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David Moran December 14th 06 02:37 PM

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

"zalek" wrote in message
ups.com...

David Moran wrote:
"zalek" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
humanly possible:

I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.

I notified my Congress/Senat representative

I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC

I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules

I cried on my wife's shoulder...

Anything else can I do?

Zalek


Cable TV is a luxury, not a right. If you don't want to pay their price,
DON'T GET CABLE! Plain and simple.

Dave


Dude,

I live in apartment building where my only choice is cable TV or no TV
- plan and simple. If I had a choice to switch to a satellite I
wouldn't bitch about my problem.

Zalek


I live in an apartment too and I pay $10/month for my box. I don't have to,
but I choose to because I want digital cable. If you don't want to pay for a
box, don't get cable. What's so hard about that? Nobody's forcing you to get
cable.

Dave



David Moran December 14th 06 02:58 PM

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

"zalek" wrote in message
ups.com...

David Moran wrote:
"zalek" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
humanly possible:

I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.

I notified my Congress/Senat representative

I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC

I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules

I cried on my wife's shoulder...

Anything else can I do?

Zalek


Cable TV is a luxury, not a right. If you don't want to pay their price,
DON'T GET CABLE! Plain and simple.

Dave


Dude,

I live in apartment building where my only choice is cable TV or no TV
- plan and simple. If I had a choice to switch to a satellite I
wouldn't bitch about my problem.

Zalek


If I were you, this would be the least of my concerns. My biggest concern
would be having a warrant out for my arrest for possession of stolen
property. I'll bet eventually, you will get caught. Then, you'll spend a
WHOLE LOT more than what it'd cost to rent a box. I have yet to meet someone
who doesn't pay to rent a box. Did you let the people you contacted know
that the box was from Time Warner? If so, how do you know that the
authorities haven't already been alerted? Besides, there are a lot more
important things in life than cable.

Dave



JEDIDIAH December 14th 06 05:04 PM

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 
On 2006-12-14, zalek wrote:

David Moran wrote:
"zalek" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
humanly possible:

I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.

I notified my Congress/Senat representative

I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC

I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules

I cried on my wife's shoulder...

Anything else can I do?

Zalek


Cable TV is a luxury, not a right. If you don't want to pay their price,


No. They are a natural monopoly, or use/abuse a public good. So
they need to be put under the sort of regulation that a natural market
can't provide since there isn't one.

DON'T GET CABLE! Plain and simple.


Abusive business practices shouldn't be tolerated simply because
it is not a matter of life and limb.


Dave


Dude,

I live in apartment building where my only choice is cable TV or no TV
- plan and simple. If I had a choice to switch to a satellite I
wouldn't bitch about my problem.


Regardless, American companies should not be able to engage
in cartel forming type of behaivor. Closed sorts of "members only"
tech and specifications are just that sort of BS.

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JEDIDIAH December 14th 06 05:05 PM

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 
On 2006-12-14, David Moran wrote:

"zalek" wrote in message
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David Moran wrote:
"zalek" wrote in message
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[deletia]
I live in apartment building where my only choice is cable TV or no TV
- plan and simple. If I had a choice to switch to a satellite I
wouldn't bitch about my problem.

Zalek


If I were you, this would be the least of my concerns. My biggest concern
would be having a warrant out for my arrest for possession of stolen
property. I'll bet eventually, you will get caught. Then, you'll spend a


You are a moron and a dickhead.

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David Moran December 14th 06 05:26 PM

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

"JEDIDIAH" wrote in message
...
On 2006-12-14, David Moran wrote:

"zalek" wrote in message
ups.com...

David Moran wrote:
"zalek" wrote in message
oups.com...

[deletia]
I live in apartment building where my only choice is cable TV or no TV
- plan and simple. If I had a choice to switch to a satellite I
wouldn't bitch about my problem.

Zalek


If I were you, this would be the least of my concerns. My biggest concern
would be having a warrant out for my arrest for possession of stolen
property. I'll bet eventually, you will get caught. Then, you'll spend a


You are a moron and a dickhead.

[deletia]


Look, no one NEEDS cable. It is not needed like, say electricity or gas, and
even those not everyone has. Do what you want, but is it worth the
possibility of being convicted of a crime to save a few bucks? As for the
name calling, mature adults should not have to result to such behavior.

Dave



Tim Streater December 14th 06 06:27 PM

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 
In article ,
JEDIDIAH wrote:

On 2006-12-14, zalek wrote:

David Moran wrote:
"zalek" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
humanly possible:

I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.

I notified my Congress/Senat representative

I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC

I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules

I cried on my wife's shoulder...

Anything else can I do?

Zalek


Cable TV is a luxury, not a right. If you don't want to pay their price,


No. They are a natural monopoly, or use/abuse a public good. So
they need to be put under the sort of regulation that a natural market
can't provide since there isn't one.

DON'T GET CABLE! Plain and simple.


Abusive business practices shouldn't be tolerated simply because
it is not a matter of life and limb.


Dave


Dude,

I live in apartment building where my only choice is cable TV or no TV
- plan and simple. If I had a choice to switch to a satellite I
wouldn't bitch about my problem.


Rabbit ears on the telly no good?

-- tim

Dr. Personality December 14th 06 07:55 PM

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 
In article , Tim
Streater wrote:

Rabbit ears on the telly no good?


You still using a crystal set?

Forcing customers to pay $10/mo for a cable box, while not allowing the
use of compatible boxes offered by third parties, is a monopolistic
practice that, if challenged, likely wouldn't withstand FTC scrutiny,
much less that of the courts.

Snipe at this guy all you want to, and keep telling him he doesn't
really need cable, but the fact is that he's right.

As for me, I used a Rat Shack box to get basic cable on a '70s-era TV
until I eventually replaced the set. Everything worked fine, and
nobody at the two cable companies I dealt with back then ever had a
problem with me doing it. I saved $2/mo for ten or twelve years.

David Moran December 14th 06 09:21 PM

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

"Dr. Personality" wrote in message
...
In article , Tim
Streater wrote:

Rabbit ears on the telly no good?


You still using a crystal set?

Forcing customers to pay $10/mo for a cable box, while not allowing the
use of compatible boxes offered by third parties, is a monopolistic
practice that, if challenged, likely wouldn't withstand FTC scrutiny,
much less that of the courts.

Snipe at this guy all you want to, and keep telling him he doesn't
really need cable, but the fact is that he's right.

As for me, I used a Rat Shack box to get basic cable on a '70s-era TV
until I eventually replaced the set. Everything worked fine, and
nobody at the two cable companies I dealt with back then ever had a
problem with me doing it. I saved $2/mo for ten or twelve years.


It's not like anyone is forcing you to rent a box; it's a choice. I could
get by without a box if I went back to basic cable, but I choose to get
digital cable and so I need the box. I've never had a problem renting a box,
because I knew I'd need it if I decided to go digital.

Dave



Dr. Personality December 14th 06 10:08 PM

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 
In article , David Moran
wrote:

"Dr. Personality" wrote in message
...
In article , Tim
Streater wrote:

Rabbit ears on the telly no good?


You still using a crystal set?

Forcing customers to pay $10/mo for a cable box, while not allowing the
use of compatible boxes offered by third parties, is a monopolistic
practice that, if challenged, likely wouldn't withstand FTC scrutiny,
much less that of the courts.

Snipe at this guy all you want to, and keep telling him he doesn't
really need cable, but the fact is that he's right.

As for me, I used a Rat Shack box to get basic cable on a '70s-era TV
until I eventually replaced the set. Everything worked fine, and
nobody at the two cable companies I dealt with back then ever had a
problem with me doing it. I saved $2/mo for ten or twelve years.


It's not like anyone is forcing you to rent a box; it's a choice. I could
get by without a box if I went back to basic cable, but I choose to get
digital cable and so I need the box. I've never had a problem renting a box,
because I knew I'd need it if I decided to go digital.



The thing is that the choice is not about whether to rent a box; the
choice is about getting service. The box is incidental to that choice.
Clearly, the cable company wants you to rent its box. It's free to
advertise that to you, or cajole you into it, or offer a box with cool
features, package the box at a discount, or whatever. What it can't
reasonably do is designate all other boxes as incompatible, regardless
of whether they are or not, and force you to rent its box. Hobson's
choice is not really any choice at all.

Baked December 14th 06 11:04 PM

My war with Time Warner - latest update.
 
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:16:29 -0800, Justice Gustine
wrote:

They will find that the converter you bought is stolen property and
file charges against you.


Whatta dumbass.


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