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NadCixelsyd January 4th 07 04:26 PM

Does anyone make a portable HDTV
 
They make small-screen (6"-10") screen DVD players. Does anyone make
them with ATSC tuners built in?


Sam Spade January 4th 07 06:27 PM

Does anyone make a portable HDTV
 
NadCixelsyd wrote:
They make small-screen (6"-10") screen DVD players. Does anyone make
them with ATSC tuners built in?

A small set could have an ATCS tuner and not be an HDTV.

Alan F January 4th 07 06:27 PM

Does anyone make a portable HDTV
 
NadCixelsyd wrote:

They make small-screen (6"-10") screen DVD players. Does anyone make
them with ATSC tuners built in?


As far as I know, not yet. There should be a number of smaller TVs
along with DVD recorders with built-in ATSC tuners hitting the market
very soon because the FCC is requiring that all TVs and gear with NTSC
tuners after March 1, 2007 must also have an ATSC tuner. How this
affects the portable DVD players is not clear to me. They may just drop
the NTSC tuners from the cheap models if they have tuners.

If you have a laptop and want portable ATSC reception, you could look
into USB based ATSC tuners for PCs.

Alan F



NadCixelsyd January 4th 07 06:48 PM

Does anyone make a portable HDTV
 

Sam Spade wrote:

A small set could have an ATCS tuner and not be an HDTV.


Mea culpa on that one. Yes, HTDV implies ATSC, I keep forgetting that
it's not the other way around.

As a side note: can an ATSC tuner fit in a laptop PC and/or do any
manufacturers supply them. Now, in this case, since most laptop
screens are at least 1280x768 pixels, I'm going to assume that ATSC
implies HDTV.


RobertVA January 4th 07 08:42 PM

Does anyone make a portable HDTV
 
NadCixelsyd wrote:
Sam Spade wrote:
A small set could have an ATCS tuner and not be an HDTV.


Mea culpa on that one. Yes, HTDV implies ATSC, I keep forgetting that
it's not the other way around.

As a side note: can an ATSC tuner fit in a laptop PC and/or do any
manufacturers supply them. Now, in this case, since most laptop
screens are at least 1280x768 pixels, I'm going to assume that ATSC
implies HDTV.

I've seen USB tuners that are about the size of most people's thumbs.
They look like a flash drive with a 75 ohm connector on the other end.
Didn't have ANY provision for digital reception (with or without a
converter) from a cable TV system though.

Alan F January 4th 07 08:45 PM

Does anyone make a portable HDTV
 
NadCixelsyd wrote:
Sam Spade wrote:

A small set could have an ATCS tuner and not be an HDTV.



Mea culpa on that one. Yes, HTDV implies ATSC, I keep forgetting that
it's not the other way around.

As a side note: can an ATSC tuner fit in a laptop PC and/or do any
manufacturers supply them. Now, in this case, since most laptop
screens are at least 1280x768 pixels, I'm going to assume that ATSC
implies HDTV.


No, ATSC is a digital broadcast standard which covers no less than 18
formats covering 480i SD, 480p, and HD 720p & 1080i. A digital broadcast
station can send out - and many do - a HD sub-channel and one or more SD
sub-channels. To receive broadcast HD over the air, you must have a ATSC
tuner (in the US to be clear), but ATSC does not = HD. Several of the
local digital stations that I get over the air have 4 SD sub-channels
and no HD - i network (formerly known as Pax) and a local independent
"MHz" station.

For example, you can have a SD TV with an ATSC tuner which will down
convert the resolution of the HD sub-channel and I expect we see a bunch
of these hitting the market very soon.

For PC and laptops, as I posted there are USB based external ATSC
tuners. I have seen one for sale at Best Buy for around $120, IIRC, but
I don't know how well it works. This is an area where research before
buying is a good idea, as some USB ATSC tuners are likely to work better
than others.

Alan F






NadCixelsyd January 4th 07 09:14 PM

Does anyone make a portable HDTV
 
Darn. Mea culpa again. That's twice in one thread. Ok, let me try a
third time: If I have a laptop with at least 1280x720 pixels for a
monitor, and .... Yeah, what you said.


Wes Newell January 4th 07 09:53 PM

Does anyone make a portable HDTV
 
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 07:26:25 -0800, NadCixelsyd wrote:

They make small-screen (6"-10") screen DVD players. Does anyone make
them with ATSC tuners built in?


While browsing the other day I came across one with a 7" screen IIRC. It
was pretty expensive and i don't recall if it also had a dvd player, but
it did have an ATSC tuner in it. No, I don't remember where it was, but I
probably found it through yahoo shopping searches for atsc something.

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Wes Newell January 4th 07 09:59 PM

Does anyone make a portable HDTV
 
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:48:30 -0800, NadCixelsyd wrote:


Sam Spade wrote:

A small set could have an ATCS tuner and not be an HDTV.


Mea culpa on that one. Yes, HTDV implies ATSC, I keep forgetting that
it's not the other way around.

As a side note: can an ATSC tuner fit in a laptop PC and/or do any
manufacturers supply them. Now, in this case, since most laptop
screens are at least 1280x768 pixels, I'm going to assume that ATSC
implies HDTV.


There are USB/Ethernet ATSC tuners that will work with a motebook PC.

Here's one.

http://www.directron.com/wintvhvr950.html

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[email protected] January 5th 07 03:31 AM

Does anyone make a portable HDTV
 
"NadCixelsyd" wrote (in part):

As a side note: can an ATSC tuner fit in a laptop PC and/or do any
manufacturers supply them. Now, in this case, since most laptop
screens are at least 1280x768 pixels, I'm going to assume that ATSC
implies HDTV.


That would most likely be on a PC (aka PCMCIA) Card. No reason they
couldn't and I'm sure they will, but I haven't seen one yet. There's
at least one USB tuner about the size of a flash drive, but the one I
looked at had poor reviews. I chose a larger unit, but still small
enough to stuff in a laptop bag. AutumnWave OnAir GT. Receives NTSC,
ATSC and clear QAM. Runs off USB power (no separate power supply).
Needs a reasonably fast CPU with DxVA support in video, or a very fast
one without DxVA. My 1.7 MHz laptop with DxVA is just fast enough for
full-screen display with not much else going on. Full-screen is
smooth, but windowed display shows motion artifacts. The software is
a work-in-progress, but usable now. I'm happy with it. And yes, the
result is HD if that's what's being received and the display has the
resolution to show it.

Add sufficient HDD storage and you've got yourself a portable HD DVR.



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