I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

R Sweeney wrote:
"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message


The building I am living does not
allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck


Federal law prohibits building owners or homeowner associations from
preventing you from mounting a sat dish where no structural damage will
occur.

Check the FCC website for help. All you have to do is send them the name of
the offending party, their lawyers do the rest.


That is not what the FCC web site says.

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

"Dr. Personality" wrote in message
...
In article , Tim
Streater wrote:

Rabbit ears on the telly no good?

You still using a crystal set?

Forcing customers to pay $10/mo for a cable box, while not allowing the
use of compatible boxes offered by third parties, is a monopolistic
practice that, if challenged, likely wouldn't withstand FTC scrutiny,
much less that of the courts.

Snipe at this guy all you want to, and keep telling him he doesn't
really need cable, but the fact is that he's right.

As for me, I used a Rat Shack box to get basic cable on a '70s-era TV
until I eventually replaced the set. Everything worked fine, and
nobody at the two cable companies I dealt with back then ever had a
problem with me doing it. I saved $2/mo for ten or twelve years.

That's entirely different. TW is not saying he can't use a cable tuner box
and they're not allowed to say that. What they are saying is that they
won't authorize on their system a descrambler of questionable origin.

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

In article , Seth
wrote:

"Dr. Personality" wrote in message
...
In article , Tim
Streater wrote:

Rabbit ears on the telly no good?

You still using a crystal set?

Forcing customers to pay $10/mo for a cable box, while not allowing the
use of compatible boxes offered by third parties, is a monopolistic
practice that, if challenged, likely wouldn't withstand FTC scrutiny,
much less that of the courts.

Snipe at this guy all you want to, and keep telling him he doesn't
really need cable, but the fact is that he's right.

As for me, I used a Rat Shack box to get basic cable on a '70s-era TV
until I eventually replaced the set. Everything worked fine, and
nobody at the two cable companies I dealt with back then ever had a
problem with me doing it. I saved $2/mo for ten or twelve years.

That's entirely different. TW is not saying he can't use a cable tuner box
and they're not allowed to say that. What they are saying is that they
won't authorize on their system a descrambler of questionable origin.


Fine, then. I have no problem with the cable company refusing to
authorize an illegally gotten box, if that's what's going on here. If
this is a box that descrambles channels he's not paying for, the same
goes.

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

"Sam Spade" wrote in message
...
R Sweeney wrote:
"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message


The building I am living does not
allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck


Federal law prohibits building owners or homeowner associations from
preventing you from mounting a sat dish where no structural damage will
occur.

Check the FCC website for help. All you have to do is send them the name
of the offending party, their lawyers do the rest.
That is not what the FCC web site says.

It assumes you have an area controlled by you... a window, patio or balcony.

If you have an apartment without such an area or that area is not in a sat
view zone, you are doomed.

My war with Time Warner - latest update.
 

"zalek" wrote in message
ups.com
Seth wrote:
"zalek" wrote in message
ups.com...
Here are the latest updates of my attempts to force Time Warner
to send me a cable signal to a box I purchased not from them:

I called FCC and was told that Time Warner is breaking the FCC
rule and asked me to file a complain. I filed a complain and
today (it was faster then a speeding bullet!!!) I got a letter
from State of NY Department of Public Service telling me that
they "have escalated my concern to senior staff at the company".

I also sent an email to FCC asking them if Time Warner broke
the FCC rule. Today I received an email with the message:
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/New.../nrcb9009.html

Does anyone have an idea what does it mean?

In a nutshell... if you request a CableCARD for your 3rd party
produced CableCARD compatible device (e.g. TV with CableCARD
slot, Tivo Series3, etc...) they can't refuse you

and

They can't stop you from using an external cable tuner.

They still however, as I read the document provided, have to
authorize your privately purchased descrambler. No where in the
document do the words "decode", "authorize" or "descramble" even
exist.

The FCC has escalated a case to the NY Atty Gen office that does
not apply to you.

What is a difference between "external cable tuner" and
"descrambler"? To watch channel like CNN or Discovery that is not
transmit over the air - do I need "descrambler" or "cable tuner"?

Thanks,

Zalek

In Comcast land you would only need a TV or external tuner to receive
CNN as it is on channel 44 and The Discovery Channel is on 8.

--


Travis in Shoreline Washington

My war with Time Warner - latest update.
 

"Seth" wrote in message

"zalek" wrote in message
ups.com...

Seth wrote:
"zalek" wrote in message
ups.com...
Here are the latest updates of my attempts to force Time
Warner to send me a cable signal to a box I purchased not
from them: I called FCC and was told that Time Warner is
breaking the
FCC rule and asked me to file a complain. I filed a complain
and today (it was faster then a speeding bullet!!!) I got a
letter from State of NY Department of Public Service telling
me that they "have escalated my concern to senior staff at
the company". I also sent an email to FCC asking them if Time
Warner broke
the FCC rule. Today I received an email with the message:
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/New.../nrcb9009.html

Does anyone have an idea what does it mean?

In a nutshell... if you request a CableCARD for your 3rd party
produced CableCARD compatible device (e.g. TV with CableCARD
slot, Tivo Series3, etc...) they can't refuse you

and

They can't stop you from using an external cable tuner.

They still however, as I read the document provided, have to
authorize your
privately purchased descrambler. No where in the document do
the words "decode", "authorize" or "descramble" even exist.

The FCC has escalated a case to the NY Atty Gen office that
does not apply
to you.

What is a difference between "external cable tuner" and
"descrambler"? To watch channel like CNN or Discovery that is not
transmit over the air - do I need "descrambler" or "cable tuner"?

"external cable tuner" is what people needed to view "in the clear"
CaTV channels back in the day when many TVs weren't "cable-ready". The
TVs were designed for VHF channels 2-13 and UHF channels 14-83.
When people with those TVs went to cable they needed an external
cable tuner to put between their TV and cable line to get CaTV
channels above 13. Then came "cable-ready" TVs where you could
tell the TV if you were using CaTV or OTA.
A descrambler is just that. It has the necessary security gear
built in to authorize viewing of channels that weren't in the clear.

The FCC ruling that applies to descrambling equipment is CableCARD.
Not external descramblers.

An "external cable tuner" will allow you to view the exact same
channels that you can view on a cable ready TV (or VCR) by plugging
directly into the wall.

Back when this transition first happened the cable companies tried
to say you couldn't buy an "external cable tuner" but you had to
use theirs. Kind of like back in the day when Ma Bell said you
couldn't buy your own telephone, you had to use theirs.

The "Cable Company" is under no obligation to run coax to your
house/apartment/condo or tent.

--


Travis in Shoreline Washington

My war with Time Warner - latest update.
 

In article [email protected], Travis M.
wrote:

The "Cable Company" is under no obligation to run coax to your
house/apartment/condo or tent.

Why would you say that without knowing the terms of its franchise? It
might have to do exactly that, if requested.

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

In article ,
"Dr. Personality" wrote:

In article , Tim
Streater wrote:

Rabbit ears on the telly no good?

You still using a crystal set?

No, Sonny, we are in the digital era here. Aerial on the roof pointed at
the transmitter and a digital box which gives me about 40 channels with
DVD quality and, in certain cases, interaction (e.g. for certain sports
events you can choose which camera you get and which commentators). The
Freeview (digital) box is a commodity item for about £40. I could have
got Sky but I don't see why I should pay rentals for it given they have
commercials. And its too American anyway.

-- tim

My war with Time Warner - latest update.
 

"Travis M." wrote in message
news:[email protected]

The "Cable Company" is under no obligation to run coax to your
house/apartment/condo or tent.

Depends on where you live. Here in my town they are.

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

In article , Tim
Streater wrote:

In article ,
"Dr. Personality" wrote:

In article , Tim
Streater wrote:

Rabbit ears on the telly no good?

You still using a crystal set?

No, Sonny, we are in the digital era here. Aerial on the roof pointed at
the transmitter and a digital box which gives me about 40 channels with
DVD quality and, in certain cases, interaction (e.g. for certain sports
events you can choose which camera you get and which commentators). The
Freeview (digital) box is a commodity item for about £40. I could have
got Sky but I don't see why I should pay rentals for it given they have
commercials. And its too American anyway.


How lucky for you. Not all of us live in a bog with clear
line-of-sight to a transmitter mounted on the roof of the cheesemaker's
barn.