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R Sweeney December 27th 06 01:43 AM

anything decent in 40" panels
 
My brother-in-law wants a 40" flat panel display to hang on the wall.
He also wants to spend between $900-1200.

He asked me for advice and I was hard pressed to come up with a good
suggestion as 40" PDP panels are mostly low res and 40" LCD panels are
mostly overpriced.

Are there some good panels out there for around $1000?
He is not interested in a 37", wants 40".




R Sweeney December 27th 06 02:56 AM

anything decent in 40" panels
 

"JimK" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:43:51 -0500, "R Sweeney"
wrote:

My brother-in-law wants a 40" flat panel display to hang on the wall.
He also wants to spend between $900-1200.

He asked me for advice and I was hard pressed to come up with a good
suggestion as 40" PDP panels are mostly low res and 40" LCD panels are
mostly overpriced.

Are there some good panels out there for around $1000?
He is not interested in a 37", wants 40".



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Like I said, I consider 1024 horizonal lines pretty low res for a supposed
HDTV



Ericew December 27th 06 03:29 AM

anything decent in 40" panels
 

R Sweeney wrote:
My brother-in-law wants a 40" flat panel display to hang on the wall.
He also wants to spend between $900-1200.

He asked me for advice and I was hard pressed to come up with a good
suggestion as 40" PDP panels are mostly low res and 40" LCD panels are
mostly overpriced.

Are there some good panels out there for around $1000?
He is not interested in a 37", wants 40".


I love my Panny TH-42PX60U. Don't worry about the 1024 horizontal
resolution, as with the sub-pixel processing you can easily resolve all
of the horizontal resolution. It comes with 1080i de-interlacing and a
top notch community.

http://brontide.blogspot.com/2006/12...60u-great.html

You should also check the forums at AVSforum.com

-Eric
http://brontide.blogspot.com/


Matthew L. Martin December 27th 06 04:59 AM

anything decent in 40" panels
 
Ericew wrote:
R Sweeney wrote:
My brother-in-law wants a 40" flat panel display to hang on the wall.
He also wants to spend between $900-1200.

He asked me for advice and I was hard pressed to come up with a good
suggestion as 40" PDP panels are mostly low res and 40" LCD panels are
mostly overpriced.

Are there some good panels out there for around $1000?
He is not interested in a 37", wants 40".


I love my Panny TH-42PX60U. Don't worry about the 1024 horizontal
resolution, as with the sub-pixel processing you can easily resolve all
of the horizontal resolution. It comes with 1080i de-interlacing and a
top notch community.


Just how much of that kool-aid did you drink?

Matthew

--
I'm a contractor. If you want an opinion I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?

Ericew December 27th 06 05:10 AM

anything decent in 40" panels
 

Matthew L. Martin wrote:
Just how much of that kool-aid did you drink?

Matthew


Ok, I'll bite... What are you talking about?

-Eric


Ericew December 27th 06 05:17 AM

anything decent in 40" panels
 

Ericew wrote:
Matthew L. Martin wrote:
Just how much of that kool-aid did you drink?

Matthew


Ok, I'll bite... What are you talking about?

-Eric


Ahh, Matthew believes I am a ... as he would put it a "Plasma Fanboy".
Without, of course, realizing that I have used in the past 6 years,
CRT RP HDTV, CRT FP, DLP FP, LCD direct view, and finally a Plasma.

For the specifications given ( size and price ) the Panny is a perfect
fit.

-Eric


Matthew L. Martin December 27th 06 05:17 AM

anything decent in 40" panels
 
Ericew wrote:
Matthew L. Martin wrote:
Just how much of that kool-aid did you drink?

Matthew


Ok, I'll bite... What are you talking about?


Don't worry about the 1024 horizontal
resolution, as with the sub-pixel processing you can easily resolve all
of the horizontal resolution.


Think about it. How do you get 1920 pixels of information displayed in
1024 pixels?

Matthew

--
I'm a contractor. If you want an opinion I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?

Ericew December 27th 06 05:27 AM

anything decent in 40" panels
 
Matthew L. Martin wrote:
Think about it. How do you get 1920 pixels of information displayed in
1024 pixels?



Actually there are 3072 distinct picture elements on the horizontal.
While it is impossible to expect that you will actually get that big a
jump in resolution. Conservatively subpixel rendering should result in
a 1.5 multiplier over the native. That would mean 1536 would be a
conservative estimate of the horizontal resolving power of a 1024 pixel
wide plasma or lcd with subpixel processing ( of which the panny
plasmas do have ).

And without a computer input the likelihood of actually achieving 1920
on MPEG compressed material is almost impossible in real world
applications considering the bitrate limiting that goes on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subpixel_rendering

-Eric


Matthew L. Martin December 27th 06 01:04 PM

anything decent in 40" panels
 
Ericew wrote:
Matthew L. Martin wrote:
Think about it. How do you get 1920 pixels of information displayed
in 1024 pixels?



Actually there are 3072 distinct picture elements on the horizontal.


No, there are not. There are 1024, each consisting or one red, one blue
and one green element.

Since your premise is wrong the rest of what you posted is likely garbage.

While it is impossible to expect that you will actually get that big
a jump in resolution. Conservatively subpixel rendering should
result in a 1.5 multiplier over the native.


Please cite a peer reviewed paper that proves this silliness.

That would mean 1536 would be a conservative estimate of the
horizontal resolving power of a 1024 pixel wide plasma or lcd with
subpixel processing ( of which the panny plasmas do have ).


And just what does this "sub-pixel processing" do? Change the color of
the sub pixel as required?

And without a computer input the likelihood of actually achieving
1920 on MPEG compressed material is almost impossible in real world
applications considering the bitrate limiting that goes on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subpixel_rendering


Oh! Please!

Did you bother to *read* that page?

Subpixel rendering is a way to increase the apparent resolution of a
computer's liquid crystal display (LCD). It takes advantage of the
fact that each pixel on a color LCD is actually composed of
individual red, green, and blue sub-pixel stripes to anti-alias
black-and-white text with greater detail.


I guess that your HDTV viewing is limited to reading text in a non
native resolution. No where on that page is complex image resolution
addressed.

Keep drinking that kool-aid.

Matthew

--
I'm a contractor. If you want an opinion I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?

Ericew December 27th 06 03:11 PM

anything decent in 40" panels
 

Matthew L. Martin wrote:
....


Fine you can bring over your Sub-$1200 42" 1080p display over for head
to head viewing. Oh, that's right, they are not in that price range (
$1500 for the Westy ). The best you could hope for is 1366x768 LCD and
those have a whole host of problems of their own.

-Eric



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