Windows 2000 and third Windows XP.
The adapter works on the Windows 2000 and Windows XP computers but would

not
even install on the Windows 98SE computer. When plugged in the computer

went
through the motions then said it could not find the device although it

knew
it was plugged in. So I thought, I'll just take it back and get another
make.

No chance.

Their technical person plugged it into a Windows XP computer and said it
works so no refund or exchange. I then asked to see the manager and guess
what? an arrogant little prick turned up and said that the adapter was not
faulty I was not getting a refund and that it was my settings on the

Windows
98SE computer. I even said I would buy a more expensive adapter but the
arrogant little prick said no. So does anyone have an email address that I
can complain to about this arrogant little prick?


You probably find that another 98 machine would work OK. I have had this
problem with USB ADSL adaptors. Goes through the motions of installing, then
you can't find out what the problem is. In the end I re-installed Windows
from the CD. Worked fine. I nearly fell off my chair with shock.


If I had paid £3 more and bought another type out of my local ASDA I would
had a refund no bother.


Probably better tech support as well...

Thanks Ron





Vaughan January 7th 07 11:22 PM

DTT in Ireland & PC World
 
Alan Pemberton wrote:
Dave Farrance wrote:

"I McD" wrote:

Anyway, as I was there I had a nose around and was surprised to see
a large range of DTT and tuner cards and USB devices. Now one or
two of the DVB-T PCI cards also had analogue tuners, but the
majority did not. None of the USB devices had analogue tuners, as
far as I could see. I had a look at the LCD tellys. Some had
integrated DVB-T tuners and were being promoted as digital TVs. The
showcard said "Over 25
digital channels available". NOT!! ...


I wondered if this should be crossposted with an Irish technical
newsgroup, but I see that none exist. Ireland seems to be poorly
represented on Usenet. A web search on keywords related to this post
turned up a copy of the above that you'd posted on www.boards.ie
which seems to be a popular site, so I guess that the Irish prefer
web forums.


I expect they consider themselves to be part of the UK.


I think even by this December your post will still get the 'most igorant
post of the year' award.



Adrian C January 7th 07 11:24 PM

OT: Belkin USB problems on Win98SE
 
ronald wrote:
Sorry for hijacking this thread but I bought a Belkin USB wireless adapter
from PCWorld. Says on the box works with Windows 98SE up to Windows XP. I
have 3 computers one Windows 98SE, one Windows 2000 and third Windows XP.
The adapter works on the Windows 2000 and Windows XP computers but would not
even install on the Windows 98SE computer. When plugged in the computer went
through the motions then said it could not find the device although it knew
it was plugged in. So I thought, I'll just take it back and get another
make.


Did you install the software from CD before plugging the device in?
Tried Belkin's online technical support?

--
Adrian C


Vaughan January 8th 07 12:13 AM

DTT in Ireland & PC World
 
Vaughan wrote:
Alan Pemberton wrote:
Dave Farrance wrote:

"I McD" wrote:

Anyway, as I was there I had a nose around and was surprised to see
a large range of DTT and tuner cards and USB devices. Now one or
two of the DVB-T PCI cards also had analogue tuners, but the
majority did not. None of the USB devices had analogue tuners, as
far as I could see. I had a look at the LCD tellys. Some had
integrated DVB-T tuners and were being promoted as digital TVs. The
showcard said "Over 25
digital channels available". NOT!! ...

I wondered if this should be crossposted with an Irish technical
newsgroup, but I see that none exist. Ireland seems to be poorly
represented on Usenet. A web search on keywords related to this post
turned up a copy of the above that you'd posted on www.boards.ie
which seems to be a popular site, so I guess that the Irish prefer
web forums.


I expect they consider themselves to be part of the UK.


I think even by this December your post will still get the 'most
igorant post of the year' award.


Or even 'ignorant' lol - usenet law strikes again.



Bill Wright January 8th 07 12:37 AM

DTT in Ireland & PC World
 

"Vaughan" wrote in message
.uk...
I expect they consider themselves to be part of the UK.


I think even by this December your post will still get the 'most
igorant post of the year' award.


Presumably the Irish, like the Welsh and the Scots, go on about being a
nation state while it suits them, then when it doesn't they don't. I don't
blame them for that. I mean, the whole of the UK has the same attitude about
being a state of the USA, and after all, if Yorkshire didn't rely for its
defence on London we'd have been invaded by Saddam Hussein years ago. And
that would be horrible because they don't allow supping in those arab lands
do they?

Bill



Tate and Lyle January 8th 07 11:16 AM

DTT in Ireland & PC World
 
AS I understand it Ireland is due have digital in 2008.
They are commited to digital switch over in 2012 anyway:O)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital...ion_in_Ireland



"I McD" wrote in message
ups.com...
For those of you who didn't already know it, Ireland's economy is
booming. The 'Celtic Tiger' means that everyone is driving around
in brand new Mercedes and using 100-euro notes to light their turf
fires with.
To take advantage of this new found wealth many UK stores and
businesses are setting up shop. (Including yours truly who is making
far more as a rigger than he ever could in penny-pinching Northants.
Some are welcome, after 6 years without I now have a Halfords within
reach, even a B&Q to stock up on No More Nails. Some are not.....
After picking up some lovely new ratchet spanners from Halfords to
replace the ones I've left on chimney stacks, I popped into PC World.
I was after a USB to serial adaptor so I could download software to
satellite receivers from my laptop. I was assured by a very confident
young fella that such a thing does not exist ..err um..
Anyway, as I was there I had a nose around and was surprised to see a
large range of DTT and tuner cards and USB devices. Now one or two of
the DVB-T PCI cards also had analogue tuners, but the majority did not.
None of the USB devices had analogue tuners, as far as I could see. I
had a look at the LCD tellys. Some had integrated DVB-T tuners and
were being promoted as digital TVs. The showcard said "Over 25
digital channels available". NOT!!
There is of course not a hope of getting DTT in Cork or most of the
Republic for the
foreseeable future. Trials are currently being run from one transmitter
covering the Dublin area, and people close to the Northern Ireland
border can pick it up from Divis, also the Wexford coast in the South
East can get a sea path from Presley, but Cork? Not a hope in hell! I
found the (English) store manager and pointed put to him that he was
selling products that did not work in the area where they were being
sold. He told me he was aware of this, but there was nothing he could
do about it. He was sent the products and had to put them out. He had
already contacted head office and they said to sell them. I then asked
if it would be a good idea is put a sign up saying-
" At the moment there are no Digital Terrestrial broadcasts in this
area and this product will not work". He did not think he would be
allowed to do this. Good to see that DSG are maintaining their usual
standards!
I have had one or two service calls in the past to check out aerials
where it has turned out they are trying to use a digital tuner, I guess
I should be ready for a good few more!




Roderick Stewart January 8th 07 11:25 AM

DTT in Ireland & PC World
 
In article , Bill Wright wrote:
Presumably the Irish, like the Welsh and the Scots, go on about being a
nation state while it suits them, then when it doesn't they don't. I don't
blame them for that. I mean, the whole of the UK has the same attitude about
being a state of the USA, and after all, if Yorkshire didn't rely for its
defence on London we'd have been invaded by Saddam Hussein years ago. And
that would be horrible because they don't allow supping in those arab lands
do they?


Apparently we're no longer a state of the USA. There was a fascinating
documentary on BBC4 the other night explaining that as from January 1st this
year we finally paid off the four point something billion dollar loan the USA
gave us just after the second world war. I wonder if there will be any
noticeable changes in the way our politicians behave towards the Yanks now that
we're no longer in debt to them?

Rod.


Tony January 8th 07 09:32 PM

DTT in Ireland & PC World
 
Bill Wright wrote:
"Vaughan" wrote in message
.uk...
I expect they consider themselves to be part of the UK.
I think even by this December your post will still get the 'most
igorant post of the year' award.


Presumably the Irish, like the Welsh and the Scots, go on about being a
nation state while it suits them, then when it doesn't they don't. I don't
blame them for that. I mean, the whole of the UK has the same attitude about
being a state of the USA, and after all, if Yorkshire didn't rely for its
defence on London we'd have been invaded by Saddam Hussein years ago. And
that would be horrible because they don't allow supping in those arab lands
do they?

Bill



You're just winding people up deliberatley now.

The people of S. Ireland consider themselves nothing less than pure
Irish, the people of the North are a little more confused, or rather
there are differing opinions and they have the option of both passports.

S.Ireland was always (in my lifetime) been a nation state, of
S.Ireland... it is another Country!!!!

--
Tony
N.Ireland

Max Demian January 9th 07 12:07 AM

DTT in Ireland & PC World
 
"Tony" wrote in message

Bill Wright wrote:
"Vaughan" wrote in message
.uk...
I expect they consider themselves to be part of the UK.
I think even by this December your post will still get the 'most
igorant post of the year' award.


Presumably the Irish, like the Welsh and the Scots, go on about
being a nation state while it suits them, then when it doesn't they
don't. I don't blame them for that. I mean, the whole of the UK has
the same attitude about being a state of the USA, and after all, if
Yorkshire didn't rely for its defence on London we'd have been
invaded by Saddam Hussein years ago. And that would be horrible
because they don't allow supping in those arab lands do they?


You're just winding people up deliberatley now.

The people of S. Ireland consider themselves nothing less than pure
Irish, the people of the North are a little more confused, or rather
there are differing opinions and they have the option of both
passports.
S.Ireland was always (in my lifetime) been a nation state, of
S.Ireland... it is another Country!!!!


But they call themselves 'Ireland' and admit of no other nationality.

They just can't cope with the idea that there is such a place as 'Northern
Ireland' and refuse to use the term.

--
Max Demian



Tony January 9th 07 12:53 PM

DTT in Ireland & PC World
 
Max Demian wrote:
"Tony" wrote in message

Bill Wright wrote:
"Vaughan" wrote in message
.uk...
I expect they consider themselves to be part of the UK.
I think even by this December your post will still get the 'most
igorant post of the year' award.
Presumably the Irish, like the Welsh and the Scots, go on about
being a nation state while it suits them, then when it doesn't they
don't. I don't blame them for that. I mean, the whole of the UK has
the same attitude about being a state of the USA, and after all, if
Yorkshire didn't rely for its defence on London we'd have been
invaded by Saddam Hussein years ago. And that would be horrible
because they don't allow supping in those arab lands do they?


You're just winding people up deliberatley now.

The people of S. Ireland consider themselves nothing less than pure
Irish, the people of the North are a little more confused, or rather
there are differing opinions and they have the option of both
passports.
S.Ireland was always (in my lifetime) been a nation state, of
S.Ireland... it is another Country!!!!


But they call themselves 'Ireland' and admit of no other nationality.

They just can't cope with the idea that there is such a place as 'Northern
Ireland' and refuse to use the term.


They did have a claim to N.Ireland in their constitution (I think thats
what its called), but I believe it was withdrawn some time ago as it was
getting in the way for good relations between the UK and Irish Gov't.

I never heard anything bad about N.Ireland from S.Ireland people (maybe
I wasn't listening), they don't seem that bothered these days and quite
like the shopping flexibility (and doing the triple was once a lucrative
past time).

Anyway (before I say something that might offend someone), every one is
friends these days, apart from the ususal cultural dislike (between N.
England, S. England, Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland, S.Ireland, etc etc)
nonone is actually bombing anyone anymore (for the most). Having said
that, I lived in N.Ireland for 38 years never being disrupted by bombs
despite living close to Belfast, then I moved to London and the entire
city got shut down twice not long after. Soon English people will be
saying 'ah its not as bad as you see on the News, you should come over
its good craig'.

--
Tony


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